In to the unknown
Oct 20th 2003 | 6:08 am
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Welcome to the site!
It is difficult to get your point across sometimes- after all we can only read what is written- that is the main problem with this site!!
Hope this doesn't stop you posting though.
It is difficult to get your point across sometimes- after all we can only read what is written- that is the main problem with this site!!
Hope this doesn't stop you posting though.
Oct 20th 2003 | 6:18 am
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Re: In to the unknown
Originally posted by Olibeneli
I am so glad I found this website.
What a great bunch of people use this to share their thoughts and experiences to help everyone.
Just about to start the visa application (points no problem based on my wife as a midwife, etc) and as I described elsewhere I am very nervous about finding a decent paid job as a finance systems specialist compared to what I get paid here in the UK. Yes it will be lower, but I want my oz dollars to be a decent wage to reflect my skills and experience.......if all that fails perhaps I become a house husband !!!
I think we will have about £150,000 profit on our house so what does that buy house wise in Oz (in Perth, Melbourne and Sydney suburbs)..........I am planning on 5 beds and a pool minimum!
Main reason for going is for our 3 young boys (be interested to stike up a chat with "tiredwithtwins"..........I know what you mean)
but it is a big worry that me as an accountant will earn the same as a bricklayer..........apologies all bricklayers, but it did take 6 years to qualify - how long does it take as a brickie ?
What professions are well paid in Oz.......?.........and what does everyone think about this brain drain I here about on the website ?.....are young college leavers abandoning Oz to seek fame & fortune elsewhere because their own country doesn't offer enough ?........what a real shame........
Also, read on here that estate agents out in Oz "coin it in"......so is there opportunity in buy to let........what sort of market is there for this........lots of students for example ?
Have to say that the other main reasons for leaving the UK are:
diabolocal state of everything - NHS, traffic, public transport, weather, asylum seekers, illegal immigrants, drugs, etc etc
expensive housing..........how our kids could afford a house when they get to 20 god only knows.........who wants to borrow 5 times their salary over 30 years ????
But - as people have been very honest it's not all rosy in Oz.....but I guess on balance "better" sums it up.....and for me not raining so much just swings it....talking of which, how are the golf courses in OZ and in perth/melbourne in particular ?
How much does 18 holes cost and is there a decent choice ?
PS.......do all the expats that have made the plunge meet up out there in Oz??.....sounds like everyone would have agreat time if they did.
I am so glad I found this website.
What a great bunch of people use this to share their thoughts and experiences to help everyone.
Just about to start the visa application (points no problem based on my wife as a midwife, etc) and as I described elsewhere I am very nervous about finding a decent paid job as a finance systems specialist compared to what I get paid here in the UK. Yes it will be lower, but I want my oz dollars to be a decent wage to reflect my skills and experience.......if all that fails perhaps I become a house husband !!!
I think we will have about £150,000 profit on our house so what does that buy house wise in Oz (in Perth, Melbourne and Sydney suburbs)..........I am planning on 5 beds and a pool minimum!
Main reason for going is for our 3 young boys (be interested to stike up a chat with "tiredwithtwins"..........I know what you mean)
but it is a big worry that me as an accountant will earn the same as a bricklayer..........apologies all bricklayers, but it did take 6 years to qualify - how long does it take as a brickie ?
What professions are well paid in Oz.......?.........and what does everyone think about this brain drain I here about on the website ?.....are young college leavers abandoning Oz to seek fame & fortune elsewhere because their own country doesn't offer enough ?........what a real shame........
Also, read on here that estate agents out in Oz "coin it in"......so is there opportunity in buy to let........what sort of market is there for this........lots of students for example ?
Have to say that the other main reasons for leaving the UK are:
diabolocal state of everything - NHS, traffic, public transport, weather, asylum seekers, illegal immigrants, drugs, etc etc
expensive housing..........how our kids could afford a house when they get to 20 god only knows.........who wants to borrow 5 times their salary over 30 years ????
But - as people have been very honest it's not all rosy in Oz.....but I guess on balance "better" sums it up.....and for me not raining so much just swings it....talking of which, how are the golf courses in OZ and in perth/melbourne in particular ?
How much does 18 holes cost and is there a decent choice ?
PS.......do all the expats that have made the plunge meet up out there in Oz??.....sounds like everyone would have agreat time if they did.
as you have apologised though we wont feed you to pb
welcome to the site and good luck with the move.
Oct 20th 2003 | 8:47 am
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Back to my questions.....
So anyway........now we have all got over things, can anyone advise what jobs do pay well in Oz......?
So far I know that bricklayers and estate agents are jobs that pay well...........anything else ?
Seems weird that a "modern" country like Oz doesn't appear to reward those professions that actually need tertiary education when all the visa questions are asking for little else......
Of course...those jobs that demand working in hostile environments should be paid well..........brickies in the sun and miners 1000ft below the surface.........plus accountants working for ba**ard employers that want complex financial systems put in for nowt in 10 minutes.
Anyone out there comment on the brain drain ?
why do all the young Ozzies leave to take bar jobs in London ?...to save some £££'s to convert to lotsa AS$$$'s ???
Why no opportunities for them at home ???
Cheers all.
So far I know that bricklayers and estate agents are jobs that pay well...........anything else ?
Seems weird that a "modern" country like Oz doesn't appear to reward those professions that actually need tertiary education when all the visa questions are asking for little else......
Of course...those jobs that demand working in hostile environments should be paid well..........brickies in the sun and miners 1000ft below the surface.........plus accountants working for ba**ard employers that want complex financial systems put in for nowt in 10 minutes.
Anyone out there comment on the brain drain ?
why do all the young Ozzies leave to take bar jobs in London ?...to save some £££'s to convert to lotsa AS$$$'s ???
Why no opportunities for them at home ???
Cheers all.
Oct 20th 2003 | 9:47 am
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Re: Back to my questions.....
Originally posted by Olibeneli
So anyway........now we have all got over things, can anyone advise what jobs do pay well in Oz.....
Anyone out there comment on the brain drain ?
why do all the young Ozzies leave to take bar jobs in London ?...to save some £££'s to convert to lotsa AS$$$'s ???
Why no opportunities for them at home ???
Cheers all.
So anyway........now we have all got over things, can anyone advise what jobs do pay well in Oz.....
Anyone out there comment on the brain drain ?
why do all the young Ozzies leave to take bar jobs in London ?...to save some £££'s to convert to lotsa AS$$$'s ???
Why no opportunities for them at home ???
Cheers all.
hope my last posting didn't sound to harsh it wasn't meant to be
welcome into the fold anyhows
My cousin and a load of his mates went to Perth about 10 years ago spent some time doing various jobs,mostly scaffolding stayed for two years as an illegal after his visa ran out
Came back to U.K became double glazing millionaire!! so the grass is not always greener.
I think the younger ones are probably students doing the Europe
thing,only if they can claim any british background such as grandparents,they can stay longer and work more compared to British students doing the Aus thing.Pure speculation of course on my side so I'm sure I'll be put right.I'm starting to ramble again so I'll leave it there(my own brain drain due to immo soono)
Oct 20th 2003 | 9:47 am
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Re: Back to my questions.....
Originally posted by Olibeneli
So anyway........now we have all got over things, can anyone advise what jobs do pay well in Oz.....
Anyone out there comment on the brain drain ?
why do all the young Ozzies leave to take bar jobs in London ?...to save some £££'s to convert to lotsa AS$$$'s ???
Why no opportunities for them at home ???
Cheers all.
So anyway........now we have all got over things, can anyone advise what jobs do pay well in Oz.....
Anyone out there comment on the brain drain ?
why do all the young Ozzies leave to take bar jobs in London ?...to save some £££'s to convert to lotsa AS$$$'s ???
Why no opportunities for them at home ???
Cheers all.
hope my last posting didn't sound to harsh it wasn't meant to be
welcome into the fold anyhows My cousin and a load of his mates went to Perth about 10 years ago spent some time doing various jobs,mostly scaffolding stayed for two years as an illegal after his visa ran out
Came back to U.K became double glazing millionaire!! so the grass is not always greener. I think the younger ones are probably students doing the Europe
thing,only if they can claim any british background such as grandparents,they can stay longer and work more compared to British students doing the Aus thing.Pure speculation of course on my side so I'm sure I'll be put right.I'm starting to ramble again so I'll leave it there(my own brain drain due to immo soono)
Oct 20th 2003 | 10:01 am
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Re: Back to my questions.....
Originally posted by Olibeneli
can anyone advise what jobs do pay well in Oz......?
can anyone advise what jobs do pay well in Oz......?
Jobs in Oz - have you tried Jobserve Oz? hang on, let me check:
Ah, they've changed their URL, cheeky beggars!
http://www.jobserve.com.au
You'll find 500 accountancy jobs there at the mo', along with about a 1000 other jobs in other categories. Good luck!
Oct 20th 2003 | 10:34 am
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A lot of it is to do with supply and demand - the market is over-saturated in places with more people than jobs - hence for some vocations it's an employer's market. Certain sectors of IT are a prime example of this, competition is hot, and salaries aren't what they were 2 years ago.
Look in the yellow pages - there are hundreds of listings for accountants. On the other hand trades people are in short supply. (A friend on the Sunshine Coast couldn't get a builder for months and months recently.)
Why should those who have been to university be rewarded more than those who haven't? Many people aren't academically minded but that doesn't mean they are entitled to earn less than those who are!! At the end of the day, it's about having marketables skills that are in demand, and you don't need a scroll of papyrus to prove yourself or to make a living.
Re house prices - I think you will be hard-pushed to find a 5 bed property (excl pool) within a 35km radius of Melbourne for the money you quoted (and heading east or south east, I'd say you need to go even further out). Once you factor in stamp duty (6%) you would have about $345k and you would need to go pretty far out of the city to get a sizeable property at that price. On the other hand, if you're a builder you could build your own !!
As for the pool? Well, we are in stage 2 water restrictions in Melbourne (have been on water restrictions all through the winter, since last summer, reservoirs are at just over 40% capacity) and filling a pool is an absolute no-no unless you have a special exemption certificate from the council.
Good luck with the visa.
Look in the yellow pages - there are hundreds of listings for accountants. On the other hand trades people are in short supply. (A friend on the Sunshine Coast couldn't get a builder for months and months recently.)
Why should those who have been to university be rewarded more than those who haven't? Many people aren't academically minded but that doesn't mean they are entitled to earn less than those who are!! At the end of the day, it's about having marketables skills that are in demand, and you don't need a scroll of papyrus to prove yourself or to make a living.
Re house prices - I think you will be hard-pushed to find a 5 bed property (excl pool) within a 35km radius of Melbourne for the money you quoted (and heading east or south east, I'd say you need to go even further out). Once you factor in stamp duty (6%) you would have about $345k and you would need to go pretty far out of the city to get a sizeable property at that price. On the other hand, if you're a builder you could build your own
!!As for the pool? Well, we are in stage 2 water restrictions in Melbourne (have been on water restrictions all through the winter, since last summer, reservoirs are at just over 40% capacity) and filling a pool is an absolute no-no unless you have a special exemption certificate from the council.
Good luck with the visa.
Oct 20th 2003 | 10:46 am
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Originally posted by HiddenPaw
On the other hand trades people are in short supply. (A friend on the Sunshine Coast couldn't get a builder for months and months recently.)
On the other hand trades people are in short supply. (A friend on the Sunshine Coast couldn't get a builder for months and months recently.)
Oct 20th 2003 | 11:40 am
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hi mr olibeneli,
thank you for the apology -
if you front load your visa on your wife's qualifications I think you will find your application whizzes through in a matter of weeks - just recently several nurses have got their visa's through in 4 weeks or so - about the only plus to being a nurse it seems!!
I too am a nurse (who, incidentally has spent the last 7 years enrolled at uni doing various courses, despite qualifying in 1990 - another downside to the job, you never stop learning) and going on the jobs on sites such as ncah.com your wife will be able to pick and choose exactly what she wants - perhaps you should take up the opportunity to be a house husband!!
good luck with your chosen path,
Sue
ps, anyone need a plasterer - excellent references!
thank you for the apology -
if you front load your visa on your wife's qualifications I think you will find your application whizzes through in a matter of weeks - just recently several nurses have got their visa's through in 4 weeks or so - about the only plus to being a nurse it seems!!
I too am a nurse (who, incidentally has spent the last 7 years enrolled at uni doing various courses, despite qualifying in 1990 - another downside to the job, you never stop learning) and going on the jobs on sites such as ncah.com your wife will be able to pick and choose exactly what she wants - perhaps you should take up the opportunity to be a house husband!!
good luck with your chosen path,
Sue
ps, anyone need a plasterer - excellent references!
Oct 20th 2003 | 11:43 am
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Originally posted by tiredwithtwins
hi mr olibeneli,
thank you for the apology -
if you front load your visa on your wife's qualifications I think you will find your application whizzes through in a matter of weeks - just recently several nurses have got their visa's through in 4 weeks or so - about the only plus to being a nurse it seems!!
I too am a nurse (who, incidentally has spent the last 7 years enrolled at uni doing various courses, despite qualifying in 1990 - another downside to the job, you never stop learning) and going on the jobs on sites such as ncah.com your wife will be able to pick and choose exactly what she wants - perhaps you should take up the opportunity to be a house husband!!
good luck with your chosen path,
Sue
Excuse me for being dim...but what does "front loading" mean?
ps, anyone need a plasterer - excellent references!
hi mr olibeneli,
thank you for the apology -
if you front load your visa on your wife's qualifications I think you will find your application whizzes through in a matter of weeks - just recently several nurses have got their visa's through in 4 weeks or so - about the only plus to being a nurse it seems!!
I too am a nurse (who, incidentally has spent the last 7 years enrolled at uni doing various courses, despite qualifying in 1990 - another downside to the job, you never stop learning) and going on the jobs on sites such as ncah.com your wife will be able to pick and choose exactly what she wants - perhaps you should take up the opportunity to be a house husband!!
good luck with your chosen path,
Sue
Excuse me for being dim...but what does "front loading" mean?
ps, anyone need a plasterer - excellent references!
Oct 20th 2003 | 12:00 pm
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Originally posted by podgypossum
hi podgy possum!!!
front loading is when you submit your visa application along with the medicals and police checks and any other bits you may have to submit. It can be a bit risky as the meds and pc's are only valid for a year (correct me if Im wrong someone), so if your application is likely to take ages, as some do, there is a risk you will only have a very short time once your visa is granted in which to enter australia to validate your visa. if your app takes longer than a year then you may have to resubmit the meds and pc's. nurses are usually fast-tracked so its a pretty safe gamble to do this, but there may come a time when nurses arent on the modl and therefore will take as long as others.
sue
