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alibaba1977 Jul 23rd 2010 10:06 am

The true picture
 
Let me start by saying hello to everyone ,now let me bore you with probably something that's been asked a million times on here ,i have been thinking of moving to Australia from Scotland .just now its just that thinking, my partner is a plasterer and has been doing his job for 18 years i have filled in a couple of those online visa forms i know they are just a rough guide to what your score will be but we scored 120 i,m all for trying for a visa if we get it selling our house and using that money to move ,live of ,and rent :thumbsup:thats me!! my hubby likes the idea but is far more cautious his main worry is finding work as a plasterer so my question to the good people on here is is there alot of work for plasterers and what sort of weekly wage can he expect to earn would you recommend the move and where :wub:sorry alot of questions but i would be grateful for some answers xx

mark1963 Jul 23rd 2010 10:16 am

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Hi Ali,

Outside Rendering is much more in demand in Oz than the UK, inside plastering is not so common especially on new builds.(Generally speaking)

There is always heaps of work in Sydney for plasterers, as there are a lot of traditional built propeties., I know a few plasteres in Sydney, and they have never been short of work.
Wages.....Not sure but it will be in the reigion of $200-$300 per day...most trades earn good money and there is very little down time...as the weather is much better.

Hows that for starters ??
Cheers,
Mark

alibaba1977 Jul 23rd 2010 10:24 am

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Originally Posted by mark1963 (Post 8723987)
Hi Ali,

Outside Rendering is much more in demand in Oz than the UK, inside plastering is not so common especially on new builds.(Generally speaking)

There is always heaps of work in Sydney for plasterers, as there are a lot of traditional built propeties., I know a few plasteres in Sydney, and they have never been short of work.
Wages.....Not sure but it will be in the reigion of $200-$300 per day...most trades earn good money and there is very little down time...as the weather is much better.

Hows that for starters ??
Cheers,
Mark

fantastic me and the kids really do have our hearts set on the idea which i want to make reality its just getting him to relax a little i understand the last thing he wants is to move to the other side of the world only for us to struggle to find work thank you xx

iamthecreaturefromuranus Jul 23rd 2010 10:32 am

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Originally Posted by alibaba1977 (Post 8723997)
fantastic me and the kids really do have our hearts set on the idea which i want to make reality its just getting him to relax a little i understand the last thing he wants is to move to the other side of the world only for us to struggle to find work thank you xx

Well it might sound great but $300 a day, five days a week, 52 weeks a year comes out at $78,000. That will look great from the UK but its NOT massive wages for Sydney. It's OK, but don't expect it to be easy on that money.

What I mean is that if you are sitting in the UK and someone says you can earn $80k a year, you plug that into www.xe.com and it comes out and says thats over 46 thousand pounds a year.... and you go whoa, that's bloody good money... and in the UK it most certainly is... but that $80k a year here in Australia will NOT buy you the same lifestyle that 46 grand a year in the UK would.

ABCDiamond Jul 23rd 2010 1:14 pm

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Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus (Post 8724010)
but that $80k a year here in Australia will NOT buy you the same lifestyle that 46 grand a year in the UK would.

£46,000 is about 1.67 x the median UK wage.
So for comparision: 1.67 x the Australian Median wage is about $100,000

Buzzy--Bee Jul 23rd 2010 5:12 pm

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Originally Posted by alibaba1977 (Post 8723974)
Let me start by saying hello to everyone ,now let me bore you with probably something that's been asked a million times on here ,i have been thinking of moving to Australia from Scotland .just now its just that thinking, my partner is a plasterer and has been doing his job for 18 years i have filled in a couple of those online visa forms i know they are just a rough guide to what your score will be but we scored 120 i,m all for trying for a visa if we get it selling our house and using that money to move ,live of ,and rent :thumbsup:thats me!! my hubby likes the idea but is far more cautious his main worry is finding work as a plasterer so my question to the good people on here is is there alot of work for plasterers and what sort of weekly wage can he expect to earn would you recommend the move and where :wub:sorry alot of questions but i would be grateful for some answers xx

Can I suggest you PM member "Robert Cowan" who emigrated 4 years ago and is a plasterer in Melbourne. He will give you the good news that it's a very different trade here to what it is in the UK.

BB

upyerfud Jul 25th 2010 12:11 am

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Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus (Post 8724010)
Well it might sound great but $300 a day, five days a week, 52 weeks a year comes out at $78,000. That will look great from the UK but its NOT massive wages for Sydney. It's OK, but don't expect it to be easy on that money.

What I mean is that if you are sitting in the UK and someone says you can earn $80k a year, you plug that into www.xe.com and it comes out and says thats over 46 thousand pounds a year.... and you go whoa, that's bloody good money... and in the UK it most certainly is... but that $80k a year here in Australia will NOT buy you the same lifestyle that 46 grand a year in the UK would.

Absolutely correct, $78K wage in Sydney/Perth/Melboune is nowhere near enough for comfortable lifestyle unless partner is working full time as well. If you are doing OK in UK its a no brainer at the moment. And forget about better lifestyle, it doesn't happen for tradies. Beaches are really unimportant when you can't pay the mortgage.
Just my opinion, leaving a secure job in UK to come here without at least equivelant paying one lined up nowadays is financial illiteracy and stupidity.

Weebie Jul 25th 2010 5:08 am

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I know people who wouldn't even get out of bed for that kind of money. People earn $150 a day working at McDonalds. It's not a bad wage though in general but You would need your partner to work as well or after tax your looking at a dangerous outer suburb for rent and little money left over for anything but it's doable

asprilla Jul 25th 2010 10:43 am

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Originally Posted by mark1963 (Post 8723987)
Not sure but it will be in the reigion of $200-$300 per day...

I reckon $250 australian dollars has about the same purchasing power as GBP100 in Sydney.

Buzzy--Bee Jul 25th 2010 10:47 am

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Originally Posted by asprilla (Post 8727801)
I reckon $250 australian dollars has about the same purchasing power as GBP100 in Sydney.

I reckon in Melbourne that would be right too. And that would apply to earnings too. So for every £10,000 you earn in the UK, you should be looking for an income of $25,000 here. Otherwise you will not have as much spending power from your income.

BB

alibaba1977 Jul 27th 2010 4:54 am

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Originally Posted by Buzzy--Bee (Post 8727807)
I reckon in Melbourne that would be right too. And that would apply to earnings too. So for every £10,000 you earn in the UK, you should be looking for an income of $25,000 here. Otherwise you will not have as much spending power from your income.

BB

cheers BB i have been told to stop ranting on by my other half he has two cousins in melbourn one in a bit called mooroolbark[ i think its called ]who moved from our town a few years ago he is a carpenter so we are waiting to get his email addy and will contact him and see how he compares life there to life here once again thanks to everyone

stevie87db Jul 27th 2010 9:18 am

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Originally Posted by alibaba1977 (Post 8732388)
cheers BB i have been told to stop ranting on by my other half he has two cousins in melbourn one in a bit called mooroolbark[ i think its called ]who moved from our town a few years ago he is a carpenter so we are waiting to get his email addy and will contact him and see how he compares life there to life here once again thanks to everyone

Hi I AM IN THE SAME POSITION 2 ALSO FROM SCOTLAND EXCEPT I AM A JOINER/CARPENTER AND I HAVE MY HEART SET ON A MOVE AS WELL! I ALSO AM HAVING TROUBLE FINDING INFORMATION ON HOW IN DEMAND MY JOB IS TO. AS FOR THE COMMENT PLACED EARLIER ABOUT IF YOUR JOB IS SAFE IN THE UK LOL WHAT A JOKE THERE IS NO WORK HERE SO MUCH FOR THE ECONOMY GETTING BETTER BRITAIN IS REALLY REALLY BAD AT THE MOMENT. SORRY NO DISRESPECT TO YOUR COMMENT ITS JUST THAT IT IS REALLY SERIOUSLY BAD.. I NO HUNDREDS OF TRADESMEN THAT HAVE BEEN SAT IN THERE HOUSE FOR THE LAST YEAR BEING GOOD HOUSE HUSBANDS LOL.

Bermudashorts Jul 27th 2010 9:23 am

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Originally Posted by stevie87db (Post 8732970)
Hi I AM IN THE SAME POSITION 2 ALSO FROM SCOTLAND EXCEPT I AM A JOINER/CARPENTER AND I HAVE MY HEART SET ON A MOVE AS WELL! I ALSO AM HAVING TROUBLE FINDING INFORMATION ON HOW IN DEMAND MY JOB IS TO. AS FOR THE COMMENT PLACED EARLIER ABOUT IF YOUR JOB IS SAFE IN THE UK LOL WHAT A JOKE THERE IS NO WORK HERE SO MUCH FOR THE ECONOMY GETTING BETTER BRITAIN IS REALLY REALLY BAD AT THE MOMENT. SORRY NO DISRESPECT TO YOUR COMMENT ITS JUST THAT IT IS REALLY SERIOUSLY BAD.. I NO HUNDREDS OF TRADESMEN THAT HAVE BEEN SAT IN THERE HOUSE FOR THE LAST YEAR BEING GOOD HOUSE HUSBANDS LOL.

Blimey, I couldn't get a tradesperson in UK for love nor money quite recently, all booked out solid for weeks.

By the way, your caps lock key apears to be stuck in the on position. ;)

stevie87db Jul 27th 2010 10:50 am

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Originally Posted by Bermudashorts (Post 8732984)
Blimey, I couldn't get a tradesperson in UK for love nor money quite recently, all booked out solid for weeks.

By the way, your caps lock key apears to be stuck in the on position. ;)

I know just couldn't be bothered switching them off lol. It must have been the only place in Britain then. I am not exaggerating when I said. You will have to let me no where you where!!

alibaba1977 Jul 27th 2010 11:29 am

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Originally Posted by stevie87db (Post 8733145)
I know just couldn't be bothered switching them off lol. It must have been the only place in Britain then. I am not exaggerating when I said. You will have to let me no where you where!!

hey your talking the truth i know firms who had 30-40 lads working for them now down to 3 and if this government gets its way it will get worse if all the council refurbs are cut and new houses stop getting built


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