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downunderpom Feb 26th 2004 9:19 am


Originally posted by bondipom
Oi nout wrong with muppets.

Paying good money for quality workmanship is worth it as the final result is superior. Housing sticks around much longer than we do and a quality job is bequeathing a legacy to the nation. It is ashame town planners do not think the same.
Okay, so Animal IS my favourite! :D

Agree with you about the rest, too. Pay peanuts, get a monkey. Quality comes with a price tag, but in the long run is far cheaper than having to get a bodge job sorted out.

paulf Feb 26th 2004 7:07 pm


Originally posted by Goodpubmisser
I have actually found that if you get to know who are the good handymen in your local area, they do as good a job as the tradesmen, charge less and are more prone to turn up on time.

For example I got Handymen to:

Re-tyle my bathroom
Fix a blocked toilet
Paint my Lounge
Fix a leaking shower (he re-tyled the area as well)
So if you get ripped off by non-registered people, or they do a Bad job, or worse still cause serious damage to your property! what will you tell your insurance company when they ask did you use QUALIFIED tradesmen?

Fuzzyness Feb 26th 2004 7:21 pm


Originally posted by bondipom
It is ashame town planners do not think the same.
and what do you mean by that.

Goodpubmisser Feb 26th 2004 7:23 pm

Leaky shower situation
 
Uhm,

Let me bore you with my leaky shower story to illustrate the point.

1. The shower was leaking behind the tap and below the tiles.

2. My Girlfriend called a Plumber with a Gold Licence that she got out of the yellow Pages.

3. This guy came around, looked at the leak and said to fix it when we next got the bathroom retyled. He said that he would have to take tyles off and we would need to get a tyler to put them back on. In the process he asked my girlfriend to pass him a spanner, took hold of her hand and gave it a quick rub.

4. I called another Plumber out of the Yellow Pages. He arrived 1 hour late and I turned him away.

5. I searched around and called a good Handyman who said that he could fix the shower and retyle if needed.

6. Handyman arrives on time, does good job and charges me about a third of what I would have had to pay, i.e Plumber + Tyler.

I agree that putting in pipes etc is more complicated, but simple repairs do not really call for much skill. Since then I have tought myself how to put on tyles and paint so I would not have to pay for a tyler in the situation above.

Timber Floor Au Feb 26th 2004 7:27 pm

Re: Trades vs Professions
 

Originally posted by WBB
:D

nothing new there then.

i agree with all the others on this thread, you can watch a brickie who has been at it for 25 years and see the difference between his work and some muppet who has just finished a 2 year tech course and is out doing cash in hand work.

well said chipmeister.

Whats that supposed to mean , ?

WBB Feb 26th 2004 7:37 pm

Re: Trades vs Professions
 

Originally posted by Timber Floor Au
Whats that supposed to mean , ?
it MEANS,

NOTHING new there then.

i AGREE with all the others on THIS thread, you can watch a brickie who has been at it for 25 YEARS and see the difference between his WORK and some MUPPET who has just finished a 2 year tech course and is out doing CASH in hand work.

well said chipmeister.

:rolleyes:

Timber Floor Au Feb 26th 2004 7:48 pm

Re: Trades vs Professions
 

Originally posted by WBB
it MEANS,

NOTHING new there then.

i AGREE with all the others on THIS thread, you can watch a brickie who has been at it for 25 YEARS and see the difference between his WORK and some MUPPET who has just finished a 2 year tech course and is out doing CASH in hand work.

well said chipmeister.

:rolleyes:

TWAT springs to MIND and we CAN all do CAPITALS just do me a fuqn FAVOUR keep outta MY FACE and stop ******* jibin at what posts i place COMFUQNPRENDE PAL !

Scossie Feb 26th 2004 8:51 pm

Don't know about the other States, but plumbing in WA is totally different from what I was used to in Scotland.

I was a plumber for 20 years in Scotland, and came to live in Perth WA last May.

I got my Plumbers License right away when I got here, but had to do a WA gas course, (which I expected), as well, so I would know all the WA gas reg's n' stuff.....

I'm now a self employed plumber, working with my mate who I met on the gas course. He's from England, and came out here about the same time as me.

BTW.... Dave, (Abergas), a regular on this forum, was also on the course..... How you going Dave???

Plumbing out here is sooooo.... different from the UK.
When you're working on a site with Aussie plumbers, you sometimes feel like you're an apprentice again!!
I feel like I'm learning new stuff, but having to unlearn, (if that's a word), lots of the stuff that I've been doing for years!!
It's wierd.... But you gradually get used to it.

To get back to the original point of the thread...... If I'm finding it strange doing plumbing out here, with 20 years of experience behind me. Where does that leave the "handyman"???

"Jack of all trades, master of none". is, in my experience, the wizest proverb of then all.......

I could ramble on for ages about this, but I'd probably bore MYSELF into a coma if I write any more, so I'll just leave it at that!!.....

Cheers..... John.........

chippy Feb 26th 2004 9:07 pm

Re: Trades vs Professions
 

Originally posted by Timber Floor Au
TWAT springs to MIND and we CAN all do CAPITALS just do me a fuqn FAVOUR keep outta MY FACE and stop ******* jibin at what posts i place COMFUQNPRENDE PAL !
Why are you making yourself sound like a complete and utter moron Timber? You are not normally this (effing) stupid (pal).

Olibeneli Feb 26th 2004 10:08 pm

Same here too
 
I agree with everyones main commnets on here.....

I'd prefer to pay a good price for a good job, not a cheap and chearful price for a cheap job.

Jack of all trades.....master of none....agreed!.......just as my dada used to say (qulified joiner by the way, now retired).

Anyway.......same goes in my profession (financial systems). My employer thinks they are being smart paying 1/4 the price to employ a 20 year old from India to do a professional job.......you need years of experience (and need to be a qualified accountant in some cases).............same as everyone is saying on here for their trade or profession....

Pay peanuts.......you'll get a job done as if it were done by a monkey...........

Don Feb 27th 2004 1:04 am

At the end of the day, Chippers, you're still happiest with a bit of block + sandpaper in your hands. :cool: :cool: :cool:

I like that! :beer: :beer: :beer:

Goodpubmisser Feb 27th 2004 10:31 am

Re: Same here too
 

Originally posted by Olibeneli
I agree with everyones main commnets on here.....

I'd prefer to pay a good price for a good job, not a cheap and chearful price for a cheap job.

Jack of all trades.....master of none....agreed!.......just as my dada used to say (qulified joiner by the way, now retired).

Anyway.......same goes in my profession (financial systems). My employer thinks they are being smart paying 1/4 the price to employ a 20 year old from India to do a professional job.......you need years of experience (and need to be a qualified accountant in some cases).............same as everyone is saying on here for their trade or profession....

Pay peanuts.......you'll get a job done as if it were done by a monkey...........


Yes but the fact remains that you can pay a lot to do a Tradesman to do a job and and they do it badly.

How many times have you taken your car to a Mechanic (who is a Tradesman) and they have done a bad job? I can do a lot of repairs on cars so I know when a job has been done well or not.

I suppose at the end of the day I will be hiring Handymen to be doing simple repair jobs and not paying much, where as you guys will be paying a lot to a Tradesman to do a "good" job.

Good luck to you.

WBB Feb 27th 2004 10:38 am

Re: Trades vs Professions
 

Originally posted by Timber Floor Au
TWAT springs to MIND and we CAN all do CAPITALS just do me a fuqn FAVOUR keep outta MY FACE and stop ******* jibin at what posts i place COMFUQNPRENDE PAL !
yes timber you are correct, twat does spring to mind!

paulf Feb 27th 2004 6:12 pm

Re: Same here too
 

Originally posted by Goodpubmisser
Yes but the fact remains that you can pay a lot to do a Tradesman to do a job and and they do it badly.

How many times have you taken your car to a Mechanic (who is a Tradesman) and they have done a bad job? I can do a lot of repairs on cars so I know when a job has been done well or not.

I suppose at the end of the day I will be hiring Handymen to be doing simple repair jobs and not paying much, where as you guys will be paying a lot to a Tradesman to do a "good" job.

Good luck to you.
You know I have seen first hand some lovely examples of what people call "Handyman" jobs.
Cooker and fire fitted with garden hose and jubilee clips to gas supply:eek: , now then they were both working but was that ok?
well the handyman who fitted thought they were and the people who paid him thought it was ok.
What price is that good that anyone would find that sort of standard acceptable?


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