Re: Too Early to Jack It All In????
 

can you elaborate?

Re: Too Early to Jack It All In????
 

Is providing the other side to a discussion trolling….?

Re: Too Early to Jack It All In????
 

That is what the people who criticise australia are doing....yet you seem to take issue with them:confused:

It is simply hypocrisy on your part.

Re: Too Early to Jack It All In????
 

No, but deliberately stirring things up is!

Re: Too Early to Jack It All In????
 

Errrrrr – no.

Let me explain the three issues here:

The first is not liking Australia. That’s an individuals choice. I don’t like mangos and peaches.



The second is not liking Australia but continuing to live here (from memory you are in this boat). I don’t buy mangos and peaches because I don’t like them….

To be honest people in this group need help and advice. Its pretty simple advice, go home.



The third is blaming Australia for your own homesickness, inability to find work, settle down, buy the dream house etc. these people are projecting (I’m sure you know what that is, being a psychologist) their problems onto Australia. That simply isn’t fair. That would be me blaming SPC fruits for putting Mangos into cans, and Coles for selling them.

Re: Too Early to Jack It All In????
 

Or maybe some people just like to point out that a lot of what goes on here is shit and could be done better.

What has that got to do with blaming australia for everything?:confused:

.....and why are you not allowed to point out the faults and shortcomings of the place without being to told to 'go home'.

...and many of the people you are talking about already have work, the 'dream' house (sic) and are settled down.


Does that mean that they are not also allowed to be critical?.....or is that reserved for you and your ilk?

Re: Too Early to Jack It All In????
 

Sometimes some of Australias rules & regulations can be to blame for the inability to find work.

Re: Too Early to Jack It All In????
 

That's not "simple advice". It's simplistic advice. What do you suggest I do should I hate the place and my wife and kids love it?. Just say "**** you lot, I'm off" perhaps?

Re: Too Early to Jack It All In????
 

Sally, I am not deliberately stirring anything up here, not am I trolling for an argument.

In fact I feel concern for the OP, who after 3 weeks seems to be considering returning to the UK.

However, some people on BE seem to be stuck in Australia (God knows how, air tickets home are not that expensive), and in revenge seem determined to blame Australia for everything. This isn’t true of all posters on this thread, however having read some of the posts on other threads I am well aware of the opinions.

Which brings me to the second issue, the idea that discussing problems of living in Australia is in any way therapeutic. In some cases, where a fully balanced discussion ensues, it may prove helpful – mainly from a practical perspective. The great danger is that group conformity will concentrate upon negativity, thereby magnifying and reinforcing the issues in the OPs mind. You get dangerously close to Jacks Tribe.

As to your comment: “Life is generally more complex & many have personal situations that you may not be aware of, that keep them here for now. Does that mean they can't moan about stuff from time to time?”

Moan by all means, but at least be honest enough to moan about what the problems REALLY are. If you invested badly, or you wife left you, or you husband refuses to go back to the UK, be fair on everyone and tell us what you are really moaning about. To not do so is very unfair to Australia, because it then takes the blame for events outside its control.

I am happy to stop posting on this thread. I hope the OP gives it a fair go, and takes balanced opinions on the benefits or otherwise of living in Australia.
:)

Re: Too Early to Jack It All In????
 

The social transmission of a belief across a group of like produce excessive emotion amongst the group. In effect the feeling feminded people caneds and multiplies off that of the others.

I agree with this too. people without a doubt can feed of each other for better or worse. I remember not so long a go a Salvation Army officer telling me about drug addicts going into their re hab facilities getting clean then going back to the same area,people,as before then ending up in the same situation. It is about moving on and changing and I could see his point.
Your Maj will do :p

Re: Too Early to Jack It All In????
 

I am certainly not suggesting that you should stop posting.....maybe just stop goading Grayling though!;)

Oh & the MBTUK forum is certainly not for the faint-hearted or those who are homesick & is often blinkered but it is great for getting advice on the practical aspects of repatriation and certainly helped me to keep off my rose tinted specs when planning our move!:D

Re: Too Early to Jack It All In????
 

We're not talking about shit things, or faults. We're talking about people blaming Australia...for their own choices. (Thought the discussion might take this course). Plenty of people talk about said faults quite happily.

That also answers your question about people criticising Australia being off/on limits (or whichever way round it was!)

Re: Too Early to Jack It All In????
 

He's not goading me....we have seen this type of XXXXX many times.

I am simply amusing myself:thumbup:

Re: Too Early to Jack It All In????
 

The fact is there are a whole gamut of people and views on here. I love living in Australia but am considering going back to the UK if my relationship fails completely.Possibly a naive approach but It's a way I can deal with it. I applaud the Australian positive approach to their country but sometimes the negative has to be broached, or what will change what is wrong?

I can understand how only negative comments about Aus can be wearing to an Aus lover but I find as time has passed, I appreciate more and more , their thoughts. I rarely agree, but still can see what they think and feel. I truly believe that a bit more empathy is required. Again I have to state, nothing is black and white....

Re: Too Early to Jack It All In????
 

Can we please keep this discussion going without resorting to insults, either on the forum or behind the scenes, thanks :)