Teaching Job
Jan 19th 2009 | 9:02 pm
#16
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Re: Teaching Job
Salaries in Australia seem lower than UK for senior positions. I know my salry in the UK is better than salaries for principles in Australia.
Jan 20th 2009 | 9:19 am
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Re: Teaching Job
Hey every one,
Thank you for all the info- I think it will be best for me to get qualified in UK as a NQT then move out to australia as my visa will expire if i dont get a move on.
you have all been reli helpfull so thanks again
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Thank you for all the info- I think it will be best for me to get qualified in UK as a NQT then move out to australia as my visa will expire if i dont get a move on.
you have all been reli helpfull so thanks again
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Jan 20th 2009 | 9:48 am
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Re: Teaching Job
Jan 21st 2009 | 12:33 am
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Re: Teaching Job
An extra 10 points for teaching for more than years??? Is this something new? If it is I would be interested in looking into this.
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After you PGCE you only need 1 year of teaching experience to qualify for 60 points on a general skilled visa. Teach for 3 years and you get another 10 points which you might need. Don't do a GTP, they're not recognised here.
Depending on where you want to teach you might be able to come out straight after PGCE, for instance WA were sponsoring science teachers with no experience but with qualifications. However I don't think they're doing that at the moment, and I wouldn't advise diving straight into a new system with no experience. Also it is generally considered wise to get your Induction out of the way in the UK, you don't lose qualified teacher status if you don't do it- but it can make it much more difficult to teach in a UK state school at a later date if you ever return (you may not plan to, but you never know what will happen)
As a physicist you'll be in great demand, VIC was sponsoring Physics teachers for 176 visas a while back (and may still be doing so, I'm not sure) though for this option you do need at least your NQT year done. \
Just by the way- we're all assuming you have a physics degree already... If not (e.g. you've got an engineering degree) you need to contact Teaching Australia to check they will recognise this subject based study as appropriate.
Depending on where you want to teach you might be able to come out straight after PGCE, for instance WA were sponsoring science teachers with no experience but with qualifications. However I don't think they're doing that at the moment, and I wouldn't advise diving straight into a new system with no experience. Also it is generally considered wise to get your Induction out of the way in the UK, you don't lose qualified teacher status if you don't do it- but it can make it much more difficult to teach in a UK state school at a later date if you ever return (you may not plan to, but you never know what will happen)
As a physicist you'll be in great demand, VIC was sponsoring Physics teachers for 176 visas a while back (and may still be doing so, I'm not sure) though for this option you do need at least your NQT year done. \
Just by the way- we're all assuming you have a physics degree already... If not (e.g. you've got an engineering degree) you need to contact Teaching Australia to check they will recognise this subject based study as appropriate.
Jan 21st 2009 | 3:25 am
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Re: Teaching Job
good thread everyone
im a pgce student! its annoying that GTP's arent accepted in oz because i think it would have been more useful for me but im glad i did my research before hand
im a pgce student! its annoying that GTP's arent accepted in oz because i think it would have been more useful for me but im glad i did my research before hand
Jan 21st 2009 | 4:39 pm
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Re: Teaching Job
Teaching is a 60 point occupation, teaching over 20 hours a week for 3 our of the past 4 years gets you 10 points for specific work experience.
Jan 23rd 2009 | 11:09 pm
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Re: Teaching Job
http://www.tda.gov.uk/Recruit/thetra...ate/scitt.aspx
I did a SCITT PGCE which basically gives you about two thirds of the course in school with a mentor and your own class and the rest of the time is spent at uni doing the theoretical side of the course. It is really hard as you have to cover all the work of a full time PGCE as well as planning lessons, teaching, marking, planning school trips etc. This was the best option for me as I wanted to get as much experience as I could while studying but I also wanted to gain a globally recognised post graduate qualification.
Jan 23rd 2009 | 11:49 pm
#23
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Re: Teaching Job
No, nothing new. Look here http://www.immi.gov.au/skilled/gener...experience.htm
Teaching is a 60 point occupation, teaching over 20 hours a week for 3 our of the past 4 years gets you 10 points for specific work experience.
Teaching is a 60 point occupation, teaching over 20 hours a week for 3 our of the past 4 years gets you 10 points for specific work experience.
Jan 24th 2009 | 9:51 am
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Re: Teaching Job
The School Centred Initial Teacher Training PGCE is a very good option for those wanting to do a more hands-on course.
http://www.tda.gov.uk/Recruit/thetra...ate/scitt.aspx
I did a SCITT PGCE which basically gives you about two thirds of the course in school with a mentor and your own class and the rest of the time is spent at uni doing the theoretical side of the course. It is really hard as you have to cover all the work of a full time PGCE as well as planning lessons, teaching, marking, planning school trips etc. This was the best option for me as I wanted to get as much experience as I could while studying but I also wanted to gain a globally recognised post graduate qualification.
http://www.tda.gov.uk/Recruit/thetra...ate/scitt.aspx
I did a SCITT PGCE which basically gives you about two thirds of the course in school with a mentor and your own class and the rest of the time is spent at uni doing the theoretical side of the course. It is really hard as you have to cover all the work of a full time PGCE as well as planning lessons, teaching, marking, planning school trips etc. This was the best option for me as I wanted to get as much experience as I could while studying but I also wanted to gain a globally recognised post graduate qualification.
Jan 25th 2009 | 7:57 pm
#25
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Re: Teaching Job
Yes, but people need to be careful with SCITT courses too- not all of them are sufficiently 'Uni based' for Teaching Australia. I remember someone on here having issues trying to get a SCITT recognised- if moving to Oz is the aim then PGCE is by far the safest route.
Mar 16th 2009 | 9:07 am
#26
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Re: Teaching Job
hi, I qualified overseas (non UK) - BSc plus post grad education diploma. Did my QTS in UK too, but didn't complete the NQT year, as I accepted a job in the pharmaceutical industry.
How will it work if I get a teaching job on a 457 as a Maths/Science teacher? Will I repeat a similar training year in Oz, or will my training (diploma which included practical teaching) AND the training in the UK of a similar year count? Was hoping its not needed to go through that a 3rd time!! LOL
But will do it if needed.....
Any advise appreciated. thx
How will it work if I get a teaching job on a 457 as a Maths/Science teacher? Will I repeat a similar training year in Oz, or will my training (diploma which included practical teaching) AND the training in the UK of a similar year count? Was hoping its not needed to go through that a 3rd time!! LOL
But will do it if needed.....
Any advise appreciated. thx
Mar 16th 2009 | 8:49 pm
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Re: Teaching Job
You will need to check with each states accreditation board, a bit like NARIC in the UK. In victoria its the VIT: www.vit.vic.edu.au The website will tell you. If you have bachelor and diploma it should be ok, however you will have to prove that you have had a certain amount of days teaching. The VIT will give you a form to fill in. You will need all your paper work in order such as original transctipts of your degree etc. The cost to register and checks is approx 120 aussie dollars
Hope this helps and if you have any more queiries please feel free to contact me
Hope this helps and if you have any more queiries please feel free to contact me
