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Re: Sunburn - a word of warning
I had to give an extremely informative sppech a school about sunburn and here are some of the main pointers that I could remember.
1. The Worst place is not Melbourne or New Zealand it is infact PERTH which has no oz-one or next to nothing. 2. The number on the bottle ie. 30 is how long in minutes you should be spending in the sun. So putting a sun factor 30 on for the day is hopeless. Put it on about 4 times in the day to be safe. 3. Most people rub the cream in until it is invisible but when you put it on you are actually meant to see the cream, yes white skin. Now i havn't made this stuff up it's on official web-sites and doctors which have appeared on t.v. over in the U.K. I know it's annoying getting cream on your clothes but thats how it is. If you have fair hair you burn. And if you have red hair especially you fry. 4. If you want higher sun factor best bet is to contact a well known sun cream producer and ask them to export i.e. PIZ BUIN is sahara desert tested. 5. Water. You could be stationary OR swimming it doesn't matter. The light rays hit you then the water and then reflect back onto you giving YOU twice or three times the burn. Good idea to wear a t-shirt and make sure it's white 'cos it reflects the rays. NOT BLACK! 6. AND REMEMBER MOST IMPORTANT POINT! There are UVA and UVB rays check on the back of your sun cream bottle what your's covers. UVA is the number ie. spf 15, spf 30+ and the UVB is represented in stars out of FIVE on the back. If there are no stars and it doesn't say anything about UVB DON'T buy it. UVB is the one which CAUSES skin cancer! Hope this has cleared up some confusion. I went to Oz in the summer for a reccie and didn't get burned once. N.B Hats - good idea! :D Hope this has helped. Pommy Babe. :beer: |
Re: Sunburn - a word of warning
Originally Posted by Pommy babe
I had to give an extremely informative sppech a school about sunburn and here are some of the main pointers that I could remember.
1. The Worst place is not Melbourne or New Zealand it is infact PERTH which has no oz-one or next to nothing. 2. The number on the bottle ie. 30 is how long in minutes you should be spending in the sun. So putting a sun factor 30 on for the day is hopeless. Put it on about 4 times in the day to be safe. 3. Most people rub the cream in until it is invisible but when you put it on you are actually meant to see the cream, yes white skin. Now i havn't made this stuff up it's on official web-sites and doctors which have appeared on t.v. over in the U.K. I know it's annoying getting cream on your clothes but thats how it is. If you have fair hair you burn. And if you have red hair especially you fry. 4. If you want higher sun factor best bet is to contact a well known sun cream producer and ask them to export i.e. PIZ BUIN is sahara desert tested. 5. Water. You could be stationary OR swimming it doesn't matter. The light rays hit you then the water and then reflect back onto you giving YOU twice or three times the burn. Good idea to wear a t-shirt and make sure it's white 'cos it reflects the rays. NOT BLACK! 6. AND REMEMBER MOST IMPORTANT POINT! There are UVA and UVB rays check on the back of your sun cream bottle what your's covers. UVA is the number ie. spf 15, spf 30+ and the UVB is represented in stars out of FIVE on the back. If there are no stars and it doesn't say anything about UVB DON'T buy it. UVB is the one which CAUSES skin cancer! Hope this has cleared up some confusion. I went to Oz in the summer for a reccie and didn't get burned once. N.B Hats - good idea! :D Hope this has helped. Pommy Babe. :beer: |
Re: Sunburn - a word of warning
Originally Posted by Pootle
Good points - but Oz sun creams don't have the UVB stars on the back like they do in the uk! Some do say they give uvb protection but thats all. I thought coming here we'd get all the super sun cream etc but it seems way behind the uk?
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Re: Sunburn - a word of warning
Originally Posted by Pootle
Good points - but Oz sun creams don't have the UVB stars on the back like they do in the uk! Some do say they give uvb protection but thats all. I thought coming here we'd get all the super sun cream etc but it seems way behind the uk?
I don't trust the sun over here at all and I am in Perth, anything from September onwards can burn in a short amount of time, so always slap on some sun cream, its not worth not to in the end, as another poster says the are loads of skin clinics and the cancer clinics are full here and I don't fancy ever having to be a patient at one. Jenny |
Re: Sunburn - a word of warning
Originally Posted by Luke I Amyofath
Suffice to say one would be prudent to protect themselves against the effects of the sun which for whatever reason tends to burn skin quicker here in Australia I have found, compared to the countries I have lived in.
Useful link: Bom UV forecasts These are daily forecasts for Australia. There's also a page with graphs for major Australian cities and another with text forecasts for a bigger range of places - both linked from the main UV forecasts page. We're into extreme UV levels in most of Australia at the moment, with today's UV index for Melbourne hitting 11 (Darwin, by comparison, got 16). Compare that with UV index of 1 or 2 for Britain and you get the picture... |
Re: Sunburn - a word of warning
Originally Posted by haggis supper
As the kids got wet suits and body boards we went to the beach on Boxing Day. My mother in law took the kids out swimming and playing in the water for 45 minutes only. It was about 25 degrees but cloudy.
By the evening we knew she was sunburnt and in pain. By Wednesday she'd spent 2 days slapping on Aloa Vera and crying almost constantly. We took her to the hospital and it was one of the worst sunburn cases they had seen, she had to be passed to the Burns Unit and they have applied a "second skin" to her back that will have to be removed this Saturday. She is still in pain and cannot sit back or sleep properly. We've learnt a valuable lesson. Even on a very cloudy day you can get badly burned in just 45 mins, and Aloa Vera/Aftersun is only useful on mild burns. On the plus side at least I now have good reason to poke fun at the mother in law. Seeing her wrapped up in bandages I did mention the film The Mummy Returns. |
Re: Sunburn - a word of warning
I was very sun conscious (slip, slap, slop) in Australia but the dull days caught me out on a few occasions and I think myself lucky I was not taken to hospital with the severity of the burns, it is a dangerous sun over there and caution at ALL times :(
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Re: Sunburn - a word of warning
Does anyone know how different the sun is in Oz from say, the Red Sea?
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Re: Sunburn - a word of warning
Originally Posted by marco121068
Does anyone know how different the sun is in Oz from say, the Red Sea?
we r talkin bout \Oz no the ****** Red Sea............the sun is dangerous no matter where u r....even in the UK the kids didnbt go out without sun screan...shades and hat on....used to make us laff when peeps sed awe bless how do u get them to keep hat and dhades on i would say ummmm they r 3 years old if they dont wear em they r inside FFS...when we came to \oz....was kids beach walk for charity....out of 159 pupils my two were the only ones with shades on FFS people get a grip huh |
Re: Sunburn - a word of warning
Originally Posted by marco121068
Does anyone know how different the sun is in Oz from say, the Red Sea?
I lived in Israel for 6 months and of course I was careful but found 7 years in Australia to be the most severe when it came to the sun than any place I had lived before. SYDNEY - 8.30 am in the morning, 10 minutes pegging up the washing and RED shoulders :eek: :scared: |
Re: Sunburn - a word of warning
Originally Posted by biggy
we r talkin bout \Oz no the ****** Red Sea............the sun is dangerous no matter where u r....even in the UK the kids didnbt go out without sun screan...shades and hat on....used to make us laff when peeps sed awe bless how do u get them to keep hat and dhades on i would say ummmm they r 3 years old if they dont wear em they r inside FFS...when we came to \oz....was kids beach walk for charity....out of 159 pupils my two were the only ones with shades on FFS people get a grip huh
Many people only have to think about being in the sun and they are lobsterfied (is that a word??) whereas some have much more tolerance (myself included). |
Re: Sunburn - a word of warning
Originally Posted by merlotsmum
I guess something to do with how far you are away from the equator???? :confused: Maybe the Ozone???? Not sure, any geography/weather experts around?
I lived in Israel for 6 months and of course I was careful but found 7 years in Australia to be the most severe when it came to the sun than any place I had lived before. SYDNEY - 8.30 am in the morning, 10 minutes pegging up the washing and RED shoulders :eek: :scared: |
Re: Sunburn - a word of warning
Originally Posted by rossifumi
Closer you are to the Equator the closer you are to the sun.
I guess there are also a dozen "weather" type factors to take into account? MMum :) |
Re: Sunburn - a word of warning
i have a really high sun tolerance....... have travelled the world wearing nothing more than spf 2 and still have lovely fresh skin ( being 23 does hold with that tho), have never been burnt and keep a decent tan for months
however even in australia i have to venture to 15+ on a normal day and special high water resistant 30+ on Scuba diving /beach days. another word of advice for peeps using strange aussie sunscreen for the 1st time..... check it's safe for you to use on a small patch of skin (behind ears is good.... don't do what i do and slap it on the ole face only to have to run to the bathroom in agony 5 minutes later. was burnt and blistered before i even made it outside!!! great start to my holiday eh!!! Auntie Darlene has now banned that particular sunscreen from the house thank goodness! |
Re: Sunburn - a word of warning
Originally Posted by YoSemite
i have a really high sun tolerance....... have travelled the world wearing nothing more than spf 2 and still have lovely fresh skin ( being 23 does hold with that tho), have never been burnt and keep a decent tan for months
however even in australia i have to venture to 15+ on a normal day and special high water resistant 30+ on Scuba diving /beach days. another word of advice for peeps using strange aussie sunscreen for the 1st time..... check it's safe for you to use on a small patch of skin (behind ears is good.... don't do what i do and slap it on the ole face only to have to run to the bathroom in agony 5 minutes later. was burnt and blistered before i even made it outside!!! great start to my holiday eh!!! Auntie Darlene has now banned that particular sunscreen from the house thank goodness! |
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