Student Visas - Rental Income in UK
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Student Visas - Rental Income in UK
We're heading to Perth on Student Visas later this year.
We will be selling our home but we have several rental properties here in Scotland. I am assuming during the 2 years that we are students the rental income should continue to be declared in the UK or do we declare it in Australia? I don't think I need to complete a non-resident landlords form with the Inland Revenue because we will still be resident in the UK - just in OZ on temporary visas.
Can't seem to find an answer and I called a couple of people about this but they've not returned my call.
Thank you.
We will be selling our home but we have several rental properties here in Scotland. I am assuming during the 2 years that we are students the rental income should continue to be declared in the UK or do we declare it in Australia? I don't think I need to complete a non-resident landlords form with the Inland Revenue because we will still be resident in the UK - just in OZ on temporary visas.
Can't seem to find an answer and I called a couple of people about this but they've not returned my call.
Thank you.
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Re: Student Visas - Rental Income in UK
Hi Kingseat
In my opinion, you will be temporary tax residents in Australia, based on your time in Australia (2 years) and visa class. Although temporary, you are still a tax resident. You may very well remain tax resident in the UK, should you spend an average of 91 days pa in the UK over a four year period.
I understand that form NRL1 is required by anyone who leaves the UK for 6 months or more at a time, irrespective of tax residency.
UK sourced rental income is always taxed in the UK. You will only pay Australian tax on such income if you hold a permanent visa (and also get a tax credit for UK tax paid).
Hope that helps. Perth is great.
mkp
In my opinion, you will be temporary tax residents in Australia, based on your time in Australia (2 years) and visa class. Although temporary, you are still a tax resident. You may very well remain tax resident in the UK, should you spend an average of 91 days pa in the UK over a four year period.
I understand that form NRL1 is required by anyone who leaves the UK for 6 months or more at a time, irrespective of tax residency.
UK sourced rental income is always taxed in the UK. You will only pay Australian tax on such income if you hold a permanent visa (and also get a tax credit for UK tax paid).
Hope that helps. Perth is great.
mkp
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Re: Student Visas - Rental Income in UK
We're heading to Perth on Student Visas later this year.
We will be selling our home but we have several rental properties here in Scotland. I am assuming during the 2 years that we are students the rental income should continue to be declared in the UK or do we declare it in Australia? I don't think I need to complete a non-resident landlords form with the Inland Revenue because we will still be resident in the UK - just in OZ on temporary visas.
Can't seem to find an answer and I called a couple of people about this but they've not returned my call.
Thank you.
We will be selling our home but we have several rental properties here in Scotland. I am assuming during the 2 years that we are students the rental income should continue to be declared in the UK or do we declare it in Australia? I don't think I need to complete a non-resident landlords form with the Inland Revenue because we will still be resident in the UK - just in OZ on temporary visas.
Can't seem to find an answer and I called a couple of people about this but they've not returned my call.
Thank you.
Check the Residency test at http://www.ato.gov.au/individuals/co...tent/36255.htm
I think you will be classed as Tax resident, in which case :
Overseas Investment Property
Australian Taxable Income includes all your worldwide income, including profits from renting out a property overseas. A tax offset for foreign income tax paid is available.
As from July 2008, any losses incurred from the rental of property outside Australia can now be offset against Australian Taxable Income.
Australian Taxable Income includes all your worldwide income, including profits from renting out a property overseas. A tax offset for foreign income tax paid is available.
As from July 2008, any losses incurred from the rental of property outside Australia can now be offset against Australian Taxable Income.
Foreign income : http://www.ato.gov.au/content/33664.htm
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Re: Student Visas - Rental Income in UK
Yep, as a student you are considered 'resident for tax purposes'. No idea how that works tax wise for you though.
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Re: Student Visas - Rental Income in UK
Hi Kingseat
In my opinion, you will be temporary tax residents in Australia, based on your time in Australia (2 years) and visa class. Although temporary, you are still a tax resident. You may very well remain tax resident in the UK, should you spend an average of 91 days pa in the UK over a four year period.
I understand that form NRL1 is required by anyone who leaves the UK for 6 months or more at a time, irrespective of tax residency.
UK sourced rental income is always taxed in the UK. You will only pay Australian tax on such income if you hold a permanent visa (and also get a tax credit for UK tax paid).
Hope that helps. Perth is great.
mkp
In my opinion, you will be temporary tax residents in Australia, based on your time in Australia (2 years) and visa class. Although temporary, you are still a tax resident. You may very well remain tax resident in the UK, should you spend an average of 91 days pa in the UK over a four year period.
I understand that form NRL1 is required by anyone who leaves the UK for 6 months or more at a time, irrespective of tax residency.
UK sourced rental income is always taxed in the UK. You will only pay Australian tax on such income if you hold a permanent visa (and also get a tax credit for UK tax paid).
Hope that helps. Perth is great.
mkp
To tax that much to someone on low income regardless of nationality is just criminal. (They are like pirates!)
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Re: Student Visas - Rental Income in UK
Now, the UK exchange rate is poor at this time, but double taxation would cost you more. (43% for those on visa I heard, even if you are only making 14 dollars per hour!!!!) That should be what someone with a six figure income should be paying, not someone who works for McDonald's!!!
To tax that much to someone on low income regardless of nationality is just criminal. (They are like pirates!)
To tax that much to someone on low income regardless of nationality is just criminal. (They are like pirates!)
That would be 247 hours per week at $14 per hour, to reach that tax rate
If you were earning $14 ph and did 38 hours per week, you would end up paying 11.7% of your income in tax.
Work part time and do only 19 hours per week, (earn $266 pw) and you pay zero tax.
It isn't as bad as you seem to think.
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Re: Student Visas - Rental Income in UK
The actual higher tax rates are 40% and 45%, but you need to be earning $80,000 per year for the 40% rate, or $180,000 per year to each the 45% rate.
That would be 247 hours per week at $14 per hour, to reach that tax rate
If you were earning $14 ph and did 38 hours per week, you would end up paying 11.7% of your income in tax.
Work part time and do only 19 hours per week, (earn $266 pw) and you pay zero tax.
It isn't as bad as you seem to think.
That would be 247 hours per week at $14 per hour, to reach that tax rate
If you were earning $14 ph and did 38 hours per week, you would end up paying 11.7% of your income in tax.
Work part time and do only 19 hours per week, (earn $266 pw) and you pay zero tax.
It isn't as bad as you seem to think.
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"Yep, as a student you are considered 'resident for tax purposes'. No idea how that works tax wise for you though"
But can you work on a student visa???
But can you work on a student visa???
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I am not an Aussie, and those rates apply to me.
It also applies to anyone that is classed as Tax resident, and this does not mean with a resident visa only. It also applies to many other visas.
A person that is NON tax resident would pay the following rates:
Therefore your $14 per hour earner, even if they did 46 hours per week, would still only pay 29% tax. Even 110 hours per week and it would still only be 30% tax.
A NON Tax resident earning $200,000 pa will pay $72,660 in tax (ie: 36.33%)
earn $300,000 pa and they pay $117,660 or 39.22%
earn $869,000 pa and they pay $373,710 or 43.00% which is the rate you say is payable for someone earning $14 per hour.
It also applies to anyone that is classed as Tax resident, and this does not mean with a resident visa only. It also applies to many other visas.
A person that is NON tax resident would pay the following rates:
On the first $34,000 the pay 29%
On the part between $34,001 and $80,000 they pay 30%
On the part between $80,001 – $180,000 they pay 40%
On the rest over $180,00 they pay 45%
On the part between $34,001 and $80,000 they pay 30%
On the part between $80,001 – $180,000 they pay 40%
On the rest over $180,00 they pay 45%
A NON Tax resident earning $200,000 pa will pay $72,660 in tax (ie: 36.33%)
earn $300,000 pa and they pay $117,660 or 39.22%
earn $869,000 pa and they pay $373,710 or 43.00% which is the rate you say is payable for someone earning $14 per hour.
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From 26 April 2008, people granted a Student Visa will automatically receive permission to work with their visa grant. Most student visa holders will no longer need to apply separately in Australia for permission to work.