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Re: Somalis in Perth
Originally Posted by elmtree
Mally Lass, you are right; Somalis are very clever. They seem to know how to get what they want from their host country.
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Re: Somalis in Perth
Originally Posted by Mally Lass
Just out of interest, what exactly do they bring to the area ?
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Re: Somalis in Perth
Originally Posted by Lord Pom Percy
What do the poms bring to the area?
Are the Somalians, with apparently limited limbs (from another poster) and poor english also capable of offering the same contribution ? It was a question...........chill out ! |
Re: Somalis in Perth
Originally Posted by Mally Lass
The OP didn't state anything about English and what they contributed, but if you're asking, I assume to carry out work, like most people, in trades that Australia needs.
Are the Somalians, with apparently limited limbs (from another poster) and poor english also capable of offering the same contribution ? It was a question...........chill out ! Australia despite the common notion that it only takes white poms from manchester and surrey :rolleyes: , also takes immigrants and refugees from 229 other countries. Included among them are a great deal from africa, not just refugees but immigrants too. If australia chooses to offer a few thousand places to people who are fleeing a life most of us cant comprehend then well done australia. Most countries take some humanitarian cases, australias no different. Besides 19. 5 million of the 20 odd million people who live in australia are not aboriginal, they are from immigrant stock, australia takes who it can get from where it can get them. The only people on here really saying who should be allowed to come in and whos flippin superior :rolleyes: to someone else should be the aboriginals after all they are the native australians not us. |
Re: Somalis in Perth
Originally Posted by Lord Pom Percy
What do the poms bring to the area?
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Re: Somalis in Perth
Originally Posted by jad n rich
Australia despite the common notion that it only takes white poms from manchester and surrey :rolleyes: , also takes immigrants and refugees from 229 other countries.
Included among them are a great deal from africa, not just refugees but immigrants too. If australia chooses to offer a few thousand places to people who are fleeing a life most of us cant comprehend then well done australia. Most countries take some humanitarian cases, australias no different. Besides 19. 5 million of the 20 odd million people who live in australia are not aboriginal, they are from immigrant stock, australia takes who it can get from where it can get them. The only people on here really saying who should be allowed to come in and whos flippin superior :rolleyes: to someone else should be the aboriginals after all they are the native australians not us. However if Australia does indeed take who it can get from where it can get it, why is it so difficult for people who are paying to get there ??? |
Re: Somalis in Perth
Originally Posted by Mally Lass
Firstly I agree with Countries taking in immigrants from wherever, I have not said this is a problem !!! I also said nothing about being superior and was not my point. I was asking a Q to the OP !! I am also aware of the history of Australia, thank you !
However if Australia does indeed take who it can get from where it can get it, why is it so difficult for people who are paying to get there ??? If you dont have a problem with Somalians and non english immigrants then what is your point about them :confused: As for immigration, Difficult compared to what? would a hairdresser, builder, bricklayer etc get into the United states or indeed how many people who qualify to immigrate to aus could get into the USA at all. Waiting times, we know aussies emigrating to Canada, the processing time is up to 5 YEARS. Makes australia look pretty easy by comparisom. |
Re: Somalis in Perth
Originally Posted by elmtree
Somalis are very clever. They seem to know how to get what they want from their host country.
I was waiting for this. |
Re: Somalis in Perth
Originally Posted by NKSK version 2
I was waiting for this.
But people dont have a problem with them :rolleyes: |
Re: Somalis in Perth
Originally Posted by jad n rich
Difficult compared to what? would a hairdresser, builder, bricklayer etc get into the United states or indeed how many people who qualify to immigrate to aus could get into the USA at all.
Waiting times, we know aussies emigrating to Canada, the processing time is up to 5 YEARS. Makes australia look pretty easy by comparisom. You said "australia takes who it can get from where it can get them." and my question was "However if Australia does indeed take who it can get from where it can get it, why is it so difficult for people who are paying to get there ???" Refugees do not go through the costly immigration process, so why is it so difficult for those paying ??? I'm not comparing to other countries, I'm asking about Australia, not Canada or anywhere else. |
Re: Somalis in Perth
Originally Posted by Mally Lass
I wasn't comparing to any other Country, and neither were you.
You said "australia takes who it can get from where it can get them." and my question was "However if Australia does indeed take who it can get from where it can get it, why is it so difficult for people who are paying to get there ???" Refugees do not go through the costly immigration process, so why is it so difficult for those paying ??? I'm not comparing to other countries, I'm asking about Australia, not Canada or anywhere else. |
Re: Somalis in Perth
Originally Posted by Mally Lass
I wasn't comparing to any other Country, and neither were you.
You said "australia takes who it can get from where it can get them." and my question was "However if Australia does indeed take who it can get from where it can get it, why is it so difficult for people who are paying to get there ???" Refugees do not go through the costly immigration process, so why is it so difficult for those paying ??? I'm not comparing to other countries, I'm asking about Australia, not Canada or anywhere else. I am sure the average refugee would swap the atrocities or horrors they had to go through to end up in a refugee camp for your one year wait and a few days of paperwork. I dont actually think people get themselves into a refugee situation thinking , oh yeah might wake up today, have a few family members die, lose a limb or two as you so charmingly put it, become homesless, own nothing bar a few rags, starve the children, go through a war or two, oh look now I can get into australia :eek: Too easy. |
Re: Somalis in Perth
Originally Posted by jad n rich
I am sure the average refugee would swap the atrocities or horrors they had to go through to end up in a refugee camp for your one year wait and a few days of paperwork.
I dont actually think people get themselves into a refugee situation thinking , oh yeah might wake up today, have a few family members die, lose a limb or two as you so charmingly put it, become homesless, own nothing bar a few rags, starve the children, go through a war or two, oh look now I can get into australia :eek: Too easy. As for what they go through !!! Maybe Australia does get the truly needy ones. (I will add I spent a long time working with ethnic minority communities, Somalian being a very large one and I have been informed by them all of the terrible time they had getting into the country they chose to end up in !) |
Re: Somalis in Perth
Originally Posted by Sallyanne
on the edge indeed
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Re: Somalis in Perth
What is a Mally anyway?
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