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Old Dec 14th 2009 | 11:05 pm
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Originally Posted by CosmicBertie
Numerous ISPs in the UK are already filtering internet traffic. The IWF have threatened to name and shame ISPs who allow access to certain content. As such most are falling over themselves to put filtering inplace. No one wants to be associated with the paedophiles.
That is what the Conroy is counting on mate, the "if you're not with us, you're with the paedophiles" approach. Besides the UK are just filtering a specific list of ~70 static URL's, that's nowhere near the dynamic content based filtering that Conroy is promoting.

Even the Federal Police have stated that this will do nothing to stop those creeps. They don't use websites and it's 0.0001% of websites in the world which have anything even approaching that content.

This is a vehicle for the religious factions to implement their families first, last and only, agendas. Plain and simple. Fast forward five years and imagine what this will be like once they start to chip away at the list of what is acceptable. Read the governments report on false positives. Only 3.6% of "acceptable" sites were incorrectly blocked... 3.6%! That's 3.5 in every hundred you might visit to block 0.0001% of sites on the net.

I suggest you read up on this beyond the spin from Conroy's office. 100% success at blocking the URL's in the block list is not the issue, it's the subjective blocking of the "other content" which is of concern. They are already talking about effects on filtering Gambling, Adult and Bikini/Swimsuit content... What's next, atheist websites.

I don't have an issue with an opt-out or out-in filtering mechanism, I might even use it. The point is that this is MANDATORY and we will have no say or knowledge of what is on this list of "acceptable content".

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Old Dec 14th 2009 | 11:22 pm
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Default Re: So what's happening about the cleanfeed?

Do I still want to get into Oz.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8413377.stm

They will be telling what I can eat next.

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Old Dec 14th 2009 | 11:27 pm
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Default Re: So what's happening about the cleanfeed?

Originally Posted by ubdai
Do I still want to get into Oz.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/8413377.stm

They will be telling what I can eat next.

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I know how you feel. I discovered that they have declined to rate the new Aliens vs Predator game this week, effectively banning it here.

I do start to find this whole nanny state government knows best thing here is getting more and more intrusive. It makes me wonder if this is the place to plan a future...


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Old Dec 15th 2009 | 12:34 am
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Originally Posted by bigAPE
I suggest you read up on this beyond the spin from Conroy's office. 100% success at blocking the URL's in the block list is not the issue, it's the subjective blocking of the "other content" which is of concern. They are already talking about effects on filtering Gambling, Adult and Bikini/Swimsuit content... What's next, atheist websites.

I don't have an issue with an opt-out or out-in filtering mechanism, I might even use it. The point is that this is MANDATORY and we will have no say or knowledge of what is on this list of "acceptable content".
I didnt say I agree with it, just stating the fact that its already in place.

Once its in, however small, it can then be easily expanded. Look at how they've started to implement the National ID Card. They've scaled it back to just a small group of people that need them (foreign students I think now?), once thats gets accepted, then that group can be easily expanded, albeit slowly, until everyone is encompassed.
 
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This is very bad news
 
Old Dec 15th 2009 | 8:07 pm
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Originally Posted by Swerv-o
I know how you feel. I discovered that they have declined to rate the new Aliens vs Predator game this week, effectively banning it here.

I do start to find this whole nanny state government knows best thing here is getting more and more intrusive. It makes me wonder if this is the place to plan a future...


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They also failed to rate the Manhunt 2 game, banning that too. Doesnt stop people from obtaining it, it just forces people to use non-conventional methods.
 
Old Dec 16th 2009 | 9:40 am
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Originally Posted by CosmicBertie
They also failed to rate the Manhunt 2 game, banning that too. Doesnt stop people from obtaining it, it just forces people to use non-conventional methods.

Chances are I would have ordered it from CDWOW! anyway, but it's the 'government knows best' principle that gets up my nose - the way that an active group of society has to suffer in the name of protecting a different part of society who are considered unable to make their own decisions...


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Old Dec 16th 2009 | 10:39 am
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Originally Posted by Swerv-o
Chances are I would have ordered it from CDWOW! anyway, but it's the 'government knows best' principle that gets up my nose - the way that an active group of society has to suffer in the name of protecting a different part of society who are considered unable to make their own decisions...


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True....but, the government makes these decisions because certain elements of society allow their kids to play these games, who then become violent themselves. Instead of the parents accepting responsibility, people blame the graphic nature of the games (movies too), turn to the government and scream 'legislation!' to get them banned. If the parents were somehow punished for letting their kids play these games then perhaps the government would back down, but then again, once the government gets its hooks into something, it rarely lets go.

The government generally works on vocal groups, the majority being the 'this is bad, porn is horffic and corrupting, violent computer games should be banned...yada yada'. I dont think I've ever seen anyone protesting about how great things are.....Have you thought about writing to your MP and saying how great violent computer games are...or how great pornography is? I bet not, me neither, but then again, I bet there are thousands who have said how bad they think it is. People tend to be vocal when things are bad or have gone wrong.

Hmm, I'm rambling now. Better stop drinking the whiskey and goto bed.
 
Old Dec 16th 2009 | 10:48 am
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Default Re: So what's happening about the cleanfeed?

Originally Posted by CosmicBertie
True....but, the government makes these decisions because certain elements of society allow their kids to play these games, who then become violent themselves.
If the government stopped paying out money to these certain types of people to have kids they can't afford and who allow their kids to watch and play these games there wouldn't be a problem.
 
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Most people seem to share the same thoughts on this so I shall not rant. Merely I shall never vote for the Labor government in Australia because of this one single issue. As a citizen it is the only voice of protest that counts.
 
Old Dec 21st 2009 | 11:18 am
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An interesting article on Conjobs feed:-

http://www.zdnet.com.au/insight/secu...9300141,00.htm
 

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