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I saw the beginning of the report, then read the web site. I also thought that original reports had said it wasn't a patrolled beach :confused:

Initial reports also said she was smimming with here dog, but nothing else mentioned about it, even though many people do say that swimming dogs attract sharks. I wondered if that was why the shark(s) bypassed the other swimmers, and headed closer to where the dog was. ?

All pure speculation by me though :)

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Nah - nothing to do with the dog - you know what it's like when you just get ONE hair stuck in your throat LOL

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Ken Crew was killed in waste deep water (Cottlesloe Beach, Perth). White Pointer bit his leg off.

Until there is a mass cull and shark nets improved, these attacks will continue.

I plan to enjoy boating on the Swan, and swimming in my pool. Anymore than that wouldn't be worth the stress.

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This beach was not "protected" by a net but by a floating drums dangling baited hooks which have apparently caught about 18 large sharks in the last 10 years.

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Mass culling is not the way forward. Thats a stupid knee jerk reaction with no overall impact. Humans kill 100 million a year already for heavens sake.

Protect beaches in shark areas and sign the beach too for sure. Educate people and let them know the risk they take and the precautions. The sea is not a Disneyland Park or zoo.

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The only knee jerk reaction is the one you gave - which I was expecting as soon as I mentioned a cull.

There's always somebody who has the poor animal's welfare at heart. Even if it is a savage man eating beast.

Would love to know where your figure of 100 million a year comes from. And anyway, even if that's true, and people are still getting eaten, then it's not enough.

I saw a ridiculous program recently on dangerous creepy crawlies in Oz. This guy found a group of red backs living in a garage, and removed them. But can you believe he didn't kill them - he put them 'safely' into the nearest bit of bush!!

Even if mass culls make these ****in things extinct - so be it. Who would anyone be any worse off without them.

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I despise peoples reactions like yours, what makes you think you have more right to be here than them. After all the ocean is there habitat not ours.

These incidents are rare, you cant just kill everything because you dont like it.

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If you did that then the Dolphins would be at the top of the food chain and then they will swim around in packs with flick knives - not nice at all.

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Ummmmm...it's not as easy as that. I presume you've heard about evolution / food chains etc? Then maybe do a bit of research and you'll probably find the answer as to why this wouldn't work;)

Personally I think we should do as much as we can to preserve human life by putting up shark nets in areas where there are going to be lots of bathers. Yes there will be shark fatalities i.e they will get caught in the nets if too close, but in the grand scheme of things few will be killed and personally I'd rather a shark got caught in a net than my child / brother /sister / mother / father eaten alive.

In terms of wishing to preserve shark lives at all cost i.e "we are in their territory"...well my answer to that is "so what?" We are the more intelligent species hence we CAN go in their territory and so we should do what we can to protect ourselves. However to bring balance to the argument, I wouldn't want shark nets everywhere for that reason i.e I wouldn't want to indiscriminately kill sharks for no reason so in the less popular swimming areas leave out the nets [to preserve sharks wherever poss] yet warn swimmers of the dangers / risks involved.

Others could argue there are so few deaths caused by sharks and other predators in the sea e.g Box Jellies, that it's not worth the expenditure nor is it fair on the sharks or other creatures getting caught up in these nets . Perhaps ANY preservation of life is worth it, even if it's not 100% foolproof? [afterall sharks can still get past the nets].

Maybe we should do a poll to assess
1. Who would like nets to preserve human life at all cost?
2. Who would prefer no nets to preserve wildlife at all costs?
3. Who would like nets in popular beach areas to protect bathers as much as poss?

Does anyone know if we can add polls after the thread has started?

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According to George Burgess who maintains the international shark attack file at the university of Florida, more people die each year from falling coconuts than from shark bites!!! :scared:

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Food chain? Bo!!ocks.

Don't quote evolutionary crap, unless you understand it yourself. What marine life relies on a fekkin shark for survival? And before anyone replies claiming to be less that 1% of the public who might know of such a creature -firstly, who gives a sh!t, secondly, what does it matter anyway, and thirdly, go hang yourself for being sad enough to actually know this.

The facts of the matter are this. Like it or not, people are regularly getting attacked by sharks around the world. Look at the dudes earlier post from the Shark Institute if you want chuffin figures.

Totally with you on the extra nets etc. This, and a mass cull would reduce the immediate population, giving the public confidence and above all, save lives.

As for the attack being in their habitat. Totally with you on this one as well Phoenix. In fact, I think the parents of the young girl should be written to, so they are absolutely clear it was their daughter's fault for swimming in the sea that she was eaten alive. Whatever next.

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Lets all rush out and cut down every coconut tree!! Mass coconut cull I say.... :rolleyes: :p

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Well actually the entire reef ecosystem as it happens :-

http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/fish/sharks...chain2005.html

Of course once that is gone then we would have a small problem with the oceans in general. The instability would lead to crippled ocean ecosystems, mass extinction of ocean species and a critical depletion of marine food stocks on a world wide basis!

Finally, I dont particularly consider myself sad for knowing that. I perhaps consider myself educated.

Daren
PADI Shark Education Course Instructor

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As a Shark Education Course Instructor, there'd be a problem if you didn't.

"Overfishing species randomly, the study shows, is not as likely to cause these cascading effects."

I rest my case.

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That's a bit harsh. Think of the poor cocunt's feelings, not forgetting the break in our precious food chain.