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ABCDiamond Jan 7th 2006 11:21 am

Re: Shark attack - Brisbane waters
 
Some comments from todays paper on the subject:

Amity Point fisherman Miles Scott, owner of Fresh Local Seafood at Amity Point, said locals had long been concerned about sharks.

"We've been waiting for this for a long time. We've always thought someone was going to be taken here.

"I'm a crabber and at this time of the year massive bull sharks come over the bar.

"It's nothing to see 10 or a dozen bull sharks under our boat when we are crabbing and they are really aggressive – they are not like normal sharks."

Rod Farrell, who owns Amity Point Waterfront Cabins, said the woman had been swimming in a channel that locals avoided.

"We're forever telling little ones and tourists not to swim late in the afternoon or at night, especially in the summer," he said.



http://www.thesundaymail.news.com.au...55E902,00.html

phoenixinoz Jan 7th 2006 11:28 am

Re: Shark attack - Brisbane waters
 

Originally Posted by ABCDiamond
Some comments from todays paper on the subject:

Amity Point fisherman Miles Scott, owner of Fresh Local Seafood at Amity Point, said locals had long been concerned about sharks.

"We've been waiting for this for a long time. We've always thought someone was going to be taken here.

"I'm a crabber and at this time of the year massive bull sharks come over the bar.

"It's nothing to see 10 or a dozen bull sharks under our boat when we are crabbing and they are really aggressive – they are not like normal sharks."

Rod Farrell, who owns Amity Point Waterfront Cabins, said the woman had been swimming in a channel that locals avoided.

"We're forever telling little ones and tourists not to swim late in the afternoon or at night, especially in the summer," he said.


http://www.thesundaymail.news.com.au...55E902,00.html

Thanks for that ABCD. I did wonder if it was Bull / Tiger sharks as these were what my friend mentioned were in the Brisbane river. He too said they have a reputation for being aggressive:(

232Bar Jan 7th 2006 11:28 am

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Problem with sharks is they have to bite it to see what it is. That's why you see them biting the cages on the wildlife shows - they aren't attacking it as such, they are checking to see what it is. Unfortunately, the only way to check if it's a diver is to bite it, which doesn't often turn out good for the diver - but hey, we go into their world we have to accept it's theirs and on the whole, humans kill a damn sight more sharks than sharks kill humans. Shark feeding encourages attacks as well, same as any animal it comes to expect food when a certain activity happens ie. divers in water, food is present so you put adiverin without food the shark wonders what's going on. Not saying this was the case this time, but it happens. Pavlovs dogs syndrome basically. Most sharks are benign if you leave them alone (and I did say most - don't start throwing loads of 'quotes' about Bulls, Tigers etc).

huey Jan 7th 2006 12:01 pm

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"It's nothing to see 10 or a dozen bull sharks under our boat when we are crabbing and they are really aggressive – they are not like normal sharks."


Bull Sharks have a notorious reputation for attacking in very shallow water ie waist deep.They also are known to hunt miles upstream in rivers and are generally considered the most dangerous to humans.


Huey
:scared: :scared:

phoenixinoz Jan 7th 2006 12:21 pm

Re: Shark attack - Brisbane waters
 

Originally Posted by huey
"It's nothing to see 10 or a dozen bull sharks under our boat when we are crabbing and they are really aggressive – they are not like normal sharks."


Bull Sharks have a notorious reputation for attacking in very shallow water ie waist deep.They also are known to hunt miles upstream in rivers and are generally considered the most dangerous to humans.


Huey
:scared: :scared:

No more crabs for me then:eek:


Or is that crabbing:D

Rich and Angie Jan 7th 2006 2:06 pm

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OMG this is so frightening.... but we are in a different country now and should I suppose start to think about where we are and look out for things like this.

I had a dream last night I got bitten by a huge snake, I haven't even seen one yet but will be keeping my eyes wide open from now on!

My heart goes to the family though that have lost their girl. Its tragic.

Ang

phoenixinoz Jan 7th 2006 2:12 pm

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Originally Posted by Rich and Angie
OMG this is so frightening.... but we are in a different country now and should I suppose start to think about where we are and look out for things like this.

I had a dream last night I got bitten by a huge snake, I haven't even seen one yet but will be keeping my eyes wide open from now on!

My heart goes to the family though that have lost their girl. Its tragic.

Ang


That's exactly right Ang.

I suppose we get complacent and stop thinking after a while. Then again, I suppose we shouldn't let things get out of proportion either as there's more chance of being in a car accident than there is getting eaten /bitten by the wildlife out here.

I for one need to be more aware.....and be less complacent about things here:o

ABCDiamond Jan 7th 2006 2:21 pm

Re: Shark attack - Brisbane waters
 

Originally Posted by Rich and Angie
OMG this is so frightening.... but we are in a different country now and should I suppose start to think about where we are and look out for things like this.

I've just been telling my daughter to remember to ask the Locals where the best place to swim is.
Hope she remembers, in 10 years time when I let her out of my site.



Re the total numbers of deaths, have a look at: http://www.austmus.gov.au/factsheets/sharks.htm

Human Deaths in Australia Between 1980-1990, Inclusive
Shark Attacks 11, average per year = 1 (this may have increased slightly recently)
Bee Stings 20, average per year = 1.8
Motor Vehicle Accidents 32,772, average per year = 2,979 (This has now reduced)

BadgeIsBack Jan 7th 2006 2:48 pm

Re: Shark attack - Brisbane waters
 

Originally Posted by 232Bar
Problem with sharks is they have to bite it to see what it is. That's why you see them biting the cages on the wildlife shows - they aren't attacking it as such, they are checking to see what it is. Unfortunately, the only way to check if it's a diver is to bite it, which doesn't often turn out good for the diver - but hey, we go into their world we have to accept it's theirs and on the whole, humans kill a damn sight more sharks than sharks kill humans. Shark feeding encourages attacks as well, same as any animal it comes to expect food when a certain activity happens ie. divers in water, food is present so you put adiverin without food the shark wonders what's going on. Not saying this was the case this time, but it happens. Pavlovs dogs syndrome basically. Most sharks are benign if you leave them alone (and I did say most - don't start throwing loads of 'quotes' about Bulls, Tigers etc).

Bang on. There are alot of myths about Sharks and they are very misunderstood. Still tragic of course.

Larissa Jan 7th 2006 2:59 pm

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Originally Posted by phoenixinoz
:cool:

Ayup sunshine. Hows it goin? Hope you are feeling OK and not too warn out with the pregnancy and looking after the other two.

Happy new year BTW:)

Yep.....I've seen footage where great whites have been opened up and they've found car number plates and tyres inside them etc. Some sharks are obviously not fussy eaters:cool:

That's the thing that shocked me Larissa, the fact we very, very, very rarely hear of sharks in these waters except maybe the odd school of them seen up on the Gold Coast. It's inveitable that they are out there of course, but we forget or at least don't remind ourselves.....hence complacency. It's especially important to be mindful in places like Stradbroke island cos the beaches seem so calm and tranquil and clear and not deep at all.

These waters contain sharks and thankfully attacks are rare, but they do happen:(

My mate's husband captains one of the ferries that goes accross the island. His licence also allows him to captain private boats up the Brisbane river.

He mentioned that some years ago his "first hand" was tying up the boat when an empty cardboard box got caught on the ropes and it flicked the box into the water [Brisbane river]. He said he and his first hand nearly shit themselves when, within an instant they saw a shark come up and grab the box. It happened so fast that they couldn't beleive it. Like he said, we know there's sharks in there, we just never think about it.

BTW.....I don't think they know what kind of shark did it yet do they? I gather they have cordoned off the area and are still looking.

Poor kid. Poor parents:(

And Im dropping my son off there today:cool:

Thanks Phoenix, I am feeling so much better now and the other two are behaving ( well, most of the time!).
Try not to worry about your son, at least they will all be *much* more aware of the danger and will be less likely to take risks... although a shark going into such shallow water, that is a concern isn't it. (Sorry I meant to be reassurring but failed abismally!).
We had a hammer head shark sighted off one of our Perth city beaches, there's a spotter plane and I think they are going to try to divert it out to deeper water, but I'm not sure how they would go about that or whether it would be effective.
Take care and Happy New Year too!

Deadmeat Jan 7th 2006 4:38 pm

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When the sharks start rocking-up in taxis and coming into my living room to terrorise me when I'm trying to watch "Deal Or No Deal" then I'll complain about how awful it is and how I want the 'violent aggressive' buggers killed.

Until then I think I'll stay on my own turf.

Since we are into statistics:

Chances of shark attack when playing backyard cricket - 0.01%*

* (you can NEVER be sure)

phoenixinoz Jan 7th 2006 7:20 pm

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Originally Posted by Larissa
Thanks Phoenix, I am feeling so much better now and the other two are behaving ( well, most of the time!).
Try not to worry about your son, at least they will all be *much* more aware of the danger and will be less likely to take risks... although a shark going into such shallow water, that is a concern isn't it. (Sorry I meant to be reassurring but failed abismally!).
We had a hammer head shark sighted off one of our Perth city beaches, there's a spotter plane and I think they are going to try to divert it out to deeper water, but I'm not sure how they would go about that or whether it would be effective.
Take care and Happy New Year too!

Great to hear you are feeling much better m8;) ....

Seems it might have been up to 3 Bull sharks who killed this young lady. They are particularly aggressive this time of year. Apparently there were shark nets there too which in the main have been effective as locals can't remember the last time anyone was killed by a shark there [over 40 + years ago I think was quoted]

Our son and his mates have had to cancel the trip as all the beaches are closed so he'll probably go sometime later. I'm not *worried* as such Larissa as living here means we live with some of the most dangerous animals in and off land. It's all part and parcel of living in Aus. The key I reckon is just to be aware of this and not to be complacent.

Diverting sharks with spotter planes seems a common strategy. They do it on the Gold Coast too at certain times of year when there are schools of fish attracting sharks.

BTW.....Good luck with hatching the bambino Larissa:D

Stitch Jan 7th 2006 9:13 pm

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Originally Posted by phoenixinoz
That's exactly right Ang.

I suppose we get complacent and stop thinking after a while. Then again, I suppose we shouldn't let things get out of proportion either as there's more chance of being in a car accident than there is getting eaten /bitten by the wildlife out here.

I for one need to be more aware.....and be less complacent about things here:o


We visited friends in Sydney and the kids were playing out back (in bare feet) as they would in the UK. It took a wee while and then I suddenly realised that it wasn't the UK and we need to think differently. Shoes on from then!

Cheers

Ginny

phoenixinoz Jan 7th 2006 9:31 pm

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Originally Posted by Stitch
We visited friends in Sydney and the kids were playing out back (in bare feet) as they would in the UK. It took a wee while and then I suddenly realised that it wasn't the UK and we need to think differently. Shoes on from then!

Cheers

Ginny

Do you mean outback as in in the bush Ginny or as in the back garden?

To be honest, if its in the back garden then there's probably no harm barefoot [so long as you've checked the yard]....but obviously if it's in the bush..then shoes are a must.

Kids need to have freedom out here [within reason] and going barefoot is part of the pleasure of living here I suppose. For instance my lad will still go swimming in the same water the shark attack happend....it's just I'll remind him not to be wary of his environment.

Kick yer shoes off girl and enjoy your new life here cos the pro's far outweigh the cons:D

annqldau Jan 8th 2006 6:08 pm

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I like the way the news keeps saying they are going to hunt the pack down... so if 1 splits off and they find 3 are they going to say wrong pack or same if they find 5.

Even if they find 4 are they going to kill them all and then think f**k how do we know that is the correct group of 4... :eek: .

Only way to know if it was correct pack is to kill them then split open and look for bits of arm and that might already have gone through the shark.

So are they just having open season on all Bull Sharks, saying that I'm giving them all a miss when I go diving... :scared: .


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