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bridiej Dec 15th 2004 9:20 pm

Shark attack in Adelaide
 
http://www.smh.com.au/news/National/...787207370.html

:scared:

madsad Dec 15th 2004 9:27 pm

Re: Shark attack in Adelaide
 
OMG,That sounds horrific.

Donna.

stephenwhite68 Dec 15th 2004 9:32 pm

Re: Shark attack in Adelaide
 

Originally Posted by madsad
OMG,That sounds horrific.

Donna.

If you go in the ocean, its like crossing the road !

respect it and look where u are going and hopefully u will make it across ...

never know though ...

steandleigh Dec 15th 2004 11:01 pm

Re: Shark attack in Adelaide
 
There was a fella mauled to death by a shark, off Cairns this week, bit his leg and he bled to death before they could reach Cairns Base, obviously doesn't make the news and an increased amount of sharks found / caught in local waters too.

Local lad also got mauled by a croc at Lake Tinaroo this week (just washin' his face in the water and...SNAP!!!!!)

Seems we have the lot here :- sharks, crocs and stingers, not big news tho', 'cos it's regional....

Ghostface Dec 15th 2004 11:26 pm

Re: Shark attack in Adelaide
 

Originally Posted by bridiej


This is the reason i dont go in the sea, ever. Yes i know the chances of an attack are remote but they are there, if we were meant to swim in the sea we would have webbed feet, and also would a great white shark be welcome in your house? no, well stay out of his then.

Mr Madsad

walla Dec 16th 2004 12:51 am

Re: Shark attack in Adelaide
 

Originally Posted by bridiej

You can imagine the panic I was in when the news started to dribble through. My son was out cray fishing with his pals about the same time. Different place, granted, but when the news of a shark attack anywhere dribbles through you kinda shit yourself.

SherKhan66 Dec 16th 2004 1:10 am

Re: Shark attack in Adelaide
 

Originally Posted by Ghostface
This is the reason i dont go in the sea, ever. Yes i know the chances of an attack are remote but they are there, if we were meant to swim in the sea we would have webbed feet, and also would a great white shark be welcome in your house? no, well stay out of his then.

Mr Madsad

I agree . It's their domain! However, when it's 35 degrees, then it's tempting - might just make it a paddle now!

2 great whites at once?! :scared: I reckon this is Jaws 28 material...where's that Speilberg chap? Close the beaches! That's what I reckon! - we need some serious action here.

My advice here is - BUY A POOL IN YOUR BACK YARD :D

walla Dec 16th 2004 1:26 am

Re: Shark attack in Adelaide
 

Originally Posted by SherKhan66
I agree . It's their domain! However, when it's 35 degrees, then it's tempting - might just make it a paddle now!

2 great whites at once?! :scared: I reckon this is Jaws 28 material...where's that Speilberg chap? Close the beaches! That's what I reckon! - we need some serious action here.

My advice here is - BUY A POOL IN YOUR BACK YARD :D

You'd need a big pool to go catching cray fish :D

Deadmeat Dec 16th 2004 1:30 am

Re: Shark attack in Adelaide
 

Originally Posted by Ghostface
This is the reason i dont go in the sea, ever. Yes i know the chances of an attack are remote but they are there, if we were meant to swim in the sea we would have webbed feet, and also would a great white shark be welcome in your house? no, well stay out of his then.

Mr Madsad

Bullseye! :D

I might HAVE to have a paddle though, all British-like with me knotted hankerchief and rolled-up trouser legs :cool:

walla Dec 16th 2004 1:38 am

Re: Shark attack in Adelaide
 

Originally Posted by Ghostface
This is the reason i dont go in the sea, ever. Yes i know the chances of an attack are remote but they are there, if we were meant to swim in the sea we would have webbed feet, and also would a great white shark be welcome in your house? no, well stay out of his then.

Mr Madsad

chicken :D

Ghostface Dec 16th 2004 1:40 am

Re: Shark attack in Adelaide
 

Originally Posted by Deadmeat
Bullseye! :D

I might HAVE to have a paddle though, all British-like with me knotted hankerchief and rolled-up trouser legs :cool:

i have an inbuilt thing where if any part of my body touches sea water the theme tune from Jaws starts playing in my head. My kids are young and will be raised on the coast and the chances are they will swim in the sea, i am not even comfortable with that to be honest, but how can you stop them?

While my fear of sharks is immense i cannot stop myself watching TV programmes about them, totally fascinating creatures.

MR MADSAD.

Ghostface Dec 16th 2004 1:42 am

Re: Shark attack in Adelaide
 

Originally Posted by walla1
chicken :D

Too fu**in right mate and not in the least bit scared to admit it :D

Ghostface Dec 16th 2004 1:43 am

Re: Shark attack in Adelaide
 

Originally Posted by Deadmeat
Bullseye! :D

I might HAVE to have a paddle though, all British-like with me knotted hankerchief and rolled-up trouser legs :cool:

Mate, where are you heading & when? would have PM'ed you but your PM thing is turned off?

Deadmeat Dec 16th 2004 1:45 am

Re: Shark attack in Adelaide
 

Originally Posted by Ghostface
i have an inbuilt thing where if any part of my body touches sea water the theme tune from Jaws starts playing in my head. My kids are young and will be raised on the coast and the chances are they will swim in the sea, i am not even comfortable with that to be honest, but how can you stop them?

While my fear of sharks is immense i cannot stop myself watching TV programmes about them, totally fascinating creatures.

MR MADSAD.

Can't beat nature at it's finest!

I understand your fears but I'd rather have my kid paddling in the sea than driving around the M25 to get to Woking every day.

I guess all you can do is educate and warn them of the dangers of prolonged exposure to hazardous environments.
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And do the same when they try to paddle too :D

stephenwhite68 Dec 16th 2004 1:45 am

Re: Shark attack in Adelaide
 

Originally Posted by Ghostface
Mate, where are you heading & when? would have PM'ed you but your PM thing is turned off?

I refuse to have spent all this time and effort to get there and i'll be blowed if im not going to enjoy every moment, hence i am going to swim and surf !

Deadmeat Dec 16th 2004 1:48 am

Re: Shark attack in Adelaide
 

Originally Posted by Ghostface
Mate, where are you heading & when? would have PM'ed you but your PM thing is turned off?

2nd Jan offski, Heathrow ---> Singapore ---> Bar ---> Brisbane :D

I don't do the PM thing but I'll be in touch on the other side somehow :) When is your departure?

Ghostface Dec 16th 2004 1:51 am

Re: Shark attack in Adelaide
 

Originally Posted by stephenwhite68
I refuse to have spent all this time and effort to get there and i'll be blowed if im not going to enjoy every moment, hence i am going to swim and surf !

I totally agree, each to there own and i hope you enjoy your swimming & surfing, however my idea of enjoyment is sitting in the sun drinking beer while a steak the size of a cows arse BBQ'S beside me.

My desire to swim rarely defeats my fear of being eaten by a shark.

Ghostface Dec 16th 2004 1:55 am

Re: Shark attack in Adelaide
 

Originally Posted by Deadmeat
2nd Jan offski, Heathrow ---> Singapore ---> Bar ---> Brisbane :D

I don't do the PM thing but I'll be in touch on the other side somehow :) When is your departure?

either 19-20-21 of Jan To Brissy, want to meet & drink beer when we get there?

Deadmeat Dec 16th 2004 2:03 am

Re: Shark attack in Adelaide
 

Originally Posted by Ghostface
either 19-20-21 of Jan To Brissy, want to meet & drink beer when we get there?

Sound good, I'll get myself settled-in and put a shout out to anyone in the area :) :beer:

Ghostface Dec 16th 2004 2:08 am

Re: Shark attack in Adelaide
 

Originally Posted by Deadmeat
Sound good, I'll get myself settled-in and put a shout out to anyone in the area :) :beer:

excellent, what do you plan to do to earn your beer tokens?

Deadmeat Dec 16th 2004 2:14 am

Re: Shark attack in Adelaide
 

Originally Posted by Ghostface
excellent, what do you plan to do to earn your beer tokens?

Anything initially, not fussed as long as it brings in some cash ... well, within reason. :)

I'm an IT guy by trade so I'll be looking for something in that line more permanently but it might be tricky initially, from what I know about the market anyway.

Ghostface Dec 16th 2004 2:50 am

Re: Shark attack in Adelaide
 

Originally Posted by Deadmeat
Anything initially, not fussed as long as it brings in some cash ... well, within reason. :)

I'm an IT guy by trade so I'll be looking for something in that line more permanently but it might be tricky initially, from what I know about the market anyway.

Sound, as long as you are willing you will get something. Cheers for now mate.

Adios.

windsurfer uk Dec 16th 2004 6:43 am

Re: Shark attack in Adelaide
 

Originally Posted by bridiej

Was there not another instance of two sharks killing a surfer off of Esperance few months ago? They said then it was highly unusual for sharks to work in pairs, would they have been the same ones? both along the bottom part of Oz. White sharks travel huge distances it is believed.

Regards Windsurfer uk...soon to be windsurfer Oz ... now we have visa!

bondipom Dec 16th 2004 7:44 am

Re: Shark attack in Adelaide
 
The bloke killed in cairns was spear fishing. The fish blood and vibrations from the fish attracted the sharks. Spear fishing is pretty crap and not much sport so hopefully the incident will deter a few more.

The Adelaide incident was just one of those things. Drowning and a collision with the surfboard is a much more likely occurence.

Mercedes Dec 16th 2004 7:59 am

Re: Shark attack in Adelaide
 

Originally Posted by bondipom
The bloke killed in cairns was spear fishing. The fish blood and vibrations from the fish attracted the sharks. Spear fishing is pretty crap and not much sport so hopefully the incident will deter a few more.

The Adelaide incident was just one of those things. Drowning and a collision with the surfboard is a much more likely occurence.

Adelaide is a breeding ground for Great Whites, therefore you are probably more likely to be attacked there.

wombat42 Dec 16th 2004 8:16 am

Re: Shark attack in Adelaide
 

Originally Posted by SherKhan66
I agree . It's their domain! However, when it's 35 degrees, then it's tempting - might just make it a paddle now!

2 great whites at once?! :scared: I reckon this is Jaws 28 material...where's that Speilberg chap? Close the beaches! That's what I reckon! - we need some serious action here.

My advice here is - BUY A POOL IN YOUR BACK YARD :D

Its safe to take a paddle, or swim in water to a depth up to your height,
the shark attack happened 300 meters out at sea,
the last shark attack at an Adelaide beach happened in 1991 also way off the shore. Shark attacks are freak events and make headline news when they happen unlike drownings which are far more common. Almost all the shark attack happen far offshore not to people swimming close to shore where sharks are affraid to venture. You are far more likely to be struck by lightning then attacked by the shark, shown by the fact that the last shark attack in Adelaide happened 13 years ago. You are stupid if you let a fear of sharks prevent you enjoying swimming at he beach, your 1,000 times more likely to be killed in a car accident driving to the beach. As BondiPom mentioned if you look at the statistics more people are killed after been hit by loose surfboards or collosions with other surfers in the surf then sharks.

Ceri Dec 16th 2004 12:00 pm

Re: Shark attack in Adelaide
 

Originally Posted by wombat42
Its safe to take a paddle, or swim in water to a depth up to your height,


Habitat
Attacks (%)


Offshore Waters
65.8

Nearshore Waters
34.2

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Those above are just stats of "divers" not swimmers , nearshore is beaches, shore line etc etc.

34.2% are near shore.

Wombat you're talking absolutely cobblers when you say neck deep is safe. I fish for sharks , how many sharks have you caught?

I can tell you now that sharks can be in just a few feet of water and not just deep water. I've catch, and have enough of them in shallows to know that.





another graph from the International Shark Attack File great white attacks only:

http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/fish/Sharks/White/Depth.htm

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Bull sharks
http://www.theadvertiser.news.com.au...55E421,00.html

and who can forget the little American kid a few years back, who was attacked by a big bull shark in a few feet of water on a beach.

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oh and here is the Gold coast feeding Frenzy that happened a few years back that I was talking about. They were in very close to shore, a few were swimming right up into the shallows - knee deep. some of them exposing half of their bodies in the process on the shoreline . you ought to have seen it.. ooh perhaps you didn't, You would have seen it on the national news when it happened, you didn't have to been up here in the state of QLD to have seen it.

The beaches down there are netted by the way.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/an...00/1879906.stmSome of the predators were up to three metres long and gave people paddling off the Gold Coast the shock of their lives.






when you say sharks do not attack in shallow water you're taking absolutely cobblers. I haven't got my books on me at the moment, but I suggest reading some decent ones. One of the ones which is an excellent source is by coppleson ( DR) . It was the first comprehensive, scientific study on attacks which was written ( you'll have to track one down they don't tend to sell them in general bookshops) , and still is referred to today by most experts. It will give you the study on temps , depth etc etc.




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http://www.surviveoutdoors.com/refer...rk_attacks.asp

Humans are most often attacked in shallow water, but usually beyond the breaker.

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http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2004/s1152301.htm

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Great Whites
Shallow water appears to offer no safe haven, as attacks have been recorded in two metres of water.

http://users.senet.com.au/~gittins/white%20pointer.html

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http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s1042617.htm

oh and

Shark nets are put in place to protect swimmers and surfers.. i.e. shallow water users.


Mackay -Margaret Hobbs - waist deep water, splashing around , washing the sand off herself - attacked , arm was ripped off -she died later.



John Andrews he was in just 0.6 metres of water , a 3 metre shark attacked him . the shark's body was fully exposed the water was so shallow , john was rescued but later died the next day - this was at Noosa..


want me to name a few more?




But the chances that you're likely to be attacked is very low. When shark attacks it always makes worldwide headlines. when a person drowns it does not.
This also depends on your habits.. a person who spear fishes is more likely to be attacked than a swimmer. A person who swims at night, dusk, or early dawn, or overcast days is more likely to be attacked than someone who has the sense not to swim at those times.
A person who swims where there are a lot drop offs and people fishing burleying up the water ,is again more likely to be attacked than one who dosen't swim in those places.

A surfer is more likely to be attacked than a non surfer.

and a person who goes into the water is more likely to be attacked than one who does not :D

renth Dec 16th 2004 12:14 pm

Re: Shark attack in Adelaide
 

Originally Posted by wombat42
... shown by the fact that the last shark attack in Adelaide happened 13 years ago. You are stupid if you let a fear of sharks prevent you enjoying swimming at he beach.

Couple of points the last Adelaide attack was 13 years ago but there has been a fatal attack in South Australia every year for the past 5 years.

You're right about the fear of sharks stopping swimming though. I think as long as you dont swim at night, dawn or dusk, in the canals around Brisbane (bull shark country) you'll be fine. If you're in to spear fishing then you are in more danger.

In this latest incident the lad was being towed behind a little motor boat, a bit like a huge, shark sized fishing lure.

Ceri Dec 16th 2004 12:24 pm

Re: Shark attack in Adelaide
 

Originally Posted by renth

In this latest incident the lad was being towed behind a little motor boat, a bit like a huge, shark sized fishing lure.

exactly, there have been a few bites of ski's in the Brisbane river, by bull sharks. luckily only small ones . The river is full of them. I wish I'd kept that article on this about the bites on the ski's . One summer here there was around 5 people complaining of this, with pictures of their ski's.


It reminds me of that South African who tows seal shape lures/boards to get the G whites to attack and breech.

podgypossum Dec 16th 2004 2:42 pm

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the dawn and dusk warning didnt apply in this case as he was taken at 3.30pm in the afternoon!!!

Ceri Dec 16th 2004 2:54 pm

Re: Shark attack in Adelaide
 

Originally Posted by podgypossum
the dawn and dusk warning didnt apply in this case as he was taken at 3.30pm in the afternoon!!!

You are more likely to be attacked at dawn or dusk.. not that you won't be attacked in the day. You can be attacked any time of day - but at dusk and dawn the chances goes up

Take for instance, if I want to catch sharks in shallow water , I don't bother during the day, I fish dusk and the night. I'll take the Brissie river. Dusk I will get bite after bite at dusk. Daytime you can still catch them but it's very slow.

peak feeding time in the shallows is dusk, night and especially run out tide when the tide turns, and starts to run out.

If I want to fish for them the during the day , I go into deeper water , drop offs in the bay with the boat.

I've never caught Great whites, I have no experience with them , but I know a man who has.

Cheers:)

Kiwipaul Dec 16th 2004 7:30 pm

Re: Shark attack in Adelaide
 

Originally Posted by Ghostface
I totally agree, each to there own and i hope you enjoy your swimming & surfing, however my idea of enjoyment is sitting in the sun drinking beer while a steak the size of a cows arse BBQ'S beside me.

My desire to swim rarely defeats my fear of being eaten by a shark.

What about your fear of being killed in a car crash, plane crash, mugged in the street, etc, all these are FAR more likely to occur than being attacked by a wild animal.

Also I hope you don't have a gas BBq as the chance of that blowing up is far more likely than a wild animal attack.

Hope you enjoy living in your cotton wool world but life is to be lived and enjoyed not hidden from because of what might happen.

I've been swiming down the GC today and barely gave the shark attack a second thought.

tinaj Dec 16th 2004 8:12 pm

Re: Shark attack in Adelaide
 
Over the past year 3 people have been killed here by sharks :

Perth - White Pointer
Adelaide- White Pointer
Cairns Reef- Bronze Whaler

Also 1 killed by a croc and 3 mauled by crocs. Way, way too many for me!! But it does not stop us going in the sea, we moved here for the lifestyle and the sea is a big part of living on the Sunshine Coast so we wont be giving it up yet. Unless sharks arrive around here that is.

The guy at Underwater World in Mooloolaba said that if you have been in the sea 5 times or more this year then you have been 15 metres away from a shark :scared: :scared:

bondipom Dec 16th 2004 8:26 pm

Re: Shark attack in Adelaide
 
I have seen reef sharks, wobbygongs and a another kind (whose name I cannot remember) whilst diving. An amazing experience.

Ghostface Dec 16th 2004 9:56 pm

Re: Shark attack in Adelaide
 

Originally Posted by wombat42
Its safe to take a paddle, or swim in water to a depth up to your height,
the shark attack happened 300 meters out at sea,
the last shark attack at an Adelaide beach happened in 1991 also way off the shore. Shark attacks are freak events and make headline news when they happen unlike drownings which are far more common. Almost all the shark attack happen far offshore not to people swimming close to shore where sharks are affraid to venture. You are far more likely to be struck by lightning then attacked by the shark, shown by the fact that the last shark attack in Adelaide happened 13 years ago. You are stupid if you let a fear of sharks prevent you enjoying swimming at he beach, your 1,000 times more likely to be killed in a car accident driving to the beach. As BondiPom mentioned if you look at the statistics more people are killed after been hit by loose surfboards or collosions with other surfers in the surf then sharks.

You are stupid if you let a fear of sharks prevent you enjoying swimming at he beach,

That is a very sweeping statement is it not? if you are scared of something you dont do it, that certainly does not make you stupid.

MR MADSAD

Ghostface Dec 16th 2004 10:01 pm

Re: Shark attack in Adelaide
 

Originally Posted by Kiwipaul
What about your fear of being killed in a car crash, plane crash, mugged in the street, etc, all these are FAR more likely to occur than being attacked by a wild animal.

Also I hope you don't have a gas BBq as the chance of that blowing up is far more likely than a wild animal attack.

Hope you enjoy living in your cotton wool world but life is to be lived and enjoyed not hidden from because of what might happen.

I've been swiming down the GC today and barely gave the shark attack a second thought.

I dont live in a cotton wool world, i just dont like swimming in the sea it is as simple as that.

Thanks for your opinion.

MR MADSAD.

walla Dec 16th 2004 11:12 pm

Re: Shark attack in Adelaide
 

Originally Posted by Ghostface
I dont live in a cotton wool world, i just dont like swimming in the sea it is as simple as that.

Thanks for your opinion.

MR MADSAD.

They have the shark, or had it but the young lads dad doesn't want it killed.

babybella Dec 17th 2004 1:20 am

Re: Shark attack in Adelaide
 

Originally Posted by walla1
They have the shark, or had it but the young lads dad doesn't want it killed.

Do they usually kill sharks after an attack on a human?
After all does the shark know that it is not supposed to bite humans?

My son loves surfing and it does worry me that when we get to Brisbane he is entering into the sharks lounge.
Surfing in Newquay he is only likely to get hypothermia!

KAZ

Ghostface Dec 17th 2004 2:08 am

Re: Shark attack in Adelaide
 

Originally Posted by kaz Hen
Do they usually kill sharks after an attack on a human?
After all does the shark know that it is not supposed to bite humans?

My son loves surfing and it does worry me that when we get to Brisbane he is entering into the sharks lounge.
Surfing in Newquay he is only likely to get hypothermia!

KAZ

There was apparently a sighting of a Great White off the coast of Padstowe last year!! :scared:

babybella Dec 17th 2004 2:37 am

Re: Shark attack in Adelaide
 

Originally Posted by Ghostface
There was apparently a sighting of a Great White off the coast of Padstowe last year!! :scared:


Prehaps I could persuade him to take up another sport.

Cheers
Kaz :scared: :scared:


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