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see'ing the uk in a different light
now that summer seems to arrived (at least this week anyway) does anyone else see the uk in a different light opposed to the gloomy winters,
the fields are green and yellow you can go out for a picnic, the countryside is beautiful,long light evenings sat outside getting dark at 10,the schools (in our area anyway)are very good,grandparents get to see the grandchildren at least once a fortnight rather than maybe once a year,i have a good job well paid,nice house blah blah blah spose what i'm trying to say is we have been planning to emigrate since last october during the winter (while perth is in the 30's and we are dropping to 1-10 degrees)but now we are approaching our summer(fingers crossed)i'm thinking is the uk really that bad,do we really need the upheavel my kids are 2 & 4 so could cope with it,but after a lovely day like this does it make anyone else question why they are leaving all that they know to fly to the other side of the world for a 'better life' which could well be on their doorstep... sorry for the waffle i'll blame that on the strongbow and the heat... :beer: karl |
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it's not just the weather
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Originally Posted by baggie
now that summer seems to arrived (at least this week anyway) does anyone else see the uk in a different light opposed to the gloomy winters,
the fields are green and yellow you can go out for a picnic, the countryside is beautiful,long light evenings sat outside getting dark at 10,the schools (in our area anyway)are very good,grandparents get to see the grandchildren at least once a fortnight rather than maybe once a year,i have a good job well paid,nice house blah blah blah spose what i'm trying to say is we have been planning to emigrate since last october during the winter (while perth is in the 30's and we are dropping to 1-10 degrees)but now we are approaching our summer(fingers crossed)i'm thinking is the uk really that bad,do we really need the upheavel my kids are 2 & 4 so could cope with it,but after a lovely day like this does it make anyone else question why they are leaving all that they know to fly to the other side of the world for a 'better life' which could well be on their doorstep... sorry for the waffle i'll blame that on the strongbow and the heat... :beer: karl The obvious response is - put yourself forward to the end of October this year!! I agree with you completely - I've always said that there's nowhere better in the world than England on a summers day. The trouble is of course is that it's so unreliable. Having said that a report in the times today suggested that England will be like the med in 50 years time. So our grand kids probably won't be emigrating to Aus for weather reasons! |
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Originally Posted by NKSK
The obvious response is - put yourself forward to the end of October this year!!
I agree with you completely - I've always said that there's nowhere better in the world than England on a summers day. The trouble is of course is that it's so unreliable. Having said that a report in the times today suggested that England will be like the med in 50 years time. So our grand kids probably won't be emigrating to Aus for weather reasons! but is moving to aus worth it just for the good weather? instead of wrapping the kids in woolys and coats they get covered in sun cream every couple of hours.. sorry for the smart arse answers but we are stock between a rock and a hard place about moving to oz and days like today been to the park,been with the grandparents/parents and makes me wonder if ourlife change could be something as simple as moving out to a rural area |
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Yes, but is'nt there more to be gained immigrating to OZ then nice weather which it has alot more of then the UK, for example OZ is a country 70 times the size of the Uk with 3 times less the population which means plenty of open spaces, less crowds, conjestion, pollution. OZ as the largest island on earth has thousands of miles of scenic, unspoilt coastline which is great for swimming, surfing etc. Oz has plenty of great national parks and a variety of scenic places and landscapes, from tropical islands and the great barrier reef and rainforests in Queensland, snowcapped mountains in NSW and Victoria etc. The cost of housing is cheaper which means many people immigrating can live in a larger house mortgage free.
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Originally Posted by aussie73
Yes, but is'nt there more to be gained immigrating to OZ then nice weather which it has alot more of then the UK, for example OZ is a country 70 times the size of the Uk with 3 times less the population which means plenty of open spaces, less crowds, conjestion, pollution. OZ as the largest island on earth has thousands of miles of scenic, unspoilt coastline which is great for swimming, surfing etc. Oz has plenty of great national parks and a variety of scenic places and landscapes, from tropical islands and the great barrier reef and rainforests in Queensland, snowcapped mountains in NSW and Victoria etc. The cost of housing is cheaper which means many people immigrating can live in a larger house mortgage free.
thx for your reply i'm not looking for an argument but just someone to counter my questions we got back from perth 6 weeks ago and have thought of nothing since the old should we go or is our life that bad that we need such a radical change other than a little tweek. oz is big yes agreed but how often do you venture further than say 10 miles from where you live in you day to day life, houses are bigger agreed but we are mortgage free in uk and have a 200k house (bought and sold the right propertys at the right time) the uk (scotland and wales included also europe now that flights are so cheap)also have some stunning coastline/history/heritage. we have lower tax free nhs (admittedly more health tourists) karl |
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Originally Posted by baggie
thx for your reply
i'm not looking for an argument but just someone to counter my questions we got back from perth 6 weeks ago and have thought of nothing since the old should we go or is our life that bad that we need such a radical change other than a little tweek. oz is big yes agreed but how often do you venture further than say 10 miles from where you live in you day to day life, houses are bigger agreed but we are mortgage free in uk and have a 200k house (bought and sold the right propertys at the right time) the uk (scotland and wales included also europe now that flights are so cheap)also have some stunning coastline/history/heritage. we have lower tax free nhs (admittedly more health tourists) karl Lucy |
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[QUOTE=baggie]but is moving to aus worth it just for the good weather?
instead of wrapping the kids in woolys and coats they get covered in sun cream every couple of hours.. No. Its not worth it just for the weather. People kept saying that to me and it made me really cross. Weather should be very low down on your list of reasons for moving to Oz. And yes having to put suncream on two kids everytime you so much as put a toe outside the door is a pain in the bum, and even after 9 months my youngest still kicks up one hell of a fuss! |
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You need to be sure in your own mind that you are doing the right thing in moving before you move otherwise you will be one of the many who question wheter they should be moving back to the UK after they get here and who eventually return.
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I would agree with NedKelly.
If you have no reason to think you'd enjoy Aus any more than UK....then why put yourself and your family through the trauma of emigrating and starting again? :confused: No matter how well off you are you are going to find yourself out of pocket, in a strange country, buying a house and maybe finding jobs. However you dress this up, it's upheaval and expenditure so in my view you have got to want it badly enough. IMHO...anyone who considers going through this who is half-hearted is going to find it much more difficult than someone who comes here with 100% commitment. Of course no one can tell who's going to make the biggest success of it. There's no way of knowing, or no known recipe for emigration success, or everyone would be 100% happy :D The only person / people who can say if it's worth the risk is you and your family Baggie. You have to make that call as it's a personal decision that's based on many variables, and everyone /every family has different reasons for emigrating. Emigration doesn't come without sacrifices of some sorts or another. Unfortunately. Is it worth it? It was for us. It's what we wanted and what we got. We took a gamble, made sacrifices and went for it and it's not been easy at times. We've been lucky...... and are happy with our "lot" :D Good luck...on whatever it is you decide. Your choice will be the right choice ;) |
Re: see'ing the uk in a different light
Originally Posted by baggie
now that summer seems to arrived (at least this week anyway) does anyone else see the uk in a different light opposed to the gloomy winters,
the fields are green and yellow you can go out for a picnic, the countryside is beautiful,long light evenings sat outside getting dark at 10,the schools (in our area anyway)are very good,grandparents get to see the grandchildren at least once a fortnight rather than maybe once a year,i have a good job well paid,nice house blah blah blah spose what i'm trying to say is we have been planning to emigrate since last october during the winter (while perth is in the 30's and we are dropping to 1-10 degrees)but now we are approaching our summer(fingers crossed)i'm thinking is the uk really that bad,do we really need the upheavel my kids are 2 & 4 so could cope with it,but after a lovely day like this does it make anyone else question why they are leaving all that they know to fly to the other side of the world for a 'better life' which could well be on their doorstep... sorry for the waffle i'll blame that on the strongbow and the heat... :beer: karl |
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Originally Posted by jad n rich
Nobody would believe till you have lived it, but when its 38 (or 2) in Perth, 44 in adelaide, a humid day in the city in brisbane, or 4 degrees in a unheated uninsulated house in Melbourne you will dream of the weather in the UK and wonder why you are in OZ :D
Nobody would believe till you have lived it, but when its minus degrees in UK, a frosty freesing day, roads gridlocked and you're stranded and can't get home....or in the mornings on your way to work when its cold and the sky is grey....and you've got a car that won't go anywhere until the windscreen defrosts ands you have to pour warm water on it cos the heater isn't quick enough.....then you will dream of the weather in Aus and wonder why you are in UK :D Brrrrrrrr :D It's all about choice. No right, no wrong. Just personal choice ;) |
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thanks for all our replies still not made our minds up but looks like another beaut day 30 degrees again in the uk,maybe a trip to stratford for a picnic by the river will help. :rolleyes:
how come making the decisision doesnt get any easier??? forgot to mention the missus is in dublin for the weekend with her mates so i got no one else to unload my confusion on karl |
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Originally Posted by Phoenixuk2oz
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Nobody would believe till you have lived it, but when its minus degrees in UK, a frosty freesing day, roads gridlocked and you're stranded and can't get home....or in the mornings on your way to work when its cold and the sky is grey....and you've got a car that won't go anywhere until the windscreen defrosts ands you have to pour warm water on it cos the heater isn't quick enough.....then you will dream of the weather in Aus and wonder why you are in UK :D Still think by the threads lately many are not prepared for the swings of OZ temps I bet 4 degree winters to 48 summers dont get factored in when movign for better weather :D |
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Originally Posted by NedKelly
You need to be sure in your own mind that you are doing the right thing in moving before you move otherwise you will be one of the many who question wheter they should be moving back to the UK after they get here and who eventually return.
Its not for me but I am very glad I came and tried it and have no regrets at all. Michaela PS Your wife missing weekends in dublin with her friends may be a much bigger issue than the weather ;) |
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Originally Posted by jad n rich
Just trying to work out who on this board wouldnt know what the UK weather is like . Still think by the threads lately many are not prepared for the swings of OZ temps I bet 4 degree winters to 48 summers dont get factored in when movign for better weather
Yep....I guess you're right re the climate changes being so drastic. Most newbies probably don't expect to get the variations of hot/cold like we do. I've even worn fleecy jimjams and taken a hot water bottle to bed these last couple of nights. Something I never thought I'd have to do in Aus :rolleyes: Bloomin cold here at night times. All's that's missing for bedtime now is me ballaclava, socks and gloves :rolleyes: Not a fetching sight.... I can tell ya :D |
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Originally Posted by jad n rich
Just trying to work out who on this board wouldnt know what the UK weather is like :confused: :D
Still think by the threads lately many are not prepared for the swings of OZ temps I bet 4 degree winters to 48 summers dont get factored in when movign for better weather :D seems the majority of people in uk could moaning as their main hobby :D with regards the missus missing weekends away thats another reason,she is really scared of the whole friend network thing and i have to admit i see where she is coming from when she says at the start she would have no one to talk to most of the day but a 4 and 2 year old,which can be fun but not the most sane of conversations. |
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Baggie
I think its difficult because the truth is theres rarely a 'right' answer or a 'wrong' answer...I suppose the best thing is to make a decision and really try to make a go of it. ...it's about weighing up what your family really want...and of course you'll never really know if Australia was a good decision until you've been and tried it! (not v helpful advise I guess!) It is a long way to come and yes it is a big upheaval! This isn't to say it isn't a wonderful country....(but then I love the UK too!)... I just can't think of many occasions when so much changes at once...new pals, jobs, homes, country, hemisphere! What I would say is, be clear of your reasons for wanting to move. And think, could you achieve the lifestyle you want closer to home? If its the weather you want, why not move elsewhere in Europe, where it would be easier to travel to see family more often? Or why not rent your house initially and just decide to give it a year or two here to see how you cope? ...or if you're reasonably financially secure, why not just sod it and have an adventure with the kids! ...or why not have another strongbow & wait til your wife gets home and talks some sense into you... :D |
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Originally Posted by baggie
makes me laugh here people already moaning about how hot it is and muggy,then they moan when it goes cold,
seems the majority of people in uk could moaning as their main hobby :D with regards the missus missing weekends away thats another reason,she is really scared of the whole friend network thing and i have to admit i see where she is coming from when she says at the start she would have no one to talk to most of the day but a 4 and 2 year old,which can be fun but not the most sane of conversations. The friend/family thing seems to be the reason lots of us go home, particularly women, its really easy to meet people here, especially with little ones, but meeting people you want to talk to is more of a challenge :p After 16 months I still talk to my close friends 2/3 times a week and its just too hard. Still dont regret it, several of my closest friends have had wonderful holidays here with us! Good luck, Michaela. |
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Originally Posted by jad n rich
Still think by the threads lately many are not prepared for the swings of OZ temps I bet 4 degree winters to 48 summers dont get factored in when movign for better weather :D It never has swings of temp in the UK from 30+ degrees in summer to -10 in winter? Thought not :rolleyes: |
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Originally Posted by MrsMangle
Baggie
I think its difficult because the truth is theres rarely a 'right' answer or a 'wrong' answer...I suppose the best thing is to make a decision and really try to make a go of it. ...it's about weighing up what your family really want...and of course you'll never really know if Australia was a good decision until you've been and tried it! (not v helpful advise I guess!) It is a long way to come and yes it is a big upheaval! This isn't to say it isn't a wonderful country....(but then I love the UK too!)... I just can't think of many occasions when so much changes at once...new pals, jobs, homes, country, hemisphere! What I would say is, be clear of your reasons for wanting to move. And think, could you achieve the lifestyle you want closer to home? If its the weather you want, why not move elsewhere in Europe, where it would be easier to travel to see family more often? Or why not rent your house initially and just decide to give it a year or two here to see how you cope? ...or if you're reasonably financially secure, why not just sod it and have an adventure with the kids! ...or why not have another strongbow & wait til your wife gets home and talks some sense into you... :D looked at europe but the language barrier would be a problem with my job (electrician in construction industry) my wife talk sense into ? she's as confused as me we have what we call oz days or uk days depending on where we feel would best to live on that day,to be honest the weather is far down our list our main priority is our kids having the best upbringing we could possibly give them whether that is in the uk or oz we cant decide,they have outdoor lifestyle,beaches and parks on hand in perth but in uk they have a big family and friends network grandparents on tap etc dont feel i need to go on you all know the pro's and cons of going or staying, people keep mentioning the space thing but out in rural areas you can get a few miles between villages and areas which are all green belt? :rolleyes: |
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Originally Posted by MrsDagboy
Of course it often gets to 48 degrees in Australia in the capital cities all the time?
It never has swings of temp in the UK from 30+ degrees in summer to -10 in winter? Thought not :rolleyes: in 33 years dont think i've ever seen a winter with -10 oh maybe that one winter i spent in alaska. ;) |
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Originally Posted by baggie
makes me laugh here people already moaning about how hot it is and muggy,then they moan when it goes cold,
seems the majority of people in uk could moaning as their main hobby :D |
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Originally Posted by jad n rich
Just trying to work out who on this board wouldnt know what the UK weather is like :confused: :D
Still think by the threads lately many are not prepared for the swings of OZ temps I bet 4 degree winters to 48 summers dont get factored in when movign for better weather :D It is 16 today and the sun is out -city friends are over- jaws are dropping when they see what we have here - and no - it is not souless where we live - right now there is no place I would rather be.. You know, I never noticed the weather in the UK - until I moved to australia - now I am interested in it - the 2 places in the world where metrology is interesting. These posts always come out on the best UK days - how many of these days do you get a year!? Apparently - few - if you believe what you read here(!) 2003 was perfect- but that - with hindsight was not usual. I have spent 2 summers in the UK in 8 years - 2000/2003 when I call home other years everyone is complaining - people who have never been to straya. BAdge |
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If you stay longer than 3 months your will have your answer.
The trouble is, its difficult to go back after awhile as you tend to miss England when your here and Aus when your there. Came for 3 months 28 years ago! |
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Originally Posted by baggie
-10?????
in 33 years dont think i've ever seen a winter with -10 oh maybe that one winter i spent in alaska. ;) Away from the coast, spells of frosty weather with clear and calm nights have produced records such as -15.0 °C at Exeter Airport on 24 January 1958 and Bastreet (Cornwall) on 1 January 1979. Yeovilton (Somerset) reported -16.1 °C on 14 January 1982. |
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It's maybe the swing in temp in one day that makes it feel cold on a night time here in Aus. Whereas in UK...it's generally either cold or warm in any one day...... rather than a mixture ;)
I think I know what I mean :confused: If anyone else does ...then could you please explain it to me :D |
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[QUOTE=Badge] Mrs D - lol- what I thought. Won't nitpick your figures! (probably averaging -3 to 22 really)
Maybe 30 on a good year, -7 (in some parts of the country) on a really bad year. It was unusually -5 in London in 1996/7 I remember. It rarely goes below 0 in the day in London. I have been keeping an eye on stats this year and Perth cops it - 37ish, the outback gets hot but 48 in capital cities is taking the piss we all know that. Badge |
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Highest recorded 38.5 °C at Brogdale, near Faversham in Kent on 10 August 2003. Lowest recorded -26.1 °C at Newport (Shropshire) on 10 January 1982. 48 degrees in Australia is not average either! ;) Interesting to know if any of the major capital cities have ever reached 48. Brisbane hasnt even come close. |
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Originally Posted by baggie
-10?????
in 33 years dont think i've ever seen a winter with -10 oh maybe that one winter i spent in alaska. ;) The highest temperature we have had here, in the last 12 months, has been 33.9 °C. By "here" I refer to Cleveland in the Redlands, also known as "Brisbane Bayside" Cleveland Weather |
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Originally Posted by Phoenixuk2oz
It's maybe the swing in temp in one day that makes it feel cold on a night time here in Aus. Whereas in UK...it's generally either cold or warm in any one day...... rather than a mixture ;)
I think I know what I mean :confused: If anyone else does ...then could you please explain it to me :D eg: If it is normally 20.0 °C in the UK, and it drops to 5.0 °C, then it feels cold ( a drop of 15°C ) So.. here in Australia if it is 35.0 °C, and it drops by the same figure of 15°C, then we will feel just as cold even though it is still 20°C here. Does that make sense ? |
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Originally Posted by ABCDiamond
It's not the actual temperature that makes us feel cold, its the Change :)
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Originally Posted by ABCDiamond
It's not the actual temperature that makes us feel cold, its the Change :)
eg: If it is normally 20.0 °C in the UK, and it drops to 5.0 °C, then it feels cold ( a drop of 15°C ) So.. here in Australia if it is 35.0 °C, and it drops by the same figure of 15°C, then we will feel just as cold even though it is still 20°C here. Does that make sense ? makes perfect sense like here in uk we been having about 15 degrees so when it jumps up to 26 like yesterday it's like someone opening the oven door, nice weather for cricket tho.. :D cant wait to see the papers tomorrow with pictures of people packed onto brighton beach like sardines in can just enough space for their 5ft by 2ft beach towel they usually use once a year when they go to benidorm... ;) |
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Good to see our panel of experts MrsD and ABC bringing some credibility to the forum. 33.something is quite low, even by Melbourne standards.
Badge |
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ha ha ha just found this link keep an eye on it should prove my point...
http://www.worldlive.cz/en/webcams-1...brighton-beach |
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[QUOTE=baggie]makes perfect sense like here in uk we been having about 15 degrees so when it jumps up to 26 like yesterday it's like someone opening the oven door [\QUOTE]
Not quite: We're talking about a swing in temp in one day here in Aus ;) |
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Originally Posted by baggie
makes perfect sense like here in uk we been having about 15 degrees so when it jumps up to 26 like yesterday it's like someone opening the oven door,
nice weather for cricket tho.. :D cant wait to see the papers tomorrow with pictures of people packed onto brighton beach like sardines in can just enough space for their 5ft by 2ft beach towel they usually use once a year when they go to benidorm... ;) |
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Originally Posted by baggie
now that summer seems to arrived (at least this week anyway) does anyone else see the uk in a different light opposed to the gloomy winters,
the fields are green and yellow you can go out for a picnic, the countryside is beautiful,long light evenings sat outside getting dark at 10,the schools (in our area anyway)are very good,grandparents get to see the grandchildren at least once a fortnight rather than maybe once a year,i have a good job well paid,nice house blah blah blah spose what i'm trying to say is we have been planning to emigrate since last october during the winter (while perth is in the 30's and we are dropping to 1-10 degrees)but now we are approaching our summer(fingers crossed)i'm thinking is the uk really that bad,do we really need the upheavel my kids are 2 & 4 so could cope with it,but after a lovely day like this does it make anyone else question why they are leaving all that they know to fly to the other side of the world for a 'better life' which could well be on their doorstep... sorry for the waffle i'll blame that on the strongbow and the heat... :beer: karl |
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Mean Surface Temperature K:
Earth 288 Moon 250 Mars 213 Minimum Surface Temperature K: Earth 184 Moon 126 Mars 161 Maximum Surface Temperature K: Earth 331 Moon 373 Mars 265 |
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Originally Posted by Megalania
Mean Surface Temperature K:
Earth 288 Moon 250 Mars 213 Minimum Surface Temperature K: Earth 184 Moon 126 Mars 161 Maximum Surface Temperature K: Earth 331 Moon 373 Mars 265 Megs...have you been drinking that Possum urine mixture again :D :D |
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