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ozzieeagle Aug 11th 2010 1:44 pm

Re: racism? exaggeration??
 

Originally Posted by SDDep (Post 8769531)
You're dillusional...lets ask some street children shall we?

Well I was taken aback when he made the statement, then I had a rethink.... He is from India and we aren't so maybe things are changing.

So MG what about the slums outside of ND.... are they still full of untouchables or not ?

BadgeIsBack Aug 11th 2010 2:01 pm

Re: racism? exaggeration??
 

Originally Posted by ozzieeagle (Post 8770957)
Well I was taken aback when he made the statement, then I had a rethink.... He is from India and we aren't so maybe things are changing.

So MG what about the slums outside of ND.... are they still full of untouchables or not ?

I expect that there are tens of, hundreds of thousands of street children.

I expect that the huge [emerging] middle class of India would not like to see things in terms of castes. It's not something they would be happy with.

mpgrewal Aug 11th 2010 2:16 pm

Re: racism? exaggeration??
 

Originally Posted by ozzieeagle (Post 8770957)
Well I was taken aback when he made the statement, then I had a rethink.... He is from India and we aren't so maybe things are changing.

So MG what about the slums outside of ND.... are they still full of untouchables or not ?

No one will like to touch someone who is smelly and unhygenic :) Slums are slowly being replaced with cheap housing. The problem is rate of population increase is outpacing rate of development.

ozzieeagle Aug 11th 2010 2:19 pm

Re: racism? exaggeration??
 

Originally Posted by mpgrewal (Post 8771025)
No one will like to touch someone who is smelly and unhygenic :) Slums are slowly being replaced with cheap housing. The problem is rate of population increase is outpacing rate of development.

Ok try the question another way, can someone from a Wealthy Family end up in these slums, through alienination... or are you generally born into them ?

mpgrewal Aug 11th 2010 2:26 pm

Re: racism? exaggeration??
 

Originally Posted by ozzieeagle (Post 8771031)
Ok try the question another way, can someone from a Wealthy Family end up in these slums, through alienination... or are you generally born into them ?

I've heard of people only upgrading from slums to houses through their hard work. Poor people who work in the city but can't afford to rent near the city, have no choice but to create a slum on a nearby govt land.

the troubadour Aug 11th 2010 2:41 pm

Re: racism? exaggeration??
 

Originally Posted by Mr Grumpy (Post 8757165)
Most of the racism you will experience will be from other immigrants and their Australian born children.

Australians practically dont exist anymore, they are going extinct. You will probably be made monkey noises by a group of Asians and you will probably be threatened by a gang of Lebs.

Aussies are the least of your worries.

Perhaps the Aussies have gone out for a smoko and not really a dying race?

the troubadour Aug 11th 2010 2:44 pm

Re: racism? exaggeration??
 

Originally Posted by spottydog (Post 8757186)
I haven't noticed Sydney being that racist (certainly no different to London) but I'm a white Pom.

Where I notice the "racism" is towards those that can't speak/write english well or can't join in a conversation about what is happening on the telly, big sports stuff etc. or those that refuse to go to the pub or are overly religious.

Low brow stuff you mean.

the troubadour Aug 11th 2010 2:46 pm

Re: racism? exaggeration??
 

Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 8757297)
I only know about three QLD Aussies, all the rest are from interstate or overseas. No one seems bothered by anyone else regardless of where they come from - unless they are complete dickheads of course. Only 'racism' I've heard personally is against Aborigines and that's only a few. Luck of the draw I guess.

Pretty much the case i found or at least on the surface anyway.

the troubadour Aug 11th 2010 2:57 pm

Re: racism? exaggeration??
 

Originally Posted by dave99 (Post 8757434)
I dont know if I would quite call it racism but in some places there is an undercurrent of dislike against anything not australian. Regardless of if your white or black you have to expect certain people to be against you if you are english or if you have any accent I think.

The majority of people are really nice but its just the odd one or two that can be a problem. I was really taken aback the first time I met someone who really had a hatred against english people, it was a bit of a shock

At the end of the day you have to understand your in their country as a guest and accept that you will bump into some idiots who might be racist, or whats the term for hating english or anything different, nationalist?

Indifference seems to be the big Australian thing i found.Some most certainly have an over inflated sense of themselves and Australia's position in the world.
The old white Ocker thing still lingers in some places like out of the way towns and outer suburbs for example.
One does at times get the feeling that political correctness impacts on what a number of folk really think.

mpgrewal Aug 11th 2010 3:00 pm

Re: racism? exaggeration??
 
Interesting angle to the racism discussion. Seems like many aussies like Asians and third worlders but don't want Kiwis / Canadians (see comments section)

Keep the Canadians out

the troubadour Aug 11th 2010 3:04 pm

Re: racism? exaggeration??
 

Originally Posted by slipper (Post 8757531)
Ok so is the main problem with Aussies against Indians is that Indians in particular do not socialise with anyone and cant speak English? Indians coming from India I honestly agree are like that in majority, the same with many Chinese people...

Is that the main dislike towards them?

If a British Indian shows even the Aussie how to drink properly in the pub, he would be OK?

Also I don't mind the odd comment because I can give it better then I get from people, but I just don't want to get beaten up by gangs! :o

I plan to stay in Sydney.

Really don't think you need to worry. Know a few Aussie Indians in Oz who have no problems at all.If you can hold your own you will be fine.

MartinLuther Aug 11th 2010 3:11 pm

Re: racism? exaggeration??
 

Originally Posted by mpgrewal (Post 8771100)
Interesting angle to the racism discussion. Seems like many aussies like Asians and third worlders but don't want Kiwis / Canadians (see comments section)

Keep the Canadians out

You do realise that the comments have been made in jest (apart from the Beaver who missed the irony)? :blink:

the troubadour Aug 11th 2010 3:29 pm

Re: racism? exaggeration??
 

Originally Posted by mohogony (Post 8765657)
Australias the most multicultural country in the world with people from every country living in peace together strange everyone overseas thinks OZ is a racist country. while countries that really are racist like Japan don't get criticised. Try immigrating to Japan if your a black African.

Australia is one of a number of different countries having various ethnic mixtures in their populations.
It has only been a relatively short time since black and Indian faces appeared in moderate numbers on the streets.

the troubadour Aug 11th 2010 3:36 pm

Re: racism? exaggeration??
 

Originally Posted by mohogony (Post 8768145)
Yes there is racism in OZ but l think its one of the least racist countries in the world. In malaysia arent the Chinese discriminated against l think theres laws where the muslims get preference for jobs and uni places. Imagine the international outrage if the OZ governemnt made a law where white Aussies get first preference for jobs and education in favour of non whites. But countries like malaysia get away with being as racist as they like and they then have the nerve to accuse oz of being racist

If Australia had minority races making up over forty percent of their population who could say what policies would be in place?
Especially if those minorities had the lions share of the business and out performed the longer inhabitants in the education stakes.
Australia would i suggest be a very different country.

the troubadour Aug 11th 2010 3:40 pm

Re: racism? exaggeration??
 

Originally Posted by ozzieeagle (Post 8767872)
I've been there and copped it..... every single visit. Mostly on arrival at rural pubs when they've seen my Vic Registered car.

The two worst places, were Goodawindi, and one suprisingly in NSW Port Macquarie.... I almost got in a fight with the PM one as my Son was with me and he was only 7 . It has never happened in Brisbane, or Sydney though.

Julia Creek in Queensland had a similar experience...nasty indeed...


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