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Old Dec 13th 2010 | 9:03 am
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Originally Posted by stormgal
I would be more afraid of racism - not from an Australian, but from another non-western immigrant to Oz. (I am American, so you can already imagine the heaps of racism against my like across the globe)

And another thing - why is it that when people think of racism, it always has to be the caucasian dishing it? If you look at India's caste system - that in itself is racism. If you look at the way the Cantonese are treated in China - that is racism. If you look at the way non-muslims and women are treated in non-western countries - that too is racism.

So people, please. Don't get me started.
Nope, the way women are treated in non-western countries is NOT racism !!! Its gender bias, its sexual discrimination, its anything but bloody racism!!! Get it right with facts and true understanding before jumping in with your own 'don't get me started' line!
 
Old Dec 13th 2010 | 9:42 am
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Originally Posted by Dorothy
Not irrelevant. You said she reported him for racial discrimination. I was asking how he discriminated against her? Did he refuse her service or was it just that he didn't like her and called her a name? If he had simply called her a slut but left out the white part would that have been ok?
Well it certainly would not have been racial discrimination.

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Old Dec 13th 2010 | 9:50 am
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Well it certainly would not have neen racial discrimination.
I must admit I am intrigued by this, what did SHE do that made him call her a slut??? Yes using the 'white' word made it racist (or maybe just confirming to her that he was recognising her race!!) but using the word slut seems pretty harsh. In my experience, and I have know a few sluts in my time () this will turn out to be a story with two sides to it of equal blame!
 
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This article appeared in today's Toronto Star suggesting racism against Asians in Australia . As to its veracity I take no position.

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/in...alian-backlash
 
Old Dec 13th 2010 | 9:57 am
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The whole fkin world is racist,get over it and close this damn boring repeditive thread,jesus wept,and he was black
 
Old Dec 13th 2010 | 10:07 am
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Originally Posted by Auld Yin
This article appeared in today's Toronto Star suggesting racism against Asians in Australia . As to its veracity I take no position.

http://www.thestar.com/news/world/in...alian-backlash
Some of the Indian media has really done a job on Australia. Through irresponsible reporting they turned some localised incidents into a torrent of abuse hurled at all Australians - and because of this I think the Australian perception of India has dropped remarkably in a short period of time.

Unfortunately a lot of Indians seem to believe their gutter press.

I sometimes wonder if the inaccurate reporting has any basis in the fallout from the "monkey" calls incident where the Indian crowd repeatably mocked Andrew Symonds (part West Indian background) by calling him a monkey.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/cricket/s...300859647.html

A lot of the students changing to Canada would also be because of the decoupling of visas from education that has happened in Australia.

Love this line:

“We’ve been recruiting overseas students for 30 years and we just haven’t seen any problems like that,” she said. “Canada’s just much more multicultural.”

http://apastdenied.ca/2009/08/09/why...cist-violence/

http://chineseinvancouver.blogspot.c...t-country.html

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Old Dec 13th 2010 | 10:22 am
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Some of the Indian media has really done a job on Australia. Through irresponsible reporting they turned some localised incidents into a torrent of abuse hurled at all Australians - and because of this I think the Australian perception of India has dropped remarkably in a short period of time.

Unfortunately a lot of Indians seem to believe their gutter press.

I sometimes wonder if the inaccurate reporting has any basis in the fallout from the "monkey" calls incident where the Indian crowd repeatably mocked Andrew Symonds (part West Indian background) by calling him a monkey.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/cricket/s...300859647.html

A lot of the students changing to Canada would also be because of the decoupling of visas from education that has happened in Australia.
Maybe it's a good thing and will deter a few from coming here (I know, Aussie racist, have my own little dark man to warm my feet on a cold winters night). Having lived in Dubai with hundreds of thousands of Indians and Pakastanis - the majority of them started to wear a bit thin. Having said that I have great Indian friends (mainly Seikh here) and great Indian friends in Dubai (the closest being Muslim). These friends are often discriminated against within their own race of people because of their religion. As most others have said, racism is a global issue, rather than one isolated to Australia.

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Old Dec 13th 2010 | 10:27 am
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Maybe it's a good thing and will deter a few from coming here (I know, Aussie racist, have my own little dark man to warm my feet on a cold winters night). Having lived in Dubai with hundreds of thousands of Indians and Pakastanis - the majority of them started to wear a bit thin. Having said that I have great Indian friends (mainly Seikh here) and great Indian friends in Dubai (the closest being Muslim). These friends are often discriminated against within their own race of people because of their religion. As most others have said, racism is a global issue, rather than one isolated to Australia.

Let those without sin cast the first stone.
Again, its blurring the lines here. Its discrimination yes, but not racial, religious discrimination. I get hacked off with people using the 'racism' card with ignorance and with malicious intent rather than focussing on the true racism issues.
The media does not help and I think those individuals who bel;ieve the media have a lack of intelligence to make their own minds up.
So, call me mediaist if you want or thickist, I just prefer to be known as intolerant!
 
Old Dec 13th 2010 | 10:28 am
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The whole fkin world is racist,get over it and close this damn boring repeditive thread,jesus wept,and he was black
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Old Dec 13th 2010 | 10:30 am
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Originally Posted by paddyo
Again, its blurring the lines here. Its discrimination yes, but not racial, religious discrimination. I get hacked off with people using the 'racism' card with ignorance and with malicious intent rather than focussing on the true racism issues.
The media does not help and I think those individuals who bel;ieve the media have a lack of intelligence to make their own minds up.
So, call me mediaist if you want or thickist, I just prefer to be known as intolerant!
But a lot of "race" issues stem from religious beliefs. If we use the Indian and Pakistani's for example, all the same race, now divided into two countries because of religious beliefs.
 
Old Dec 13th 2010 | 10:35 am
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I don't think Australians have a reputation of being racist, they have somewhat a reputation of being yokels who don't understand the fine nuances how you should speak about sensitive issues and therefore say things which sound very harsh but they don't mean any ill.

Of course that is just a stereotype and little to do with reality but it seems to me that the Aussies themselves like to nurture that impression of themselves.
 
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I don't think Australians have a reputation of being racist, they have somewhat a reputation of being yokels who don't understand the fine nuances how you should speak about sensitive issues and therefore say things which sound very harsh but they don't mean any ill.

Of course that is just a stereotype and little to do with reality but it seems to me that the Aussies themselves like to nurture that impression of themselves.
No we like to promote that we developed our own unique way of dealing with difficult communication independent of the bad influences of stilted Europe where it is polite but separate (kinda like how Koalas came about). One day you will understand it better when your minds open more.
 
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In my experience, having lived in Australia for 7 months now and having lived in New Zealand, Ireland and the UK previously I would have to say that the Australian culture is generally racist but at the same time unaware of being so.

For example, on the radio and TV here you will regularly see and hear comments generalising based on race, country or culture, the sort of thing that people would just not get away with anywhere else.

When the Commonwealth games were on for example, people would be on the radio putting on Indian accents and generally just taking the p*ss out of Indians, all in "good jest" I guess but still, some of the comments and points of view were a little shocking (I am a Kiwi and am definately not one of the PC brigade).

If I had never lived anywhere else and had grown up in Australia then I wouldn't even notice it but having lived in other developed countries which recognise the harm this sort of portrayal can cause this was all a bit of a mind opener.

The whole Australian attitude of "if you don't like it go somewhere else" is also a bit of a joke to anyone who has traveled and lived elsewhere in the world, the fact is and this is something that "Australians" will have to grasp in order to move forward is that any immigrant living in Australia has just as much right to say to an "Australian" that if they don't like it then they can move elsewhere as vice versa.

The world is becoming more and more multicultural and this is something that some people in this country have a bit of an issue understanding.

Most of my friends who have traveled and lived elsewhere, both "Australians" and others agree that Australia is a bit backward in this respect (not helped by the "dumbing down" nature of the media in this country).
 
Old Dec 13th 2010 | 11:09 am
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No we like to promote that we developed our own unique way of dealing with difficult communication independent of the bad influences of stilted Europe where it is polite but separate (kinda like how Koalas came about). One day you will understand it better when your minds open more.
Now, because you are referring to 'we' then you are obviously biased towrds the defence of the post title. Whereas I am a British Ex Pat and therefore fully able to discuss this post without having to defend this pleasant land. I think I am going to start a Nationalist thread where NO Australians are allowed to post and just keep it all to ourselves, British Ex Pats that is. You know, kinda like the whole point of the website.
 
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I disagree with the above. I have lived in the UK and to me it totally comes down to demographics....hang around bogans, or 22yo's, in any country and you get racist comments etc. I'm sure NZ has plenty of its share as well. Relative to the population, the Australia that the majority live in is as multicultural as most places and a lot more than most.
 


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