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Ex Aucklander Mar 13th 2011 11:10 am

This question is for Kiwi's`Only
 
Please tell me why you moved to Australia? I am so sick of hearing about how many have moved & continuing to move and wonder what the great attraction is about moving to Australia. If some of you could answer the following questions it would provide those left behind in New Zealand with the answers. Maybe they will all join you!

Do you love it?

Are you better off?

What do you like better about Australia than New Zealand?

What do you prefer about New Zealand to Australia?

Are you working in Australia?

Was it easy to find a job in Australia?

Have you bought a property in Australia?

If so how much Stamp Duty did you pay?

Have you bought a car in Australia?

Are cars cheaper in Australia than New Zealand?

Do you see your move as permanent?

Are you returning to live in New Zealand?

If so When?

Was moving to Australia a stepping stone to further afield like UK, USA or Europe?

Buzzy--Bee Mar 13th 2011 1:26 pm

Re: This question is for Kiwi's`Only
 

Originally Posted by Aucklander (Post 9237673)
Please tell me why you moved to Australia? I am so sick of hearing about how many have moved & continuing to move and wonder what the great attraction is about moving to Australia. If some of you could answer the following questions it would provide those left behind in New Zealand with the answers. Maybe they will all join you!

Do you love it? - Yes

Are you better off? - Yes

What do you like better about Australia than New Zealand? Developed country. Proper jobs with proper opportunities and chances of progression. Westernised economy. Not as parochial. People in Oz (Melbourne anyway) accept that there are different ways of doing things rather than the way it has always been done.

What do you prefer about New Zealand to Australia? Nothing.

Are you working in Australia? Yes

Was it easy to find a job in Australia? Yes, had 3 interviews in first week here.

Have you bought a property in Australia? Yes

If so how much Stamp Duty did you pay? Can't remember but built house so stamp duty on land only.

Have you bought a car in Australia? yes 2.

Are cars cheaper in Australia than New Zealand? Can't compare as bought 2 new cars here but could only afford 12 year old car in NZ.

Do you see your move as permanent? Yes.

Are you returning to live in New Zealand? I would rather stick knitting needles in my eyes.

If so When?

Was moving to Australia a stepping stone to further afield like UK, USA or Europe? Nope.

BB

Fluid36 Mar 13th 2011 1:37 pm

Re: This question is for Kiwi's`Only
 
Do you love it? - In some ways yes and in others not really (like anywhere), I lived in London for 6 years before coming here (Sydney) and Dublin before London and Auckland before Dublin. I prefer London to Sydney.

Are you better off? In what way?, I have a good job here but I also had good jobs in the places mentioned above.

What do you like better about Australia than New Zealand? Economy is better, weather is better.

What do you prefer about New Zealand to Australia? People are better, landscape is much more interesting,

Are you working in Australia? Yes

Was it easy to find a job in Australia? Yes, pretty easy considering the global economy.

Have you bought a property in Australia? No

If so how much Stamp Duty did you pay? NA

Have you bought a car in Australia? Yes

Are cars cheaper in Australia than New Zealand? Cars are much more expensive in Australia than New Zealand.

Do you see your move as permanent? Who knows what will happen in the future?

Are you returning to live in New Zealand? Possibly.

If so When? We will see.

Was moving to Australia a stepping stone to further afield like UK, USA or Europe? The opposite, it was somewhere to move after the UK but I see it as a stepping stone in possibly moving back to NZ (less of a shock after London as Sydney is still a big place).

Ex Aucklander Mar 13th 2011 2:19 pm

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Originally Posted by Buzzy--Bee (Post 9237855)
Do you love it? - Yes

Are you better off? - Yes

What do you like better about Australia than New Zealand? Developed country. Proper jobs with proper opportunities and chances of progression. Westernised economy. Not as parochial. People in Oz (Melbourne anyway) accept that there are different ways of doing things rather than the way it has always been done.

What do you prefer about New Zealand to Australia? Nothing.

Are you working in Australia? Yes

Was it easy to find a job in Australia? Yes, had 3 interviews in first week here.

Have you bought a property in Australia? Yes

If so how much Stamp Duty did you pay? Can't remember but built house so stamp duty on land only.

Have you bought a car in Australia? yes 2.

Are cars cheaper in Australia than New Zealand? Can't compare as bought 2 new cars here but could only afford 12 year old car in NZ.

Do you see your move as permanent? Yes.

Are you returning to live in New Zealand? I would rather stick knitting needles in my eyes.

If so When?

Was moving to Australia a stepping stone to further afield like UK, USA or Europe? Nope.

BB

Thanks for responding, interesting to see your answers.

Ex Aucklander Mar 13th 2011 2:20 pm

Re: This question is for Kiwi's`Only
 

Originally Posted by Fluid36 (Post 9237864)
Do you love it? - In some ways yes and in others not really (like anywhere), I lived in London for 6 years before coming here (Sydney) and Dublin before London and Auckland before Dublin. I prefer London to Sydney.

Are you better off? In what way?, I have a good job here but I also had good jobs in the places mentioned above.

What do you like better about Australia than New Zealand? Economy is better, weather is better.

What do you prefer about New Zealand to Australia? People are better, landscape is much more interesting,

Are you working in Australia? Yes

Was it easy to find a job in Australia? Yes, pretty easy considering the global economy.

Have you bought a property in Australia? No

If so how much Stamp Duty did you pay? NA

Have you bought a car in Australia? Yes

Are cars cheaper in Australia than New Zealand? Cars are much more expensive in Australia than New Zealand.

Do you see your move as permanent? Who knows what will happen in the future?

Are you returning to live in New Zealand? Possibly.

If so When? We will see.

Was moving to Australia a stepping stone to further afield like UK, USA or Europe? The opposite, it was somewhere to move after the UK but I see it as a stepping stone in possibly moving back to NZ (less of a shock after London as Sydney is still a big place).

Thanks for responding, interesting to see your answers.

Ex Aucklander Mar 13th 2011 2:22 pm

Re: This question is for Kiwi's`Only
 
Let's hope a few more Kiwi's reply and it may provide the reasons that the Kiwi's left behind are asking.

Bo-Jangles Mar 13th 2011 5:35 pm

Re: This question is for Kiwi's`Only
 

Originally Posted by Aucklander (Post 9237673)
Have you bought a property in Australia?

If so how much Stamp Duty did you pay?

Have you bought a car in Australia?

Are cars cheaper in Australia than New Zealand?


How very Kiwi of you choose these two very loaded questions to derive some negative content about another country, in order to make yourself feel better about NZ. The tired old stamp duty issue always arises when you talk money and taxes with a Kiwi, why do you have such a big issue with it?

Surely the other tax 'benefits', such as the ability to earn AUS$6,000 tax free, per person per year, for every year of ones working life would soon outweigh what is essentially a one off cost of buying a large asset, such as a house.

Should we still need to make up a bit of slack in the cost of capital, we could also go down the VAT 10% in Aus versus GST 15% in NZ route because for sure as eggs is eggs in NZ you will pay tax on them, along with GST on top of your household rates and every other expense that comes out of one's NZ pay packet.

bcworld Mar 13th 2011 5:38 pm

Re: This question is for Kiwi's`Only
 

Originally Posted by Bo-Jangles (Post 9238176)
How very Kiwi of you choose these two very loaded questions to derive some negative content about another country, in order to make yourself feel better about NZ.

I didn't bother to check but have to say I did assume these were loaded questions in some way. :D

Buzzy--Bee Mar 13th 2011 5:38 pm

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Originally Posted by Bo-Jangles (Post 9238176)
Surely the other tax 'benefits', such as the ability to earn AUS$6,000 per per person, per year, for every year of ones working life

....tax free I think you meant to add.

Plus all the tax offsets you get for education, investment property, etc.

BB

IvanM Mar 13th 2011 5:40 pm

Re: This question is for Kiwi's`Only
 
It is not NZ and thank f&** for that. And the accent is not as silly.

Originally Posted by Aucklander (Post 9237673)
Please tell me why you moved to Australia? I am so sick of hearing about how many have moved & continuing to move and wonder what the great attraction is about moving to Australia. If some of you could answer the following questions it would provide those left behind in New Zealand with the answers. Maybe they will all join you!


Vash the Stampede Mar 13th 2011 5:47 pm

Re: This question is for Kiwi's`Only
 

Originally Posted by Fluid36 (Post 9237864)
Are cars cheaper in Australia than New Zealand? Cars are much more expensive in Australia than New Zealand.

This surprises me. It's hard to see why cars would be "much more expensive" in Australia. Can you provide some like-for-like examples?

Amazulu Mar 13th 2011 5:47 pm

Re: This question is for Kiwi's`Only
 

Originally Posted by IvanM (Post 9238186)
It is not NZ and thank f&** for that. And the accent is not as silly.

:D

One of the big advantages of living in Australia over NZ - your kids don't grow up with that wanker Kiwi accent

Amazulu Mar 13th 2011 5:49 pm

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Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede (Post 9238194)
This surprises me. It's hard to see why cars would be "much more expensive" in Australia. Can you provide some like-for-like examples?

There's some truth in this. Because they don't have luxury car tax, I found that a lot of Mercs, BMWs etc are cheaper in NZ

Bo-Jangles Mar 13th 2011 7:27 pm

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Originally Posted by Buzzy--Bee (Post 9238183)
....tax free I think you meant to add.

Plus all the tax offsets you get for education, investment property, etc.

BB

Yes, exactly what I meant thank you, I have amended. :thumbsup:

Bermudashorts Mar 13th 2011 7:38 pm

Re: This question is for Kiwi's`Only
 

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 9238195)
:D

One of the big advantages of living in Australia over NZ - your kids don't grow up with that wanker Kiwi accent

I am only just starting to detect the difference. :)

Bo-Jangles Mar 13th 2011 8:07 pm

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Originally Posted by Bermudashorts (Post 9238332)
I am only just starting to detect the difference. :)

Have to say sometimes I really have to lusten for certain words to make sure. :rofl:

GreenMan72 Mar 13th 2011 8:31 pm

Re: This question is for Kiwi's`Only
 
Do you love it? Yes, most of the time

Are you better off? Considerably.

What do you like better about Australia than New Zealand? Wages (50% increase). Even with high cost of living much better off. Also more job opportunities.

What do you prefer about New Zealand to Australia? Ski fields and mountains

Are you working in Australia? Yes

Was it easy to find a job in Australia? Yes

Have you bought a property in Australia? Yes

If so how much Stamp Duty did you pay? Cannot remember - actually rather not remember!

Have you bought a car in Australia? Yes

Are cars cheaper in Australia than New Zealand? Not sure

Do you see your move as permanent? Yes

Are you returning to live in New Zealand? Never. Honestly cannot see NZ ever attracting me back - have high climate standards and good weather is a huge driving factor for me (actually find Sydney too cloudy - tempted to move to Perth if only I could convince my wife!!)

If so When?

Was moving to Australia a stepping stone to further afield like UK, USA or Europe? No

elice_in_oz Mar 13th 2011 10:54 pm

Re: This question is for Kiwi's`Only
 

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 9238195)
:D

One of the big advantages of living in Australia over NZ - your kids don't grow up with that wanker Kiwi accent

My three-year-old son sounds like a kiwi for some bizarre reason. He asks for fush fungers for dinner :blink::lol:

Expat Kiwi Mar 13th 2011 11:02 pm

Re: This question is for Kiwi's`Only
 

Originally Posted by Aucklander (Post 9237673)
Please tell me why you moved to Australia? I am so sick of hearing about how many have moved & continuing to move and wonder what the great attraction is about moving to Australia. If some of you could answer the following questions it would provide those left behind in New Zealand with the answers. Maybe they will all join you!

Do you love it?

Are you better off?

What do you like better about Australia than New Zealand?

What do you prefer about New Zealand to Australia?

Are you working in Australia?

Was it easy to find a job in Australia?

Have you bought a property in Australia?

If so how much Stamp Duty did you pay?

Have you bought a car in Australia?

Are cars cheaper in Australia than New Zealand?

Do you see your move as permanent?

Are you returning to live in New Zealand?

If so When?

Was moving to Australia a stepping stone to further afield like UK, USA or Europe?

:rofl: If you're sick of hearing about it
a. Stop reading it
b. Stop stirring it by asking loaded questions so you get the answers you want.

For the benefit of people who may be interested to know more than you're prepared to let them know about I'll say the following.

Why is it only outsiders (for want of a better word) that have this them-and-us attitude about the relationship between New Zealand and Australia?

Our two countries are family, literally. There are so many Kiwis living and raising families in Australia that its part of part New Zealand anyway so what's the big deal? We're like two trees that have intertwined and grown together over time. Look at our two flags, that should tell you how close we are. We're two parts of the same whole and mates not enemies. Stop being so darned territorial! :D

Movement between us is no big deal, people come and go as they need to and not all stay permanently. Many Kiwis come here to earn money when work is tight back home, stay for a few months and then flit back to NZ when the opportunities come back. Far better than going on the benny and the exchange rate at the moment so earning Oz dollars makes this a very attractive proposition. Back in 80s Britain this would've been called getting on yer bike - Norman Tebbitt style. You do remember him don't you? Here we get on the plane :D and follow the work.

You mentioned stamp duty but forgot to say that new arrivals here can claim first time buyer relief on the purchase of their home and didn't ask how people feel about that. Mostly people just deduct the cost of stamp duty from the house we're buying and haggle over the difference. Others have mentioned tax benefits so I won't go over these again.

I love my house here, its half as big again as my last home in New Zealand. They were both fairly new and built around the same time but this one is far more modern and is of a far higher spec. Its got fantastic insulation, high ceilings, a mighty powerful air conditioning system and catches the afternoon breezes on the upper floor like a dream.

As for cars I prefer the Australian system to New Zealand's. Here the roads aren't flooded with cheap secondhand Japanese imports of dubious provenance. If I'm buying secondhand I like to see things like accurate speedos, servicing log books, cabin signs in a language I can read, and an owner's manual is a big bonus. I also like to be able to check to see if it was an insurance write-off at some point in the past.

I like that all drivers here must have third party insurance and that I don't have to get a WOF every six months and can afford to get my car serviced properly instead. I hate that I have to pay CTP plus comprehensive insurance because can't see why Comp doesn't include CTP

You see these things are a lot more complex than you give them credit for.

Ex Aucklander Mar 14th 2011 6:22 am

Re: This question is for Kiwi's`Only
 

Originally Posted by Bo-Jangles (Post 9238176)
How very Kiwi of you choose these two very loaded questions to derive some negative content about another country, in order to make yourself feel better about NZ. The tired old stamp duty issue always arises when you talk money and taxes with a Kiwi, why do you have such a big issue with it?

Sorry but I am NOT a Kiwi, I am an Aussie. They were NOT loaded questions or posted for the reasons you suggest but merely wanting to get some answers what Kiwi's perception was of life in Australia.

Surely the other tax 'benefits', such as the ability to earn AUS$6,000 tax free, per person per year, for every year of ones working life would soon outweigh what is essentially a one off cost of buying a large asset, such as a house.

Not necessarily a one off cost I have bought & sold no fewer than 9 houses in NSW & QLD over my life & paid Stamp Duty on all of them far outweighing the Tax Free Thresh hold! Also paid Stamp Duty on every car I ever bought & every cheque I ever wrote!

Should we still need to make up a bit of slack in the cost of capital, we could also go down the VAT 10% in Aus versus GST 15% in NZ route because for sure as eggs is eggs in NZ you will pay tax on them, along with GST on top of your household rates and every other expense that comes out of one's NZ pay packet.

Will admit to the GST being higher & the fact that GST is added to every utility bill etc also.
They would apply GST to the air people breathe if they could,

Ex Aucklander Mar 14th 2011 6:25 am

Re: This question is for Kiwi's`Only
 

Originally Posted by bcworld (Post 9238182)
I didn't bother to check but have to say I did assume these were loaded questions in some way. :D

They were NOT LOADED

I was merely asking why Kiwi's had moved & what found different between the 2 countries. Why is everyone so sensitive about the topic?

Ex Aucklander Mar 14th 2011 6:27 am

Re: This question is for Kiwi's`Only
 

Originally Posted by IvanM (Post 9238186)
It is not NZ and thank f&** for that. And the accent is not as silly.

Oh very intelligent reply!

Ex Aucklander Mar 14th 2011 6:32 am

Re: This question is for Kiwi's`Only
 

Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede (Post 9238194)
This surprises me. It's hard to see why cars would be "much more expensive" in Australia. Can you provide some like-for-like examples?

I have been told that currently cars are cheaper in NZ by visiting Aussies seeing cars for sale. I do not profess to know car prices. Except I remem.ber in the 1970's cars & household appliances were much cheaper in Australia than they were in NZ & many Kiwi's used to buy small appliances whilst visiting Australia to take back to NZ with them

Ex Aucklander Mar 14th 2011 6:34 am

Re: This question is for Kiwi's`Only
 

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 9238195)
:D

One of the big advantages of living in Australia over NZ - your kids don't grow up with that wanker Kiwi accent

Thats funny because many people find other accents amusing including South Africans!

Ex Aucklander Mar 14th 2011 6:36 am

Re: This question is for Kiwi's`Only
 

Originally Posted by GreenMan72 (Post 9238413)
Do you love it? Yes, most of the time

Are you better off? Considerably.

What do you like better about Australia than New Zealand? Wages (50% increase). Even with high cost of living much better off. Also more job opportunities.

What do you prefer about New Zealand to Australia? Ski fields and mountains

Are you working in Australia? Yes

Was it easy to find a job in Australia? Yes

Have you bought a property in Australia? Yes


If so how much Stamp Duty did you pay? Cannot remember - actually rather not remember!

Have you bought a car in Australia? Yes

Are cars cheaper in Australia than New Zealand? Not sure

Do you see your move as permanent? Yes

Are you returning to live in New Zealand? Never. Honestly cannot see NZ ever attracting me back - have high climate standards and good weather is a huge driving factor for me (actually find Sydney too cloudy - tempted to move to Perth if only I could convince my wife!!)

If so When?

Was moving to Australia a stepping stone to further afield like UK, USA or Europe? No

Thank you for your honesty.

Ex Aucklander Mar 14th 2011 6:40 am

Re: This question is for Kiwi's`Only
 

Originally Posted by Expat Kiwi (Post 9238618)
:rofl: If you're sick of hearing about it
a. Stop reading it
b. Stop stirring it by asking loaded questions so you get the answers you want.

For the benefit of people who may be interested to know more than you're prepared to let them know about I'll say the following.

Why is it only outsiders (for want of a better word) that have this them-and-us attitude about the relationship between New Zealand and Australia?

Our two countries are family, literally. There are so many Kiwis living and raising families in Australia that its part of part New Zealand anyway so what's the big deal? We're like two trees that have intertwined and grown together over time. Look at our two flags, that should tell you how close we are. We're two parts of the same whole and mates not enemies. Stop being so darned territorial! :D

Movement between us is no big deal, people come and go as they need to and not all stay permanently. Many Kiwis come here to earn money when work is tight back home, stay for a few months and then flit back to NZ when the opportunities come back. Far better than going on the benny and the exchange rate at the moment so earning Oz dollars makes this a very attractive proposition. Back in 80s Britain this would've been called getting on yer bike - Norman Tebbitt style. You do remember him don't you? Here we get on the plane :D and follow the work.

You mentioned stamp duty but forgot to say that new arrivals here can claim first time buyer relief on the purchase of their home and didn't ask how people feel about that. Mostly people just deduct the cost of stamp duty from the house we're buying and haggle over the difference. Others have mentioned tax benefits so I won't go over these again.

I love my house here, its half as big again as my last home in New Zealand. They were both fairly new and built around the same time but this one is far more modern and is of a far higher spec. Its got fantastic insulation, high ceilings, a mighty powerful air conditioning system and catches the afternoon breezes on the upper floor like a dream.

As for cars I prefer the Australian system to New Zealand's. Here the roads aren't flooded with cheap secondhand Japanese imports of dubious provenance. If I'm buying secondhand I like to see things like accurate speedos, servicing log books, cabin signs in a language I can read, and an owner's manual is a big bonus. I also like to be able to check to see if it was an insurance write-off at some point in the past.

I like that all drivers here must have third party insurance and that I don't have to get a WOF every six months and can afford to get my car serviced properly instead. I hate that I have to pay CTP plus comprehensive insurance because can't see why Comp doesn't include CTP

You see these things are a lot more complex than you give them credit for.


Calm down I am an Aussie, but it seems that both the Kiwi's & the Aussie's have chips on their shoulders & that applies to sport also. Always interesting to hear one nationality sling off about the other!

Vash the Stampede Mar 14th 2011 8:03 am

Re: This question is for Kiwi's`Only
 

Originally Posted by Aucklander (Post 9239371)
I have been told that currently cars are cheaper in NZ by visiting Aussies seeing cars for sale. I do not profess to know car prices. Except I remem.ber in the 1970's cars & household appliances were much cheaper in Australia than they were in NZ & many Kiwi's used to buy small appliances whilst visiting Australia to take back to NZ with them

Amazulu has observed that luxury cars are cheaper because NZ has no luxury car tax. Apart from that exception, I don't see any evidence that cars are cheaper in NZ.

EinsteinJ Mar 14th 2011 8:15 am

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Originally Posted by Aucklander (Post 9237932)
Let's hope a few more Kiwi's reply and it may provide the reasons that the Kiwi's left behind are asking.

I just want to moving there (Melbourne) within 1 week time :). First reasons was because i liked it when i went holiday over there. I want to have mortgage in NZ but so afraid to loose my job, Or if i quit the job, i may not be able to get the same job in Auckland to support the mortgage. While in Melbourne, i can see there is an opening for at least 1 job every weeks.

regarding Nature, landscapes as well as clean air and water, there is no competition, New Zealand is the winner and i am proud of being an NZ Citizens :thumbsup:.

But for job security i just cannot deny anymore that Aussie offer better opportunities. Even the support for working class is getting better in Aussie especially if you have babies.

Car and car's maintenance are expensive in Australia, but the petrol pretty good deals compared to NZ that has been for 2.10 per litre at the moment.

This is my opinion based on what i gathered from many sources.

To sum up, I love New Zealand, but now is getting more and more expensive. The hardest part is to find the same job with same wages if i quit the current job. But it is very hard (Maybe the market too small in Fabrication and manufacturing).

I hope in the future NZ will have stamp duty and taxes for someone that buying 2nd house or buying house for investment. I see that without these taxes, the affordabilities for someone that want to buy first house is getting fade.

IvanM Mar 14th 2011 8:50 am

Re: This question is for Kiwi's`Only
 
Stick a fush in it bro.


Originally Posted by Aucklander (Post 9239373)
Thats funny because many people find other accents amusing including South Africans!


bcworld Mar 14th 2011 9:16 am

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Originally Posted by Aucklander (Post 9239357)
They were NOT LOADED

I was merely asking why Kiwi's had moved & what found different between the 2 countries. Why is everyone so sensitive about the topic?

Not sensitive at all.

The question about stamp duty just made me think. I assumed the reason you asked was because it's lower in NZ.

So I checked, and now I see there is no stamp duty in NZ...and I can see why you asked! :sneaky: :lol:

bcworld Mar 14th 2011 9:18 am

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Originally Posted by Aucklander (Post 9239373)
Thats funny because many people find other accents amusing including South Africans!

You have got a point there.

I always think 'pot, kettle' whenever he says that!

IvanM Mar 14th 2011 9:28 am

Re: This question is for Kiwi's`Only
 
Compared to the original post it is.




Originally Posted by Aucklander (Post 9239359)
Oh very intelligent reply!


Fluid36 Mar 14th 2011 10:18 am

Re: This question is for Kiwi's`Only
 

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 9238195)
:D

One of the big advantages of living in Australia over NZ - your kids don't grow up with that wanker Kiwi accent

But they will grow up a wanker.

Fluid36 Mar 14th 2011 10:22 am

Re: This question is for Kiwi's`Only
 

Originally Posted by Expat Kiwi (Post 9238618)
:rofl: If you're sick of hearing about it
a. Stop reading it
b. Stop stirring it by asking loaded questions so you get the answers you want.

For the benefit of people who may be interested to know more than you're prepared to let them know about I'll say the following.

Why is it only outsiders (for want of a better word) that have this them-and-us attitude about the relationship between New Zealand and Australia?

Our two countries are family, literally. There are so many Kiwis living and raising families in Australia that its part of part New Zealand anyway so what's the big deal? We're like two trees that have intertwined and grown together over time. Look at our two flags, that should tell you how close we are. We're two parts of the same whole and mates not enemies. Stop being so darned territorial! :D

Movement between us is no big deal, people come and go as they need to and not all stay permanently. Many Kiwis come here to earn money when work is tight back home, stay for a few months and then flit back to NZ when the opportunities come back. Far better than going on the benny and the exchange rate at the moment so earning Oz dollars makes this a very attractive proposition. Back in 80s Britain this would've been called getting on yer bike - Norman Tebbitt style. You do remember him don't you? Here we get on the plane :D and follow the work.

You mentioned stamp duty but forgot to say that new arrivals here can claim first time buyer relief on the purchase of their home and didn't ask how people feel about that. Mostly people just deduct the cost of stamp duty from the house we're buying and haggle over the difference. Others have mentioned tax benefits so I won't go over these again.

I love my house here, its half as big again as my last home in New Zealand. They were both fairly new and built around the same time but this one is far more modern and is of a far higher spec. Its got fantastic insulation, high ceilings, a mighty powerful air conditioning system and catches the afternoon breezes on the upper floor like a dream.

As for cars I prefer the Australian system to New Zealand's. Here the roads aren't flooded with cheap secondhand Japanese imports of dubious provenance. If I'm buying secondhand I like to see things like accurate speedos, servicing log books, cabin signs in a language I can read, and an owner's manual is a big bonus. I also like to be able to check to see if it was an insurance write-off at some point in the past.

I like that all drivers here must have third party insurance and that I don't have to get a WOF every six months and can afford to get my car serviced properly instead. I hate that I have to pay CTP plus comprehensive insurance because can't see why Comp doesn't include CTP

You see these things are a lot more complex than you give them credit for.

We like to give each other sh*t but when it comes down to it we've got each others back.

Fluid36 Mar 14th 2011 10:27 am

Re: This question is for Kiwi's`Only
 

Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede (Post 9239534)
Amazulu has observed that luxury cars are cheaper because NZ has no luxury car tax. Apart from that exception, I don't see any evidence that cars are cheaper in NZ.

Second hand cars are MUCH cheaper in NZ as we have Jap imports Vash. I really can't be bothered dragging up trademe / autotrader and ebay / carsales links to show you this but if you keep professing the opposite I will find time to do so.

Ex Aucklander Mar 14th 2011 10:27 am

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This was supposed to be a sensible question & a few have responded intelligently whilst all I can say for the other replies,

I am sorry you were ever allowed entry into my country. You certainly never passed any IQ test. Don't know where you hail from originally but I wish you would all go back.

Fluid36 Mar 14th 2011 10:29 am

Re: This question is for Kiwi's`Only
 

Originally Posted by EinsteinJ (Post 9239553)
I just want to moving there (Melbourne) within 1 week time :). First reasons was because i liked it when i went holiday over there. I want to have mortgage in NZ but so afraid to loose my job, Or if i quit the job, i may not be able to get the same job in Auckland to support the mortgage. While in Melbourne, i can see there is an opening for at least 1 job every weeks.

regarding Nature, landscapes as well as clean air and water, there is no competition, New Zealand is the winner and i am proud of being an NZ Citizens :thumbsup:.

But for job security i just cannot deny anymore that Aussie offer better opportunities. Even the support for working class is getting better in Aussie especially if you have babies.

Car and car's maintenance are expensive in Australia, but the petrol pretty good deals compared to NZ that has been for 2.10 per litre at the moment.

This is my opinion based on what i gathered from many sources.

To sum up, I love New Zealand, but now is getting more and more expensive. The hardest part is to find the same job with same wages if i quit the current job. But it is very hard (Maybe the market too small in Fabrication and manufacturing).

I hope in the future NZ will have stamp duty and taxes for someone that buying 2nd house or buying house for investment. I see that without these taxes, the affordabilities for someone that want to buy first house is getting fade.

You speak wisdom, good points made.

Expat Kiwi Mar 14th 2011 10:37 am

Re: This question is for Kiwi's`Only
 

Originally Posted by Aucklander (Post 9239357)
They were NOT LOADED

Don't be coy, of course they were :p


I was merely asking why Kiwi's had moved & what found different between the 2 countries. Why is everyone so sensitive about the topic?
Admit it, you're stirring it and noone is as sensitive about this are you appear to be.

Is the problem that you're getting cold feet about living in NZ? if you've got circulation problems come over here and you'll soon warm up ;)

Expat Kiwi Mar 14th 2011 10:42 am

Re: This question is for Kiwi's`Only
 

Originally Posted by Aucklander (Post 9239390)
Calm down I am an Aussie, but it seems that both the Kiwi's & the Aussie's have chips on their shoulders & that applies to sport also. Always interesting to hear one nationality sling off about the other!

I thought you were a ten pound Pom?
Why are you now writing everything in bold? its making you look strident.

EinsteinJ made a good point about New Zealand getting more and more expensive. Not good if you're on a fixed income or can't work to bring in a bit of extra cash - especially if your pension is being paid in another currency and subject to exchange rate fluctuations. If you're faced with the prospect of having to work through your retirement I'd say Australia is probably going to offer you more choices. This decision is years off for me fortunately so don't take my word for it. Best to consult a financial advisor as soon as possible.

Bellasmum Mar 14th 2011 11:34 am

Re: This question is for Kiwi's`Only
 

Originally Posted by Aucklander (Post 9239889)
This was supposed to be a sensible question & a few have responded intelligently whilst all I can say for the other replies,

I am sorry you were ever allowed entry into my country. You certainly never passed any IQ test. Don't know where you hail from originally but I wish you would all go back.

Perhaps it would have been better to clarify exactly who you wanted to answer your questions.

I am a Kiwi who has lived in Aus three times however few of your questions have any relevance to me.

Nor do they IMHO have any relevance to the thread started in the NZ forum.


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