Poms or not - that is the question!?
Jan 19th 2004 | 4:04 pm
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Confusing the English with the Scottish is bad enough (for the English) but at work a comment was made about an incompetant Irish man from a Chinese friend.
It went something like "He only got away with it because he is a Pom like his Boss". I hastily explained the difference between the English and the Irish by comparing them to the Australians and the New Zealanders.
It went something like "He only got away with it because he is a Pom like his Boss". I hastily explained the difference between the English and the Irish by comparing them to the Australians and the New Zealanders.
Jan 19th 2004 | 4:16 pm
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Originally posted by Goodpubmisser
Confusing the English with the Scottish is bad enough (for the English) but at work a comment was made about an incompetant Irish man from a Chinese friend.
It went something like "He only got away with it because he is a Pom like his Boss". I hastily explained the difference between the English and the Irish by comparing them to the Australians and the New Zealanders.
Confusing the English with the Scottish is bad enough (for the English) but at work a comment was made about an incompetant Irish man from a Chinese friend.
It went something like "He only got away with it because he is a Pom like his Boss". I hastily explained the difference between the English and the Irish by comparing them to the Australians and the New Zealanders.
This can't be true - there is no such thing as an incompetant Irish man.
My wife is a Pom and has been called such plenty of times since we arrived here - no offence is meant and once you understand that its ok. I'm Irish and I find the Aussies love us - I think they see us as natural allies!!!! Don't tell my wife................
Jan 19th 2004 | 4:21 pm
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Originally posted by NJFOZ
This can't be true - there is no such thing as an incompetant Irish man.
My wife is a Pom and has been called such plenty of times since we arrived here - no offence is meant and once you understand that its ok. I'm Irish and I find the Aussies love us - I think they see us as natural allies!!!! Don't tell my wife................
This can't be true - there is no such thing as an incompetant Irish man.
My wife is a Pom and has been called such plenty of times since we arrived here - no offence is meant and once you understand that its ok. I'm Irish and I find the Aussies love us - I think they see us as natural allies!!!! Don't tell my wife................
Jan 19th 2004 | 4:49 pm
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Originally posted by bondipom
They also love taking the piss out of you. A bit like the poms really.
They also love taking the piss out of you. A bit like the poms really.
True but after 15 years in London I have stacks of one liners to put them in their place. Biggest part about fitting into the Aussie workplace is the ability to take the piss out of others and have it taken out of you.
Jan 19th 2004 | 7:24 pm
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Originally posted by Ceri
I've always know it to be prisoners of his majesty, but I didn't want to argue with Jayr... his thingamajig avatar is boxing
..(what is that by the way Jayr?)
cheers
I've always know it to be prisoners of his majesty, but I didn't want to argue with Jayr... his thingamajig avatar is boxing
..(what is that by the way Jayr?)cheers
Its a monotreme! (wait for the pre ex-pats to work out what that means).
I was asked today by an Enlishman which part of Wales I come from and was mistaken for Irish by an Ozzie cabbie yesterday, which is starnge since I'm from Newcastle!
On the POM front, here's my contribution:
1 entry found for pommie.
pom·my or pom·mie ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pm)
n. Australian & New Zealand Offensive Slang pl. pom·mies
Used as a disparaging term for a British person, especially a recent immigrant.
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[Shortening and alteration of pomegranate, Pummy Grant, alterations of Jimmy Grant, probably rhyming alteration of immigrant.]
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Jan 19th 2004 | 10:24 pm
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Re: Poms or not - that is the question!?
The Sunday times this week stated thet you did not have to be English to be a POM. All UK people are POMS. I keep telling my husband that I am not a POM as I am welsh but he won't have any of it!
People here think I am Irish, Scottish but not Welsh or English (well I do not sound welsh so that is excusable!) but I have been told my accent is really strong and confusing. For God Sake Aussies it is a neutral southern england accent!
And I don't want to start a mass debate here but I think it is rude-they are the blooming original poms not us. Imagine calling an aboriginal or black person by a slang name-no chance and understandably so.
People here think I am Irish, Scottish but not Welsh or English (well I do not sound welsh so that is excusable!) but I have been told my accent is really strong and confusing. For God Sake Aussies it is a neutral southern england accent!
And I don't want to start a mass debate here but I think it is rude-they are the blooming original poms not us. Imagine calling an aboriginal or black person by a slang name-no chance and understandably so.
Originally posted by Ceri
Nope.
"Poms" here with me are usually English people - the only time you may get called a pom is if someone mistakes your accent for being English (if you've got a strong Scottish accent , you'll probably find you never get called a pom .. just Jock). Been here in Aus almost 7 years - and in that time I've been called a pom maybe twice - I've a weird accent, neither here, nor there , obviously it isn't English too most peoples ears - I get called a lot of things lol, but never pom/English)
It's not that derogatory, I tend to use the word myself in speaking when referring to an English person.
Depends on the way it is used. If on the odd occasion that you may get called a pom - just put them right .. calling them a kiwi usually does the trick
Maybe a Scottish person in Aus can answer you (but being a non English person in Aus.. Welsh - I can answer you with my own personal experience , no I do not get called a pom, and yes I call English people around me Poms, but never have I or any Australian I know calls an Irish, Scottish or Welsh person a pom (only by mistaken identity ) not unless I want a thump that is,lol
Anyway I have personally found that the word pom, whether it's right or wrong , usually gets referred to English people... like I said I've only been called a pom about twice in 7 years.
cheers
Nope.
"Poms" here with me are usually English people - the only time you may get called a pom is if someone mistakes your accent for being English (if you've got a strong Scottish accent , you'll probably find you never get called a pom .. just Jock). Been here in Aus almost 7 years - and in that time I've been called a pom maybe twice - I've a weird accent, neither here, nor there , obviously it isn't English too most peoples ears - I get called a lot of things
lol, but never pom/English)It's not that derogatory, I tend to use the word myself in speaking when referring to an English person.
Depends on the way it is used. If on the odd occasion that you may get called a pom - just put them right .. calling them a kiwi usually does the trick
Maybe a Scottish person in Aus can answer you (but being a non English person in Aus.. Welsh - I can answer you with my own personal experience , no I do not get called a pom, and yes I call English people around me Poms, but never have I or any Australian I know calls an Irish, Scottish or Welsh person a pom (only by mistaken identity ) not unless I want a thump that is,lol
Anyway I have personally found that the word pom, whether it's right or wrong , usually gets referred to English people... like I said I've only been called a pom about twice in 7 years.
cheers
Jan 19th 2004 | 10:47 pm
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Re: Poms or not - that is the question!?
Originally posted by faye_gillan
Just wondered are us Scottish folk also classed as Poms!?
Just wondered are us Scottish folk also classed as Poms!?
My wife went to Aberdeen University incidentally.I was taught at school in Oz that it was prisoner of his majesty (her after Victoria's reign) and as someone else pointed out this later may have been confused by some as to do with pomegranate. Supposedly the Queen's troops in the war ate pomegranates and this reinforced the prisoner of his majesty origin. The term has basically come to mean the 'enemy' at cricket (I know Mike Denness, Tony Lewis, Robert Croft etc played but it's England the team is called).
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Jan 19th 2004 | 11:05 pm
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Re: Poms or not - that is the question!?
Originally posted by melaniee
And I don't want to start a mass debate here but I think it is rude-they are the blooming original poms not us. Imagine calling an aboriginal or black person by a slang name-no chance and understandably so.
And I don't want to start a mass debate here but I think it is rude-they are the blooming original poms not us. Imagine calling an aboriginal or black person by a slang name-no chance and understandably so.
Jan 19th 2004 | 11:14 pm
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Originally posted by jayr
Its a monotreme! (wait for the pre ex-pats to work out what that means).
I was asked today by an Enlishman which part of Wales I come from and was mistaken for Irish by an Ozzie cabbie yesterday, which is starnge since I'm from Newcastle!
On the POM front, here's my contribution:
1 entry found for pommie.
pom·my or pom·mie ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pm)
n. Australian & New Zealand Offensive Slang pl. pom·mies
Used as a disparaging term for a British person, especially a recent immigrant.
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[Shortening and alteration of pomegranate, Pummy Grant, alterations of Jimmy Grant, probably rhyming alteration of immigrant.]
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Its a monotreme! (wait for the pre ex-pats to work out what that means).
I was asked today by an Enlishman which part of Wales I come from and was mistaken for Irish by an Ozzie cabbie yesterday, which is starnge since I'm from Newcastle!
On the POM front, here's my contribution:
1 entry found for pommie.
pom·my or pom·mie ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pm)
n. Australian & New Zealand Offensive Slang pl. pom·mies
Used as a disparaging term for a British person, especially a recent immigrant.
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[Shortening and alteration of pomegranate, Pummy Grant, alterations of Jimmy Grant, probably rhyming alteration of immigrant.]
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Source: The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
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Jan 19th 2004 | 11:20 pm
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Aussie's get confused with my scouse accent I've been called Jock Paddy and that welshbloke,then I tell them I've spent most of my life in Liverpool then I get Oh your a pom some with a little distain then I show them my Ireland tattoo and they are totally thrown by that but their attitude is completely different.So I.M.H.O.Iwould say that only the English are POMS or POME as in prisoner of mother England.
Jan 20th 2004 | 12:29 am
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If any scotties, taffies or paddies get called a pom make sure you tell them that is not true as you hate the bastards as much as the aussies.
Jan 20th 2004 | 12:42 am
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Originally posted by dugongs
If any scotties, taffies or paddies get called a pom make sure you tell them that is not true as you hate the bastards as much as the aussies.
If any scotties, taffies or paddies get called a pom make sure you tell them that is not true as you hate the bastards as much as the aussies.
Jan 20th 2004 | 1:01 am
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he he he-agreed 100% there!
Originally posted by dugongs
If any scotties, taffies or paddies get called a pom make sure you tell them that is not true as you hate the bastards as much as the aussies.
If any scotties, taffies or paddies get called a pom make sure you tell them that is not true as you hate the bastards as much as the aussies.
