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Old Aug 20th 2012 | 12:51 am
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We moved to Perth in 2008, returned to Scotland in 2009. Started getting itchy feet in late 2009. In between then and now we've gone back and forth in our heads, should we, shouldn't we?!? Now we have 9 months left in the visa with no chance of another shot. I'm 33 and hubby is 45. We've visited Melbourne as my OHs brother and family have recently moved there and I loved it. All I can hear is the tick tock of the visa and it's freaking me out! Some days I want to burn the bloody thing, some days I'm thankful for another option. To complicate matters I was recently diagnosed with a tumour (benign thankfully!) but this has added to my "life's too short" mantra.

Anyone else in or been in a similar situation? How did you feel when the visa finally elapsed?

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Old Aug 20th 2012 | 8:57 am
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Old Aug 20th 2012 | 10:04 am
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Originally Posted by Sandersons
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Perhaps you are literally the only people that ever did this Seriously, only you can weigh this one up. Look at it this way. You know all the facts already. You have lived in both countries. You know the deal when the visa runs out. I have experience of a visa expiring. In my case you don't regret it straight away, because you have just made the decision to let it run out and you based that decision on logic. However, as time passes you might start to question that logic and then regret the decision you made.

So advice from me would be, whatever you decide, learn to live with it and make the best of things without regret. More practically, I believe in keeping options open, so would lean towards keeping the visa alive. However, moving internationally is expensive, exhausting, and difficult in terms of establishing a new life and missing family goes without saying.

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Old Aug 20th 2012 | 10:20 am
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I don't have experience of a visa expiring, but do of ping ponging. We moved to Sydney in 2005, back to the UK in 2007 and then returned to Sydney in 2010. We moved over here originally just for the experience and returned to the UK as that's what we'd always planned to do. We arrived back in the UK in July 2007 and by the November had decided that we wanted to move back again.

In lots of ways, it's been easier making the move this time. There are definitely no rose tinted glasses about either Aus or the UK; it's been a very rational, logical move. We knew what to expect this time, which definitely made things easier. (Although I did still experience homesickness for the first couple of months after we arrived.)

I guess it depends on why you left Scotland originally and why you decided to return. Nothing either here or there really changes, so it needs you to have changed to make it different this time, I think.

Not sure that helps at all, but good luck with your decision.
 
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Close your eyes and imagine the visa gone.

If you mind does this then its time to give it another go.

I understand the pull, been there and back again, sometimes it takes a while to find what you need. Don't beat yourself up, if you want to go again, just go.

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Originally Posted by Sandersons
We moved to Perth in 2008, returned to Scotland in 2009. Started getting itchy feet in late 2009. In between then and now we've gone back and forth in our heads, should we, shouldn't we?!? Now we have 9 months left in the visa with no chance of another shot. I'm 33 and hubby is 45. We've visited Melbourne as my OHs brother and family have recently moved there and I loved it. All I can hear is the tick tock of the visa and it's freaking me out! Some days I want to burn the bloody thing, some days I'm thankful for another option. To complicate matters I was recently diagnosed with a tumour (benign thankfully!) but this has added to my "life's too short" mantra.

Anyone else in or been in a similar situation? How did you feel when the visa finally elapsed?

Thanks! Sandersons.

Can you come for a holiday to keep the visa alive, as i think if it expired you would be hard pushed to get another due to your husbands age.
 
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Can you come for a holiday to keep the visa alive, as i think if it expired you would be hard pushed to get another due to your husbands age.
Unlikely - they'd need a RRV, which in turn requires close links to Australia and in any case would only be granted for a year. Really the decision has to be stay or go.

I think whatever you do, you will have some regrets; you just have to learn to live with them and try not to think "what if....".
 
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Originally Posted by Zen10
I have experience of a visa expiring. In my case you don't regret it straight away, because you have just made the decision to let it run out and you based that decision on logic. However, as time passes you might start to question that logic and then regret the decision you made.

This is something we've thought about a lot, eventually regretting not going. Sorry, I didn't notice from your profile - are you in the UK? Did you have the chance of another visa? How did you deal with the regret at the visa expiring?

So advice from me would be, whatever you decide, learn to live with it and make the best of things without regret. More practically, I believe in keeping options open, so would lean towards keeping the visa alive. However, moving internationally is expensive, exhausting, and difficult in terms of establishing a new life and missing family goes without saying.
The only way for us to keep the visa going, I believe, is to move to Oz and become permanent residents after 4 years. But like you said this is an expensive option in many ways. Thank you for your advice, it's much appreciated!

Originally Posted by Geordie George
I don't have experience of a visa expiring, but do of ping ponging. We moved to Sydney in 2005, back to the UK in 2007 and then returned to Sydney in 2010. We moved over here originally just for the experience and returned to the UK as that's what we'd always planned to do. We arrived back in the UK in July 2007 and by the November had decided that we wanted to move back again.

Wow, that's a lot of moving. Did you do it all with a family in toe? I hope you're settled now. Do you ever have wobbles for the UK?

In lots of ways, it's been easier making the move this time. There are definitely no rose tinted glasses about either Aus or the UK; it's been a very rational, logical move. We knew what to expect this time, which definitely made things easier. (Although I did still experience homesickness for the first couple of months after we arrived.)

I'm trying so hard not to have rose tinted specs on about either place and to remind myself that, regardless of where we live, life is going to be what we make it. Being 100% honest though financially on paper it looks like madness for us to even be considering moving back to Oz. We would HAVE to make it work, there'd be no other option for us. We'd be completely broke if we tried to come back to the UK again. So logically it makes no sense really but the niggle keeps on niggling!
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Close your eyes and imagine the visa gone. If you mind does this then its time to give it another go.

Haha - there are definitely days when my mind freaks out at the thought of the visa expiring. I have nightmares that all our friends and family "leave" us here in the UK whilst they all go off to other countries to pursue a new life for themselves!!

I understand the pull, been there and back again, sometimes it takes a while to find what you need. Don't beat yourself up, if you want to go again, just go.

That's exactly what we've been doing, beating ourselves up. I'm much worse than the OH. It's almost been like self-inflicted torture. Horrible at times. Where are you at the moment? Have you found the place for you to settle?

Good luck (either way)
Thank you!

Originally Posted by Margaret3
Can you come for a holiday to keep the visa alive, as i think if it expired you would be hard pushed to get another due to your husbands age.
Margaret - as Louie says below it's not likely we can extend our visa in any way. I think once it's gone, it's gone and that's that.

Originally Posted by louie
Unlikely - they'd need a RRV, which in turn requires close links to Australia and in any case would only be granted for a year. Really the decision has to be stay or go.

I think whatever you do, you will have some regrets; you just have to learn to live with them and try not to think "what if....".
Yeah, I think you're right Louie. Once the visa runs out that's that. So, maybe it's going to be about how we deal with our regrets (either way) than anything else? I've thought "what if..." a million times over haha!!

Thanks everyone for taking the time to reply, I really appreciate it. Yet another discussion with OH to see what we come up with this time!

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Old Aug 21st 2012 | 8:32 am
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Sorry for the messy replies above - I've multi-quoted wrong! There's some replies within your quoted replies....apologies!

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I was gutted when my visa expired
But due to various circumstances I didn't go back.

If you really want to go, then do it. Yes, it may cost but at least you won't have any regrets.

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If you come back to Oz and for any reason you don't want to stay here, you can always go back to the UK.

If your visa expires you will never get back to Oz.

So if you can afford it, I'd be inclined to keep the visa alive. But then I'm speaking as one who has Oz citizenship as well as UK and has no desire to go back to the UK to live as all my children and grandchildren are over here.

As others have said, you just need to make your decision and move forward positively from there. "What if I'd done A instead of B" has to be the most pointless piece of backward thinking - you chose B, so look at all the positive results from making that choice and put A out of your mind.
 
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Originally Posted by Sandersons
Sorry for the messy replies above - I've multi-quoted wrong! There's some replies within your quoted replies....apologies!

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I think you've done really well, i've been on here for years and still cant multi-quote Goodluck whatever you decide.
 
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Basic questions:

1. Can you afford to come back.
2. Will you find jobs easily here.
3. Do you have a good standard of living there.
4. Do you own your house or are you renting.
5. What will you do with your property if you currently own it.
6. If you move back over, will you be able to afford to move back if work
etc doesn't work out as planned.
If you answer those and it's viable to come back then come back. If any of those make things awkward then stay put.
 
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No one likes the loss of an opportunity or a safety net but unless your life is broken where you are and you can afford to take a risk then don't bother trying to fix it - salve the itchy feet with nice long holidays instead. Sometimes you just have to draw a line under a lost opportunity and look forward with what you have got. No it isn't comfortable but in the long run it is just your life getting on with it while you waste time agonising over plans.

I think if you are older and potentially have health problems then Australia is not really the place you want to be TBH. (edited to say, you aren't old, of course, but your OH is knocking on a bit LOL)
 

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