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Old Jan 13th 2005, 7:22 am
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We arrived in Perth on the 20th of October and it was great to see family after 5 years To be honest, even though Perth has lovely beaches etc our family are finding it hard to adjust.

We came from cenral London and am finding Perth very slow e.g. hardly any theatres, entertainment for kids (besides the beaches) and organic vegetables - what is that! I am vegetarian and miss London food labelling.

Career-wise - My hubby who is IT feels that we came at the wrong time as jobs are scarce on this side and have been told that with the festive period over, the last week in Jan things will pick up. Me - I am a massage therapist qualified with ITEC diploma's for a few therapies and had to make over 80 phone calls :scared: locally, nationally and internationally and numerous emails for recognistion of my skills. I finally have that sorted thank goodness.
At least in a big city like Sydney, we will find work more easily (hopefully).

I really do not regret coming out here but find that Perth was possibly the wrong choice and am considering Sydney instead. I have two daughters aged 12 and 6. My oldest is also finding it quite difficult to adjust as kids here have very little freedom at that age. Parents do not allow their teenage kids to go to the local centre for an hour or two unsupervised it seems.

Not trying to sound too negative, but I want to get a few people opinions on Sydney which might be the better choice. We are planning to go out next week for a few days to see if that is the right place for us before uprooting the whole family once again!

The advice I can give to people from London immigrating is do lots and lots of research and try and come out here first before trying to settle. Family is important but hey, the place might not be the right place for you!
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Hi there
Sorry to hear you're perhaps not settling in as well as you thought you might in Perth and hope it all works out for you, am sure it will!
My partner and I are moving out to Sydney at the end of March and I was interested to read about your ITEC qualifications. I finished the ITEC course in Swedish body massage before xmas and am waiting to find out if I've passed the exams or not (fingers crossed I have!!). Was really hoping to start my own massage/alternative therapy business once we get to Sydney but wondered how you went about validating your qualifications over in Oz. I know ITEC qualifications should be internationally recognised but wondered if you had to re-register yourself there or pay any extras fees or anything? Also how easy it was to get insurance?
Congrats on finding work in that area too! Hope I will be able to do the same....
Cheers!
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Originally Posted by gordys
HI

We arrived in Perth on the 20th of October and it was great to see family after 5 years To be honest, even though Perth has lovely beaches etc our family are finding it hard to adjust.

We came from cenral London and am finding Perth very slow e.g. hardly any theatres, entertainment for kids (besides the beaches) and organic vegetables - what is that! I am vegetarian and miss London food labelling.

Career-wise - My hubby who is IT feels that we came at the wrong time as jobs are scarce on this side and have been told that with the festive period over, the last week in Jan things will pick up. Me - I am a massage therapist qualified with ITEC diploma's for a few therapies and had to make over 80 phone calls :scared: locally, nationally and internationally and numerous emails for recognistion of my skills. I finally have that sorted thank goodness.
At least in a big city like Sydney, we will find work more easily (hopefully).

I really do not regret coming out here but find that Perth was possibly the wrong choice and am considering Sydney instead. I have two daughters aged 12 and 6. My oldest is also finding it quite difficult to adjust as kids here have very little freedom at that age. Parents do not allow their teenage kids to go to the local centre for an hour or two unsupervised it seems.

Not trying to sound too negative, but I want to get a few people opinions on Sydney which might be the better choice. We are planning to go out next week for a few days to see if that is the right place for us before uprooting the whole family once again!

The advice I can give to people from London immigrating is do lots and lots of research and try and come out here first before trying to settle. Family is important but hey, the place might not be the right place for you!
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Old Jan 14th 2005, 1:17 pm
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If youre from London, then Sydney is for you. If youre from Manchester like me then Perth is ideal, yet Manchester is still busier and bigger.
 
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HI

We arrived in Perth on the 20th of October and it was great to see family after 5 years To be honest, even though Perth has lovely beaches etc our family are finding it hard to adjust.

We came from cenral London and am finding Perth very slow e.g. hardly any theatres, entertainment for kids (besides the beaches) and organic vegetables - what is that! I am vegetarian and miss London food labelling.

Career-wise - My hubby who is IT feels that we came at the wrong time as jobs are scarce on this side and have been told that with the festive period over, the last week in Jan things will pick up. Me - I am a massage therapist qualified with ITEC diploma's for a few therapies and had to make over 80 phone calls :scared: locally, nationally and internationally and numerous emails for recognistion of my skills. I finally have that sorted thank goodness.
At least in a big city like Sydney, we will find work more easily (hopefully).

I really do not regret coming out here but find that Perth was possibly the wrong choice and am considering Sydney instead. I have two daughters aged 12 and 6. My oldest is also finding it quite difficult to adjust as kids here have very little freedom at that age. Parents do not allow their teenage kids to go to the local centre for an hour or two unsupervised it seems.

Not trying to sound too negative, but I want to get a few people opinions on Sydney which might be the better choice. We are planning to go out next week for a few days to see if that is the right place for us before uprooting the whole family once again!

The advice I can give to people from London immigrating is do lots and lots of research and try and come out here first before trying to settle. Family is important but hey, the place might not be the right place for you!
Perth is perfect for us, all depends what you're looking for. We love the laid back lifestyle out here and our kids love it.

Back in the uk we felt over crowded but here is heaven, space , space, space
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Hubby in IT, I'm a vegetarian (although I have started to eat some fish , but don't do massages - well not professionally

One of the main reasons we are heading to Sydney is that Mr W is most likely to find a suitable job in his field in Sydney as many of the appropriate companies are based in Sydney.

I have been to Perth and travelled WA. I find it a nice place to visit, holiday, dive, but could not live there - too small, too remote for my liking.

The big downside for many is the cost of housing. We can afford a decent house there and that if we move elsewhere if sydney is not for us, or when we retire, or back to UK etc we are more likely to be able to afford to do so.

Hope you settle and find a place to call home soon.
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Hi...

We are moving to Perth a week tomorrow and I am in IT, I started looking for work in early 2004 and have a job starting on 1st April 2005 in Perth for an IT consultancy. From the research I have done it seems that if you can bring some good IT skills to Perth then it is not that difficult to find work as most IT people seem to head for Melbourne and Sydney hence leaving a gap in the Perth market place. Our perspective was that the most important thing for us was quality of life and hence Perth was the obvious choice, I have spent years in the London rat race and have had enough of "living to work" and am looking forward to "working to live"...but then I spent a year working in Sydney in 1996 so I have experienced that side already too.

In the end you can see which you prefer and still "re-change" your mind whenever you want.....

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Originally Posted by gordys
HI

We arrived in Perth on the 20th of October and it was great to see family after 5 years To be honest, even though Perth has lovely beaches etc our family are finding it hard to adjust.

We came from cenral London and am finding Perth very slow e.g. hardly any theatres, entertainment for kids (besides the beaches) and organic vegetables - what is that! I am vegetarian and miss London food labelling.

Career-wise - My hubby who is IT feels that we came at the wrong time as jobs are scarce on this side and have been told that with the festive period over, the last week in Jan things will pick up. Me - I am a massage therapist qualified with ITEC diploma's for a few therapies and had to make over 80 phone calls :scared: locally, nationally and internationally and numerous emails for recognistion of my skills. I finally have that sorted thank goodness.
At least in a big city like Sydney, we will find work more easily (hopefully).

I really do not regret coming out here but find that Perth was possibly the wrong choice and am considering Sydney instead. I have two daughters aged 12 and 6. My oldest is also finding it quite difficult to adjust as kids here have very little freedom at that age. Parents do not allow their teenage kids to go to the local centre for an hour or two unsupervised it seems.

Not trying to sound too negative, but I want to get a few people opinions on Sydney which might be the better choice. We are planning to go out next week for a few days to see if that is the right place for us before uprooting the whole family once again!

The advice I can give to people from London immigrating is do lots and lots of research and try and come out here first before trying to settle. Family is important but hey, the place might not be the right place for you!
Hi,
we also initially moved to perth, felt it wasn't for us, too slow, moved to Sydney , love it! Feel we made the right choice , no kids though!
good luck in your decisions!
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Originally Posted by Paul and Chloe
Hi...

We are moving to Perth a week tomorrow and I am in IT, I started looking for work in early 2004 and have a job starting on 1st April 2005 in Perth for an IT consultancy.
Hi Paul,

Myself and family, 3 kids ages 5, 3, 1 are moving to Perth in April 2005. I am also in IT, specialising currently in Oracle Financials Support and Development. I have been in contact with many of the main agencies over the last few months in Perth and making some progress.

Could I ask what IT field you are in and possibly any agencies that you found the most helpful. In my case, Hays and Rock Resourcing have been the most promising.

Would really appreciate your advise.

Cheers

PM me if you prefer.
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ITEC is internationally recognised except...- ITEC is renown for beauty therapy in the main in Australia only. I have qualifications in i.h.m. and holistic massage (same as swedish). I even contacted the director of ITEC for her to help me on this side!

In Australia, massage is classed as certificate 1V or V - IV is the basic massage requirements so that you can work independently and IV is for remedial massage. We are sort of in the middle with our ITEC qualifications! Nobody will give recognition for I.H.M. as it is not a government accredited course. What I had to do was phone numerous colleges who were willing to look at the coursework in detail and would verifiy that the qualification for massage is equivalent to IV. Some of the colleges want to charge you up to 25% of their course fee for IV before they even start looking at your paperwork or want you to do a few more modules so that you are qualified by their government accredited standards! I luckily found one college who was willing to look at it free of charge with the intention of me studying remedial massage with them. I finally have this letter!! Please note that colleges should be "government accredited" colleges if you want to be taken seriously.

The only thing is that studying in australia is radically expensive e.g. remedial massage is approx $10 000 for the course. For swedish massage you are looking at anything from $4 - 6000!

Once you have a college letter that states that you are now equivalent to e.g. IV - you can then approach a professional body e.g. AAMT who will hopefully let you join. I also phoned AAMT (one of the biggest prof bodies in Aus) and got different stories etc. As I come from a financial background, I took the bull by the horn and went higher till I got to their management level and now have a contact name who is willing to hear my story. I have applied and am waiting for their approval letter. He has assured me that he knows what he is talking about and that I will now be able to join the body successfully.

I got insurance with a company covering for basic level $1 mil for a charge of $400. Once I belong to e.g. AAMT who they recognise, the cost will be reduced by I think, 40%.

If you need any more help, send me a note, and I will try and help you as much as I can with the little I have learn't.
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The way I have coped with being a veggie in Australia is that I found a book here called "The chemical maize" by Bill Statham and costs about $13. I use this book when I go shopping and can now tell if products contain anything from animals

House price ranges vary here quite a bit. We live in Carine which is about 5-10 min from the sea and it is lovely. The average house price here is $450k +
We went to Rockingham yesterday and it is lovely but wouldn't want to live there necessarily. The hilight of the day is that we saw wild dolphins !
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Originally Posted by gordys
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We arrived in Perth on the 20th of October and it was great to see family after 5 years To be honest, even though Perth has lovely beaches etc our family are finding it hard to adjust.

We came from cenral London and am finding Perth very slow e.g. hardly any theatres, entertainment for kids (besides the beaches) and organic vegetables - what is that! I am vegetarian and miss London food labelling.

Career-wise - My hubby who is IT feels that we came at the wrong time as jobs are scarce on this side and have been told that with the festive period over, the last week in Jan things will pick up. Me - I am a massage therapist qualified with ITEC diploma's for a few therapies and had to make over 80 phone calls :scared: locally, nationally and internationally and numerous emails for recognistion of my skills. I finally have that sorted thank goodness.
At least in a big city like Sydney, we will find work more easily (hopefully).

I really do not regret coming out here but find that Perth was possibly the wrong choice and am considering Sydney instead. I have two daughters aged 12 and 6. My oldest is also finding it quite difficult to adjust as kids here have very little freedom at that age. Parents do not allow their teenage kids to go to the local centre for an hour or two unsupervised it seems.

Not trying to sound too negative, but I want to get a few people opinions on Sydney which might be the better choice. We are planning to go out next week for a few days to see if that is the right place for us before uprooting the whole family once again!

The advice I can give to people from London immigrating is do lots and lots of research and try and come out here first before trying to settle. Family is important but hey, the place might not be the right place for you!
What about Melbourne, almost the same size as Sydney, good employment
opportunities, housing more affordable. A lot of people on this forum who have been to both Sydney and Melbourne have found Melbourne a nicer place
and that it is the city that is most like the Uk, if thats a good thing.
You should also check out Melbourne as well as Sydney.

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Originally Posted by wombat42
What about Melbourne, almost the same size as Sydney, good employment
opportunities, housing more affordable. A lot of people on this forum who have been to both Sydney and Melbourne have found Melbourne a nicer place
and that it is the city that is most like the Uk, if thats a good thing.
You should also check out Melbourne as well as Sydney.
Melbourne is more affordable but other than that the cold puts a lot of people off. Sydney has more opportunity (the reason why it is more expensive) and the beach suburbs are great. Shame they cost so much. Both cities have plenty to offer the culture vultures.
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Oracle's a specialised field so you'll find it a lot easier to secure employment.

I came from an IT management position and when they do arise, I think the whole of Australia (and the world) applies for them. Downgrading my skillset puts me back a good number of years so I'm sticking to my guns for now.

The agencies in Aus go out of their way to help you "IF" they have a position on their books (Pretty much the same as the UK) Most of them advertise on the National database sites so this'll be the best place for you to go:

www.jobnet.com.au
www.careerone.com.au
www.mycareer.com.au
www.seek.com.au

From here, you'll find the agencies most relative to your field of work and you can contact them directly.

Try the Government positions as well (if you've got time on your hands to wait for responses!!)

http://www.jobs.wa.gov.au/





Originally Posted by tobidan
Hi Paul,

Myself and family, 3 kids ages 5, 3, 1 are moving to Perth in April 2005. I am also in IT, specialising currently in Oracle Financials Support and Development. I have been in contact with many of the main agencies over the last few months in Perth and making some progress.

Could I ask what IT field you are in and possibly any agencies that you found the most helpful. In my case, Hays and Rock Resourcing have been the most promising.

Would really appreciate your advise.

Cheers

PM me if you prefer.
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Originally Posted by Paul and Chloe
Hi...

We are moving to Perth a week tomorrow and I am in IT, I started looking for work in early 2004 and have a job starting on 1st April 2005 in Perth for an IT consultancy. From the research I have done it seems that if you can bring some good IT skills to Perth then it is not that difficult to find work as most IT people seem to head for Melbourne and Sydney hence leaving a gap in the Perth market place. Our perspective was that the most important thing for us was quality of life and hence Perth was the obvious choice, I have spent years in the London rat race and have had enough of "living to work" and am looking forward to "working to live"...but then I spent a year working in Sydney in 1996 so I have experienced that side already too.

In the end you can see which you prefer and still "re-change" your mind whenever you want.....

Paul
Hi Paul,

Interested to see that you managed to secure IT work from the UK, Ive been here about 3 years and managed to get a job with a local IT consultancy once id arrived, I have a friend whos in the process of applying for PR to come over and would be interested to hear what area of IT you are in and who the consultancy is your going to work for, did you secure the position directly or through an agency? I now work for one of the largest here (and in OZ) so im looking to try and find something here, but it would be good to know of other places that will consider people from overseas, who havent had prior experience in Oz
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