Perth or Queensland
Jul 17th 2007, 5:57 am
#91
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Re: Perth or Queensland
This is in no way, shape or form a dig, but I'm curious to learn just how much research you put in prior to the move ... ?
We set ourselves realistic income targets & thoroughly investigated property prices in the areas that took our fancy.
We would have loved to move into Subiaco or Fremantle but the housing costs were in our opinion way over the odds.
In general, almost always ... property will appreciate as an investment. Perth prices within the last 5 - 6 years have been rising at a pace never been seen before. I'm surprised you didn't break the bank to get on the ladder?
It's easy being wise with hindsight but our extensive research prior to departure has certainly stood us in good stead now.
If we were moving now from the UK with what we had when we did, Perth would almostly certainly not be our preferred destination.
Our original hopes & dreams of Australia 4.5 years ago when we first started looking into the emigration process was the promise of a mortgage free existance. Reality has altered all that ...
Perth would be a tough place to start now for the "average" family ...
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We set ourselves realistic income targets & thoroughly investigated property prices in the areas that took our fancy.
We would have loved to move into Subiaco or Fremantle but the housing costs were in our opinion way over the odds.
In general, almost always ... property will appreciate as an investment. Perth prices within the last 5 - 6 years have been rising at a pace never been seen before. I'm surprised you didn't break the bank to get on the ladder?
It's easy being wise with hindsight but our extensive research prior to departure has certainly stood us in good stead now.
If we were moving now from the UK with what we had when we did, Perth would almostly certainly not be our preferred destination.
Our original hopes & dreams of Australia 4.5 years ago when we first started looking into the emigration process was the promise of a mortgage free existance. Reality has altered all that ...
Perth would be a tough place to start now for the "average" family ...
3
I still think that there exists a blinkered mentality whereby those that have been successful in Perth seem to think that everybody else must be some kind of idiot not to see the apparent utopia.
I can perfectly well see why people who are very successfully financially might see Perth as some kind of wonderland. They have a nice house (houses), they can, whenever the opportunity presents itself, jet off to Singapore, Melbourne, Sydney or the UK for a refresher. They can send their kids to the best schools.
Contrast with those who earn the average wage who are trying to buy a house, who are stuck in Perth forever due to the inability to afford even a temporary escape, who are at the mercy at the state education system who can't afford private medical...I still haven't read (m)any posts from those earning $60 - 70K stating how much they love Perth. Come on - where are you all?!
I can perfectly well see why people who are very successfully financially might see Perth as some kind of wonderland. They have a nice house (houses), they can, whenever the opportunity presents itself, jet off to Singapore, Melbourne, Sydney or the UK for a refresher. They can send their kids to the best schools.
Contrast with those who earn the average wage who are trying to buy a house, who are stuck in Perth forever due to the inability to afford even a temporary escape, who are at the mercy at the state education system who can't afford private medical...I still haven't read (m)any posts from those earning $60 - 70K stating how much they love Perth. Come on - where are you all?!
Jul 17th 2007, 6:00 am
#92
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Re: Perth or Queensland
This is in no way, shape or form a dig, but I'm curious to learn just how much research you put in prior to the move ... ?
We set ourselves realistic income targets & thoroughly investigated property prices in the areas that took our fancy.
We would have loved to move into Subiaco or Fremantle but the housing costs were in our opinion way over the odds.
In general, almost always ... property will appreciate as an investment. Perth prices within the last 5 - 6 years have been rising at a pace never been seen before. I'm surprised you didn't break the bank to get on the ladder?
It's easy being wise with hindsight but our extensive research prior to departure has certainly stood us in good stead now.
If we were moving now from the UK with what we had when we did, Perth would almostly certainly not be our preferred destination.
Our original hopes & dreams of Australia 4.5 years ago when we first started looking into the emigration process was the promise of a mortgage free existance. Reality has altered all that ...
Perth would be a tough place to start now for the "average" family ...
3
We set ourselves realistic income targets & thoroughly investigated property prices in the areas that took our fancy.
We would have loved to move into Subiaco or Fremantle but the housing costs were in our opinion way over the odds.
In general, almost always ... property will appreciate as an investment. Perth prices within the last 5 - 6 years have been rising at a pace never been seen before. I'm surprised you didn't break the bank to get on the ladder?
It's easy being wise with hindsight but our extensive research prior to departure has certainly stood us in good stead now.
If we were moving now from the UK with what we had when we did, Perth would almostly certainly not be our preferred destination.
Our original hopes & dreams of Australia 4.5 years ago when we first started looking into the emigration process was the promise of a mortgage free existance. Reality has altered all that ...
Perth would be a tough place to start now for the "average" family ...
3
Has the baby popped out to say hello yet
well have fun while you try.
Jul 17th 2007, 6:17 am
#95
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Location: Carramar, Perth
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Re: Perth or Queensland
This is in no way, shape or form a dig, but I'm curious to learn just how much research you put in prior to the move ... ?
We set ourselves realistic income targets & thoroughly investigated property prices in the areas that took our fancy.
We would have loved to move into Subiaco or Fremantle but the housing costs were in our opinion way over the odds.
In general, almost always ... property will appreciate as an investment. Perth prices within the last 5 - 6 years have been rising at a pace never been seen before. I'm surprised you didn't break the bank to get on the ladder?
It's easy being wise with hindsight but our extensive research prior to departure has certainly stood us in good stead now.
If we were moving now from the UK with what we had when we did, Perth would almostly certainly not be our preferred destination.
Our original hopes & dreams of Australia 4.5 years ago when we first started looking into the emigration process was the promise of a mortgage free existance. Reality has altered all that ...
Perth would be a tough place to start now for the "average" family ...
3
We set ourselves realistic income targets & thoroughly investigated property prices in the areas that took our fancy.
We would have loved to move into Subiaco or Fremantle but the housing costs were in our opinion way over the odds.
In general, almost always ... property will appreciate as an investment. Perth prices within the last 5 - 6 years have been rising at a pace never been seen before. I'm surprised you didn't break the bank to get on the ladder?
It's easy being wise with hindsight but our extensive research prior to departure has certainly stood us in good stead now.
If we were moving now from the UK with what we had when we did, Perth would almostly certainly not be our preferred destination.
Our original hopes & dreams of Australia 4.5 years ago when we first started looking into the emigration process was the promise of a mortgage free existance. Reality has altered all that ...
Perth would be a tough place to start now for the "average" family ...
3
Jul 17th 2007, 9:12 am
#96
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Re: Perth or Queensland
This is in no way, shape or form a dig, but I'm curious to learn just how much research you put in prior to the move ... ?
We set ourselves realistic income targets & thoroughly investigated property prices in the areas that took our fancy.
We would have loved to move into Subiaco or Fremantle but the housing costs were in our opinion way over the odds.
In general, almost always ... property will appreciate as an investment. Perth prices within the last 5 - 6 years have been rising at a pace never been seen before. I'm surprised you didn't break the bank to get on the ladder?
It's easy being wise with hindsight but our extensive research prior to departure has certainly stood us in good stead now.
If we were moving now from the UK with what we had when we did, Perth would almostly certainly not be our preferred destination.
Our original hopes & dreams of Australia 4.5 years ago when we first started looking into the emigration process was the promise of a mortgage free existance. Reality has altered all that ...
Perth would be a tough place to start now for the "average" family ...
3
We set ourselves realistic income targets & thoroughly investigated property prices in the areas that took our fancy.
We would have loved to move into Subiaco or Fremantle but the housing costs were in our opinion way over the odds.
In general, almost always ... property will appreciate as an investment. Perth prices within the last 5 - 6 years have been rising at a pace never been seen before. I'm surprised you didn't break the bank to get on the ladder?
It's easy being wise with hindsight but our extensive research prior to departure has certainly stood us in good stead now.
If we were moving now from the UK with what we had when we did, Perth would almostly certainly not be our preferred destination.
Our original hopes & dreams of Australia 4.5 years ago when we first started looking into the emigration process was the promise of a mortgage free existance. Reality has altered all that ...
Perth would be a tough place to start now for the "average" family ...
3
On a perfect summer's day I think Perth is fantastic. I also think that it is a great place for young kids. Our household income isn't bad. And I have no desire to move back to the UK.
For me I have signifcant reservations about the education system here. That is just about my number one concern - primary, secondary and higher.
Secondly, I find the landscape dull and uninspiring. I've been up to Exmouth and I've been down south. Even down south - it was OK but a lot of hours to see something which was "OK". I couldn't believe how disappointed I was by Rottnest Island - having lived on the edge of the rainforest for 5 years I can't get excited by an off-shore sand dune.
The suburbs I find souless - complete monotony devoid of all character. Even those "established" suburbs like Cottesloe, Claremont and Dalkieth are, to be honest, pretty dull. (Fremantle is the one saving grace of the place). Once you get into the realms of Duncraig, Carine, Kingsley, Ocean Reef, Joondalup - it's just about impossible to tell where you are. You really could be anywhere in the Perth metro.
Perth is isolated take it or leave it. If I want to see another city I have to travel a long way. Sure, you may think that I should have known this before I moved here (I did) BUT often potential issues don't become real issues until you have lived here for 2 years.
Whilst my salary is OK, I could earn better elsewhere - especially in relation to property prices. And then I get to property prices which are just not low enough to cover all of the negatives above.
There are other niggles such as lack of Sunday opening, union powers, this state government, poor range and quality of groceries in supermarkets, the shoddy building work which goes on, the fact that by midday it's too windy for the beach...etc etc. (And these are just niggles before the true defenders of the place say "I can't believe that you want to leave because the shops aren't open on a Sunday!")
House prices are an issue but it is not the main driver for me. It's just that cheaper house prices no-longer cover up the negatives for me - they may have done 4 years ago but they don't now - because cheaper house prices don't exist.
Just on balance, I don't think that Perth is as fantastic as others think.
(BTW there also exists in some people the unthinkable. "We've made the move, we've bought a house and we will just bloody well enjoy it because we're not moving again" Perth could be like the arse-end of the universe and they still wouldn't admit that they may actually be in the wrong place for them and their family)
Jul 17th 2007, 9:33 am
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Jul 17th 2007, 11:14 am
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Re: Perth or Queensland
(BTW there also exists in some people the unthinkable. "We've made the move, we've bought a house and we will just bloody well enjoy it because we're not moving again" Perth could be like the arse-end of the universe and they still wouldn't admit that they may actually be in the wrong place for them and their family)
Jul 17th 2007, 11:35 am
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Re: Perth or Queensland
(BTW there also exists in some people the unthinkable. "We've made the move, we've bought a house and we will just bloody well enjoy it because we're not moving again" Perth could be like the arse-end of the universe and they still wouldn't admit that they may actually be in the wrong place for them and their family)
I think alot of the ''popular'' Australian landscape is overrated - I like forests and tropical sea/landscapes and the nakedness of the outback (not the beauty cos it ain't), and the VIC countryside in particular, especially as its so close to the city, but Perth's landscape would not do it for me.
Jul 17th 2007, 11:37 am
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Re: Perth or Queensland
There you go..This is so true....true of just about everyone who has built a negative or "I WILL remove your rose-tinted glasses"" opinon of this country. Not talking about Nisky now.
Jul 18th 2007, 12:38 pm
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Re: Perth or Queensland
Wishing to be balanced as ever, today was one of those days where I thought that there were few places better than Perth...
Mid-winter, 23 degrees - glorious weather, a walk along the sea front to a great cafe in Trigg for breakfast. The sea was fabulously calm with pristine blues. Ambled back, cup of tea in the garden with the newspapers, late dinner in a great restaurant SOR with lots of good beer.
Mid-winter, 23 degrees - glorious weather, a walk along the sea front to a great cafe in Trigg for breakfast. The sea was fabulously calm with pristine blues. Ambled back, cup of tea in the garden with the newspapers, late dinner in a great restaurant SOR with lots of good beer.
Jul 19th 2007, 1:03 am
#103
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Re: Perth or Queensland
Wishing to be balanced as ever, today was one of those days where I thought that there were few places better than Perth...
Mid-winter, 23 degrees - glorious weather, a walk along the sea front to a great cafe in Trigg for breakfast. The sea was fabulously calm with pristine blues. Ambled back, cup of tea in the garden with the newspapers, late dinner in a great restaurant SOR with lots of good beer.
Mid-winter, 23 degrees - glorious weather, a walk along the sea front to a great cafe in Trigg for breakfast. The sea was fabulously calm with pristine blues. Ambled back, cup of tea in the garden with the newspapers, late dinner in a great restaurant SOR with lots of good beer.
