Muzza04

Over here in Perth, in the hills and other high risk fire areas, FESA have leaflets etc, dropped in the mailboxes of said residents to remind them of there options in a bushfire area...Prepare and equip yourself to stay and fight or go. They also follow this up with door to door enquiries/discussion about it.

For FESA, they then get a good idea of who will be around when the fire is raging ...

movetoperth

[QUOTE=thatsnotquiteright]Thing is though 'zulu, is that people claim to want the 70pc but then complain about it for years.....that's the final irony.

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I don't know where you get the idea that people who live in areas with small blocks complain about it, most of the posts you see here which are less than complimentary about them are not made by people who live there. I've already explained why a smaller block suits my family but i would also add that i like being close to the Ocean, not close enough to see it and be blown away at 1130 every morning, but close enough to walk the dog on the beach and sometimes just sit and watch the ocean without having to drive for more than 5 mins to do it, i like the sea breeze coming in on warmer days, less flies etc..... My firends who live in similar areas are all quite happy too, they certainly don't moan about it and think they are missing out on something by living on a small block.

I fully understand how semi-rural appeals to many people, i have done it before albeit not in Australia, but it's not for everyone.

Lynn

Amazulu

Bushfires do not worry me even though if we had one here we would be f**ked. Kalamunda is a major population centre up here & if there was a bush fire a lot of effort would be in to stopping it. There has never been a major fire up here. The council & fire people are very proactive around here & we are well informed abut what to do. We have decided to go if these is a fire. It's only a house after all & we are over-insured. We could build a nice new house with the money. The advantages of living here far outweight the remote threat of a fire.

wavy_davy

[QUOTE=movetoperth] Totally agree with you Lynn, not a lot of expats including me & my family have a vast choice either, I feel sorry for any prospective migrants who are going to have to settle for "shitboxes" in "legoland".

canifixit

In U.K. you can use expenses such as those you mentioned (plus many more) but rent is classed as unearned income and any losses cannot be used to offset your earned income taxes.

BadgeIsBack

Disagree(!) Read the Moving back to the UK forum and time and time again it is the nature of suburbia that hits people the hardest and lack of perceived culture that really does it for people. It's in the Top 5 of 'lifestyle' complaints surely.

A house on 400m is probably the worst form of suburbia because you don't even get much of a backyard. (I know people don't complain specifically about their plot size but they do complain about surburbia - if they moved outside suburbia they might find more of what they are missing from the UK and would be alot happier)

That's the reality for some people. I've just identified a common complaint that's all.

wavy_davy

As Hutch (I think it was) said a while back, it's interesting that some migrants move from small towns (myself included) and then plonk themselves into a sprawling mass of millions and still expect to be happy. I think if you're going to be happy here then you will do whatever it takes to make it work, I believe a lot of dissatisfied migrants are quite simply not willing to put up with Oz for the way it is, hence "people" always need to find someone or something to blame.

So all in all, I think I agree

Evelin

that's my saying earlier on in the thread, people like to talk up things, it makes them feel good to be were the action is, it's a confirmation that they made the right decision at some point in time.

Amazulu

I read recently that it was 30 families a day moving here, so probably 40-50000. Way less than 200 000. Perth is growing fast, but not that fast!

BadgeIsBack

Yup. You're allowed to be both confused and agree with me.

wavy_davy

Cool, I feel better now

temptininnit

What is the rate of people who return home to their native countries?

Exile

Possibly true in Victoria, but I'm not so sure if rural areas around Perth have anything that people miss from the UK.

There are a fair few people living in rural areas who crop up on the Moving Back forum. If 70% of immigrants head for the suburbs, then there are bound to be more people in absolute terms moving back from suburban Australia. The percentages suggest to me that rural living may not always be the solution.

movetoperth

You are looking at extremes here, newer estates do have smaller cottage blocks, usually between 350-450sqm, but this is a small number of blocks aimed at downsizers or 1st home buyers.They are really more for older people, there positioning usually screams old biddy, they overlook parks so the oldies can sit out front and watch whats going on. But.... these blocks make up a small number of blocks in these areas. New areas usually release blocks up to 700sqm or over, some releases may only have smaller blocks it just depends on which part of the development they are at. More established, older areas have block sizes ranging from 650sqm-850sqm, some times larger, there are still many areas like this which are affordable to many.

What you have to remember with Perth is that most of the areas close to the city are made up of family sized homes as opposed to units, so perhaps urban sprawl has happened more here than in other areas and there is only so far you can expand the city out before commuting becomes an issue, this is why many of the blocks in areas close to the city have been subdivided. I lived 10 mins from the city 20 years ago in a smallhome on a huge block, no idea of the size as it was unimportant then, more than half the garden was unused as it was a wilderness, now the home has 3 more homes build on it's land, such is the demand for housing in a commutable distance from the city.

If you think that most people in Perths suburbs are living on 400sqm blocks then your information is wrong.I'd also have to say if people are rushing back to the UK because they don;t like where they live then it's a pretty short sighted approach. Australia is a vast country with many different things to offer, if one area isn;t for you then try somewhere else whether it be a few k's away or a few thousand k's away.

Lynn

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