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the troubadour Mar 16th 2009 2:52 am

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Originally Posted by TandC23 (Post 7384671)
I second that motion!

Trying to make my mind up on that one ,what the hell lets live dangerously Perth i will cast my vote in the affirmative also.

the troubadour Mar 16th 2009 2:55 am

Re: Perth- am I missing something here?
 

Originally Posted by sprintman (Post 7383887)
Can somebody please explain the British mania for moving to Perth (dullsville) which is so isolated from the rest of Australia let alone the world? Is there a WA team in the U.K pushing WA as the place to be because the rest of the poms and Aussies really don't understand. You move from a country with a sort of temperate climate and close proximity to other people and varied landscapes to the state with nobody for thousands of kms and an extreme climate. For us poms in other parts of Oz this seems like madness of a diffeerent kind. What really is driving this?

Perhaps i can be of a little help here.It is all to do with something called Lifestyle do hope this clarifies your question.

sprintman Mar 16th 2009 9:18 am

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Never equated dull & boring with lifestyle but each to their own.

the troubadour Mar 16th 2009 10:42 am

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Originally Posted by sprintman (Post 7386072)
Never equated dull & boring with lifestyle but each to their own.

Me neither,until after a number of years of hearing this word used out here.

NKSK version 2 Mar 16th 2009 11:53 am

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Originally Posted by Heljinder (Post 7383328)
Yes, you're quite right, but this is the very reason why I'm taking my two young boys away from WA, and back to England. I rather not be faced with two adolescent boys possibly resenting their parents for raising them in such a dull, claustrophobic and insular strip of humanity in the middle of nowhere, away from their extended family and roots. I'm not so sure of the philosophy behind the oft used statement 'a better life for the kids'. My kids were fine in England, they never asked me to move them to Perth so they could have a better lifestyle. If adults need to scratch the immigration itch, then retire here instead, but leave your children out of it. My own opinion, of course.:)

This wasn't directed at you ACE, I just wanted to highlight what you said about Perth being better for families and older people.

My current take on Perth/UK is this:

If I had a household income of over 70K GBP then I think I would be happier in the UK. I’d pretty much have the choice of areas where I could live and therefore the choice of schools.

I’d be able to escape the gloomy weather whenever I wished – two weeks in Greece in October would be no problem.

I’d be able to afford a decent car for doing European road trips – and the petrol for the trips.

I’d be able to jet off for city breaks to Paris, Berlin, Rome etc for the weekend.

But our household income in the UK would be about 45K GBP at an absolute push.
None of the above would be possible for us and many of the things that people talk about missing wouldn’t be accessible to us.
I know that although there are many things I miss about the UK, I’d soon be sitting there frustrated that I couldn’t afford to do anything.

I wonder what the average household income of people from the UK now in Perth was?

stm1971 Mar 16th 2009 12:50 pm

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Originally Posted by the troubadour (Post 7384735)
Me too although lived in a what i considered a very safe area W2 for many years constantly ventured all over London with out encountering any (well almost)problems on the street(inside a few pubs and clubs well that was a different matter but even then only on odd occassions)
Do you really feel that it would be so different now?I mean it was still dodgy in parts then just got on with it.


Maybe not, but I'm older and wiser now and probably wouldn't take the chance. I can also afford the taxi fare home now which helps!!:D



Originally Posted by NKSK version 2 (Post 7386639)
My current take on Perth/UK is this:

If I had a household income of over 70K GBP then I think I would be happier in the UK. I’d pretty much have the choice of areas where I could live and therefore the choice of schools.

I’d be able to escape the gloomy weather whenever I wished – two weeks in Greece in October would be no problem.

I’d be able to afford a decent car for doing European road trips – and the petrol for the trips.

I’d be able to jet off for city breaks to Paris, Berlin, Rome etc for the weekend.

But our household income in the UK would be about 45K GBP at an absolute push.
None of the above would be possible for us and many of the things that people talk about missing wouldn’t be accessible to us.
I know that although there are many things I miss about the UK, I’d soon be sitting there frustrated that I couldn’t afford to do anything.

I wonder what the average household income of people from the UK now in Perth was?

Our household income in the UK nearly 9 years ago was approx 60K GBP, both of us working full time. With 1 child and another on the way that would have dropped significantly as we both wanted me to stay at home. That did influence our move to OZ as it meant we could afford to live on one income quite comfortably at that time here in Perth.

When we return to the UK we should be able to get between 70 and 80k GBP a year with one full timer and one part timer. Here we have well over a A$100k, working full time and part time, a small mortgage and can only afford a holiday out of WA every 2 years! And before anyone says I need to holiday in WA, I have, but I actually find you get better value elsewhere.

We definately had more spare cash 5 years ago than we do now and we were on one income then. Shows how expensive Perth has become.

jimbo_d Mar 16th 2009 12:52 pm

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Originally Posted by stm1971 (Post 7386811)
Maybe not, but I'm older and wiser now and probably wouldn't take the chance. I can also afford the taxi fare home now which helps!!:D




Our household income in the UK nearly 9 years ago was approx 60K GBP, both of us working full time. With 1 child and another on the way that would have dropped significantly as we both wanted me to stay at home. That did influence our move to OZ as it meant we could afford to live on one income quite comfortably at that time here in Perth.

When we return to the UK we should be able to get between 70 and 80k GBP a year with one full timer and one part timer. Here we have well over a A$100k, working full time and part time, a small mortgage and can only afford a holiday out of WA every 2 years! And before anyone says I need to holiday in WA, I have, but I actually find you get better value elsewhere.

We definately had more spare cash 5 years ago than we do now and we were on one income then. Shows how expensive Perth has become.

I suggest you go back to the UK asap and then report, it is a very different place from 9 years ago.

Notts_bloke Mar 16th 2009 1:08 pm

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Originally Posted by jimbo_d (Post 7386818)
I suggest you go back to the UK asap and then report, it is a very different place from 9 years ago.

Yes, apparently it has gone to the dogs.

stm1971 Mar 16th 2009 1:09 pm

Re: Perth- am I missing something here?
 

Originally Posted by jimbo_d (Post 7386818)
I suggest you go back to the UK asap and then report, it is a very different place from 9 years ago.

Your point??

It actually hasn't been 9 years since I have been there (been back a few times for varying lengths) and I know it is a different place now. Perth has also changed a lot in 9 years, some good, some bad. Swings and roundabouts mate.

We are actually do a lot more research into a move back to the UK than we ever did coming out to Perth. Rose tinted glases are long gone!

stm1971 Mar 16th 2009 1:10 pm

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Originally Posted by Notts_bloke (Post 7386851)
Yes, apparently it has gone to the dogs.

It's been going to the dogs for as long as I can remember, looks like it finally made it!

lastone Mar 16th 2009 1:11 pm

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This is a ridiculous thread.

Everyone should have looked carefully at moving here and have their own reasons for moving here.

Just because someone has different reasons than another person, that doesn't make it wrong.

Life is what you make of it. Perth is a great place to live, as is the UK.

They are both what you make of them. Some will like, others won't.

Notts_bloke Mar 16th 2009 1:19 pm

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Originally Posted by stm1971 (Post 7386857)
It's been going to the dogs for as long as I can remember, looks like it finally made it!

Don't listen to them. The UK is a great place to live. Don't let people put you off. Some people on here seem to like to slag off the UK to justify their reasons for moving to Australia.

fraser Mar 16th 2009 1:21 pm

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Originally Posted by Notts_bloke (Post 7386869)
Don't listen to them. The UK is a great place to live. Don't let people put you off. Some people on here seem to like to slag off the UK to justify their reasons for moving to Australia.

Never!!!!;)

stm1971 Mar 16th 2009 1:31 pm

Re: Perth- am I missing something here?
 

Originally Posted by Notts_bloke (Post 7386869)
Don't listen to them. The UK is a great place to live. Don't let people put you off. Some people on here seem to like to slag off the UK to justify their reasons for moving to Australia.

Don't worry I don't!! :D

I have actually enjoyed living in Australia for the most part and I have never slagged off the UK as it is my home and for all it's problems it is still a great place to live. It's a shame some people only choose to see the bad parts of it.

I think a lot of people also forget that it was the skills and education they aquired in the UK that enabled them to emigrate in the first place, they should be a bit kinder to their homeland.

Notts_bloke Mar 16th 2009 1:36 pm

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Originally Posted by stm1971 (Post 7386902)
Don't worry I don't!! :D

I have actually enjoyed living in Australia for the most part and I have never slagged off the UK as it is my home and for all it's problems it is still a great place to live. It's a shame some people only choose to see the bad parts of it.

I think a lot of people also forget that it was the skills and education they aquired in the UK that enabled them to emigrate in the first place, they should be a bit kinder to their homeland.

Maybe the UK is better off without them. Good luck mate.


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