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Old Dec 28th 2007, 7:10 pm
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Originally Posted by worzel View Post
Just a bit of perspective here. There is a bit of violence outside pubs late at night, as there is anywhere. In the UK it often involves guns and knives (fists don't even get reported any more) while here a "real man" (I use that term advisedly) still uses his fists. There seem to be a lot of "king hits" - one punch that was unprovoked that often leads to head trauma and death but I can't help wonder whether there was really some words exchanged to provoke it, not that it is excusable. So if you don't go out 'til 3am, wind people up and generally look for trouble you won't find it unless you are really unlucky. There often seems to be aboriginals involved too which may have something to do with them being treated like animals or maybe their inability to cope with grog or a Western lifestyle. I have to admit though, Perth attracts the title of the "wild west" and it is not totally unwarranted. Drinking to excess seems even more of a problem here than the UK. Popular culture almost encourages it though.

But crime that most people are likely to experience like house and car break ins or vandalism seem much much less in my experience here compared to the UK. Our suburb gets one break in every few weeks per the local paper - how many in the UK can say that?

You can (and people often do) leave houses and cars unlocked. We went to a theme park yesterday and left chairs, bags, cameras, glasses, loose change on the grass while we went on the rides and they were still there when we got back.

Thats just plain stupid....no matter where you live their will always be bad apples in the barrell...you were lucky......then again I live in the cotswolds and have never locked my car in the village or outside my house.
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Maybe some of the northeners who are so enfactuated with Uk should move to salford stalybridge, clifton, moss side, harpur hey, etc.
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total rubbish that and you know it.
You've been there then have you bstardo ? You know the score, yeah ?
I've lived in Salford and Moss Side.
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Originally Posted by marcpiano View Post
With yet another murder last night (and yet another serious assault in one of the nightclubs I was working) I'm interested to hear of ExPats perceptions of the crime rate in Perth?

Working security/nightclubs it's stayed pretty much constant in terms of low-level disorder since I started working in the industry, but the violent crime and murder rate has shot up in my perception even in the year and a half or so I've been back here.

Went back to the UK for a couple of weeks and my friends there still had the misconception of Perth being some sort of crime-free utopia and were quite taken aback when I told them the real story.

So interested to hear the views of those who live here now on the crime rate and how it's affected them, if at all. Also interested on hearing the views of those yet to move here but considering it.
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We arrive in perth on PR in August. Have been twice before on holiday and stepbrother has live there for around 20 years. I read the West Australian online and also the Sydney Herald.

My perception is that murders, rape e.t.c are probably just as bad as is pub/club violence. You can be in a club and get some twat glass you anywhere and drink will ALWAYS be a factor in nearly all town/city centre violence. There is sadly an element of wrong place wrong time anywhere in the world.
One thing I personally feel different about is the mindless vandalism. In Perth yes you see graffitti which is another scourge but I did see a lot less gangs of kids hanging around, I am sure they do but I just did not see them and I was not sat in everynight. I run here regularly in the U.K and I always see gangs of youths hanging around although they tend to leave you alone if on your own but nearly always abuse you if in a group. I never experienced this in Perth and just felt there was more "respect" for other people and the environment.
I am not moving to Perth because I think it will be safer it is just my take on the crime situation.
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The WA Police statistics say there were 76 burglaries reported in your suburb in the last two years and 25 assaults. Not great for a population of about 2,500.

As the OP suggests, it's all about perception.

Originally Posted by worzel View Post
Just a bit of perspective here. There is a bit of violence outside pubs late at night, as there is anywhere. In the UK it often involves guns and knives (fists don't even get reported any more) while here a "real man" (I use that term advisedly) still uses his fists. There seem to be a lot of "king hits" - one punch that was unprovoked that often leads to head trauma and death but I can't help wonder whether there was really some words exchanged to provoke it, not that it is excusable. So if you don't go out 'til 3am, wind people up and generally look for trouble you won't find it unless you are really unlucky. There often seems to be aboriginals involved too which may have something to do with them being treated like animals or maybe their inability to cope with grog or a Western lifestyle. I have to admit though, Perth attracts the title of the "wild west" and it is not totally unwarranted. Drinking to excess seems even more of a problem here than the UK. Popular culture almost encourages it though.

But crime that most people are likely to experience like house and car break ins or vandalism seem much much less in my experience here compared to the UK. Our suburb gets one break in every few weeks per the local paper - how many in the UK can say that?

You can (and people often do) leave houses and cars unlocked. We went to a theme park yesterday and left chairs, bags, cameras, glasses, loose change on the grass while we went on the rides and they were still there when we got back.
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In the nearly 5 years we've been here we have had:

1. Wife's purse stolen at the kids school, Ocean Reef.
2. Wife's mobile stolen.
3. Both cars broken in to on our drive, Ocean Reef.
4. Wife witnessed a carjacking.
5. We witnessed our neighbours being beaten up, stabbed in an unprovoked attack, Ocean Reef.
6. Wife had a rock thrown at her car in Mullaloo.
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where i live in sydney -eastern suburbs, virtually crime free compared to where i used to live in london.
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Originally Posted by northernbird View Post
The crime here doesn't affect me. I am under no illusion that crap happens here but its impact on me and mine daily is NIL so I don't suppose I am bothered. However you have to remember that Perth is a city the size of probably Leeds, Metro Manchester and Bristol put together so I dare say crime is going to happen and probably on a par with the cumulative total of those 3 cities.
Indeed - remember - Australian places are cities of 1m -4m people. They are not small.

We are 'practically' crime free here where we are. Go down to the burbs and there are usual issues with hoons and alcohol in hot spots.

I almost wouldn't worry about burglaries unless it is endemic - and even then it might be because your burb is access-easy and has stuff worth knicking.

I would worry more about crime culture - where the lack of opportunitiies and attitude creates a culture where crime follows. eg where I lived in S london, or people are just plain feral and don't care about their environment, or a hotspot of drink and nightclubs.

We have 1 buglary every 3 months or so from the main road but often the work of opportunists.

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1.saw a stray crisp bag
2.some poo on a verge.
3.saw a untied shoe lace
4.saw a man on his mobile phone in the service station.
5.i heard a bloke say"fluck"when he dropped a slab of tooies on his foot.
6.saw two blokes get an old lady across the road when there were three of em.
7.saw a bloke driving at 30 in a 60
8.heard a carol singer tut when i gave him 10 bucks.
9.saw a man slip on a banana skin

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1.saw a stray crisp bag
2.some poo on a verge.
3.saw a untied shoe lace
4.saw a man on his mobile phone in the service station.
5.i heard a bloke say"fluck"when he dropped a slab of tooies on his foot.
6.saw two blokes get an old lady across the road when there were three of em.
7.saw a bloke driving at 30 in a 60
8.heard a carol singer tut when i gave him 10 bucks.
9.saw a man slip on a banana skin
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Hello My Friend

I had heard about this website but never dipped in until today.

Whilst on the beach this morning meeting friends for a morning walk with dogs and some yoga we returned to find our car window smashed and sat nav stolen!! I honestly thought that at Warnbro beach, (Rockingham, Perth) such beauty indeed, there would be little chance of any harm coming to my family friends and indeed my car. The car park was packed with families just like ourselves and the Scumbags that are doing this are only meters away.

we are only here 10 weeks and this has knocked us for six, it will not dampen our spirits though but it will certainly make us re consider the location in which we enjoy our walks. We too have heard that crime is on the up, with 1 stabbing in Rockingham (Vibe Nightclub) a few days ago and another boy getting kidnapped, beat and dumped!! I have also noticed, or should I say not noticed! very little police presence!! Where are all the Bobbies on the beat???
I'm not that naive to know that crime does not exist here but you are right about the utopia conception of those outside of WA they need to loose it!
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I have also noticed, or should I say not noticed! very little police presence!! Where are all the Bobbies on the beat???
I'm not that naive to know that crime does not exist here but you are right about the utopia conception of those outside of WA they need to loose it!
sorry to hear about your break-in.

You are right, in the Rockingham Shire you won't see much of a police presence, we have only a few and they are bissy in the police station to fill in the burglary forms. I don't know if it is still the case but until a few years ago we had not a single police man in the shire after 5pm. If there was a problem they came down from Fremantle.

Saying this, I remember a few years back when we went to the south of France, we parked our car at carpark with lots of cars and tourists. We went to have a look at the attraction for about 5 min, came back, the window of the car was broken, my handbag gone and one car tyre flat.
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Sorry to hear about that. It really leaves a nasty taste, I know.

There is no way to escape it. It happens in expensive suburbs and cheap ones. It happens all along the beaches in the north (just look for the broken glass on the ground in virtually any car park), from Cottesloe to Quinns Rocks and beyond, and at other places (Pinnaroo Cemetery is a well-known one).

Perth is known as the burglary capital of Australia. It is full of thieving [email protected], just waiting for their chance. Unless you are very lucky, it will happen sooner or later to you or someone close to you if you are here long enough.

Quite a few people I've met who have been here a long time say the only way to deal with it is to expect to be burgled, or have your car broken in to, every time you go away, or park the car (and sometimes even if you don't go away). Expect it, and be pleasantly surprised if it doesn't happen. I know of people in some quite expensive suburbs who said they have been burgled twice in a year. A favourite trick is for the burglars to come back for the new stuff that was replaced on insurance payouts.

I think you have to have come from a pretty rough bit of the UK for Perth to be better in terms of crime.




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Hello My Friend

I had heard about this website but never dipped in until today.

Whilst on the beach this morning meeting friends for a morning walk with dogs and some yoga we returned to find our car window smashed and sat nav stolen!! I honestly thought that at Warnbro beach, (Rockingham, Perth) such beauty indeed, there would be little chance of any harm coming to my family friends and indeed my car. The car park was packed with families just like ourselves and the Scumbags that are doing this are only meters away.

we are only here 10 weeks and this has knocked us for six, it will not dampen our spirits though but it will certainly make us re consider the location in which we enjoy our walks. We too have heard that crime is on the up, with 1 stabbing in Rockingham (Vibe Nightclub) a few days ago and another boy getting kidnapped, beat and dumped!! I have also noticed, or should I say not noticed! very little police presence!! Where are all the Bobbies on the beat???
I'm not that naive to know that crime does not exist here but you are right about the utopia conception of those outside of WA they need to loose it!
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Beating seven shades of shit out of the offender if you catch them is likely to be more effective than involving the police too, from some of my experiences...
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