Which Ozzie words took you the longest to get use to?
Apr 1st 2005, 1:29 am
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Re: Which Ozzie words took you the longest to get use to?
Originally Posted by brisnick
apparently, it always used to be called 'manchester' in the uk too, many many years ago
I thought most British people knew where it came from, no secret
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Apr 1st 2005, 1:32 am
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Re: Which Ozzie words took you the longest to get use to?
i believe 'aborigine' is frowned upon too, and the correct term is 'aborignal'
Originally Posted by Ceri
I have an Italian friend ( born here in Aus to Italian parents), bloke who works with me - and he will tell you he absoultely hates the word Wog!. Actually try calling him a Wog and see what you will get 
. His words "stupid Aussie W*nkers can't they get anything right" ( and he is an Aussie, born and bred here but to two Italian parents) for a start a wog is a black man in Europe terms, it is only the aussies who can't get it straight. A lot of Greeks and Italians are actually offended by this word, not all of them here like it, or use it, like that stupid actor "Wog boy"
As for Paki - no it's not the same as Aussie. If Paki is acceptable here ( which it is to white Aussies - have they asked the Pakistanis if they find it accepatable to them?) to Australians why is Abo not?? - after all abo is a shortened term for Aborigine. like Paki is for Pakistani - one rule for some here another rule for others.
None of these terms I use - Paki is derogative, always has been, so is wog, so is Abo. Even on Cricket matches here in Aus the white Aussie commentators will use the term Paki. Perhaps they would like to ask the people in question and not other white Aussies. And for the Life of me I can not understand it is acceptable for them to shorten Pakistani when it isn't acceptable to shorten the Aborigine word in this country.
One rule for one, another rule for others.
. His words "stupid Aussie W*nkers can't they get anything right" ( and he is an Aussie, born and bred here but to two Italian parents) for a start a wog is a black man in Europe terms, it is only the aussies who can't get it straight. A lot of Greeks and Italians are actually offended by this word, not all of them here like it, or use it, like that stupid actor "Wog boy"As for Paki - no it's not the same as Aussie. If Paki is acceptable here ( which it is to white Aussies - have they asked the Pakistanis if they find it accepatable to them?) to Australians why is Abo not?? - after all abo is a shortened term for Aborigine. like Paki is for Pakistani - one rule for some here another rule for others.
None of these terms I use - Paki is derogative, always has been, so is wog, so is Abo. Even on Cricket matches here in Aus the white Aussie commentators will use the term Paki. Perhaps they would like to ask the people in question and not other white Aussies. And for the Life of me I can not understand it is acceptable for them to shorten Pakistani when it isn't acceptable to shorten the Aborigine word in this country.
One rule for one, another rule for others.
Apr 1st 2005, 1:33 am
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Re: Which Ozzie words took you the longest to get use to?
"Fair dinkum" for me! I have no idea what that's all about! Fair dinkum! And it sounds ridiculous if you say it without an Aussie (sorry, Australian) accent
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Apr 1st 2005, 1:36 am
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Re: Which Ozzie words took you the longest to get use to?
Originally Posted by brisnick
i believe 'aborigine' is frowned upon too, and the correct term is 'aborignal'
But you know what I mean it is not acceptable to shorten it - but yet they( white Aussies) shorten other ethnic peoples. Now that is what I do not understand
One rule for one another rule for others.
Apr 1st 2005, 2:10 am
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Re: Which Ozzie words took you the longest to get use to?
Originally Posted by Ceri
Now that is what I do not understand One rule for one another rule for others.
One rule for one another rule for others.But then we get back to the situation many others have said:
Brit for British
Aussie for Australian etc etc being acceptable shortened versions. So in theory, all shortened versions should be the same.
I personally would never use the "other" terms either, but can see where the problems can occur.
I blame Nick Giannopoulos for it all
Before his interference, the term "wog" used to be an offensive term for describing southern Europeans, but now it's all confused !!
Apr 1st 2005, 2:16 am
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Re: Which Ozzie words took you the longest to get use to?
Originally Posted by andrew63
"Fair dinkum" for me! I have no idea what that's all about! Fair dinkum! And it sounds ridiculous if you say it without an Aussie (sorry, Australian) accent
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The origin of "dinkum" actually lies in British dialect, where it meant "a day's allocation of work". "Your dinkum" was what you were required to get done so, naturally. a fair dinkum was a matter of some importance. The phrase "fair dinkum" existed in the Lincolnshire dialect.
Most dictionaries published outside Australia and New Zealand are unhelpful, just saying “origin unknown”. But it seems very possible that it comes from an old English dialect term, which is recorded principally in Joseph Wright’s English Dialect Dictionary of 1896-1905. He found several examples of dinkum in various parts of England in the sense of a fair or due share of work. He also encountered fair dinkum in Lincolnshire, used in the same way that people might exclaim fair dos! as a request for fair dealing
Apr 1st 2005, 2:18 am
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Re: Which Ozzie words took you the longest to get use to?
Originally Posted by ozzieeagle
Why are you so steadfast in importing racism into this country. I've been here 23 years or more, and choose to live in and enjoy the what is probably the most multi cultural part of Australia, This is the place to be if you miss europe, and where Pauline Hanson was given the biggest kick up the arse, with about .03 of the vote, I know exactly what I'm talking about, and if you care to look up the 'City of Moreland' you may find yourself educated about where and when racism does and doesn't exist.
The only excuse you have, and why I'm not giving you a real flame is you are obviously very new to this country.
The only excuse you have, and why I'm not giving you a real flame is you are obviously very new to this country.
OE i am not trying to import rascism, in my opinion it is already here, our opinions very obviously differ, i just find the way some people talk insulting, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
Apr 1st 2005, 3:23 am
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Re: Which Ozzie words took you the longest to get use to?
Oooh what happened to my light hearted thread???
I really do think it's the intention behind words which is damaging rather than the words themselves but it's a matter of thoughtfulness too, if you think it'll cause (unwarranted
) offence don't say it! Simple really.
I really do think it's the intention behind words which is damaging rather than the words themselves but it's a matter of thoughtfulness too, if you think it'll cause (unwarranted
) offence don't say it! Simple really.
Apr 1st 2005, 4:07 am
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Re: Which Ozzie words took you the longest to get use to?
Originally Posted by brisnick
i believe 'aborigine' is frowned upon too, and the correct term is 'aborignal'
Apr 1st 2005, 7:28 am
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Re: Which Ozzie words took you the longest to get use to?
yes I was told my baby would get morning tea and afternoon tea at daycare, I had no idea what it was. But I'm all for stopping for snacks so I quite like it.
I think its like hobbit eating here we seeem to have:breakie,moring tea,lunch, afternoon tea, tea, dinner, supper, thats 7 lots of eating in a day !!
Also dungarees are called "overalls", the lady at daycare had no idea what I was talking about when I said dungarees.
When I saw the "sale on manchester" on day one here, I really thought my jet lag was bad.
There is a funny work they use for baby sick too but I havent quick got that one yet, something like "pickie" or something
I think its like hobbit eating here we seeem to have:breakie,moring tea,lunch, afternoon tea, tea, dinner, supper, thats 7 lots of eating in a day !!
Also dungarees are called "overalls", the lady at daycare had no idea what I was talking about when I said dungarees.
When I saw the "sale on manchester" on day one here, I really thought my jet lag was bad.
There is a funny work they use for baby sick too but I havent quick got that one yet, something like "pickie" or something
Apr 1st 2005, 11:04 am
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Re: Which Ozzie words took you the longest to get use to?
Originally Posted by andrew63
"Fair dinkum" for me! I have no idea what that's all about! Fair dinkum! And it sounds ridiculous if you say it without an Aussie (sorry, Australian) accent
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Apr 1st 2005, 11:16 am
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Re: Which Ozzie words took you the longest to get use to?
Originally Posted by Ceri
I have an Italian friend ( born here in Aus to Italian parents), bloke who works with me - and he will tell you he absoultely hates the word Wog!. Actually try calling him a Wog and see what you will get . His words "stupid Aussie W*nkers can't they get anything right" ( and he is an Aussie, born and bred here but to two Italian parents) for a start a wog is a black man in Europe terms, it is only the aussies who can't get it straight. A lot of Greeks and Italians are actually offended by this word, not all of them here like it, or use it, like that stupid actor "Wog boy"
As for Paki - no it's not the same as Aussie. If Paki is acceptable here ( which it is to white Aussies - have they asked the Pakistanis if they find it accepatable to them?) to Australians why is Abo not?? - after all abo is a shortened term for Aborigine. like Paki is for Pakistani - one rule for some here another rule for others.
None of these terms I use - Paki is derogative, always has been, so is wog, so is Abo. Even on Cricket matches here in Aus the white Aussie commentators will use the term Paki. Perhaps they would like to ask the people in question and not other white Aussies. And for the Life of me I can not understand it is acceptable for them to shorten Pakistani when it isn't acceptable to shorten the Aborigine word in this country. One rule for one, another rule for others.
. His words "stupid Aussie W*nkers can't they get anything right" ( and he is an Aussie, born and bred here but to two Italian parents) for a start a wog is a black man in Europe terms, it is only the aussies who can't get it straight. A lot of Greeks and Italians are actually offended by this word, not all of them here like it, or use it, like that stupid actor "Wog boy"As for Paki - no it's not the same as Aussie. If Paki is acceptable here ( which it is to white Aussies - have they asked the Pakistanis if they find it accepatable to them?) to Australians why is Abo not?? - after all abo is a shortened term for Aborigine. like Paki is for Pakistani - one rule for some here another rule for others.
None of these terms I use - Paki is derogative, always has been, so is wog, so is Abo. Even on Cricket matches here in Aus the white Aussie commentators will use the term Paki. Perhaps they would like to ask the people in question and not other white Aussies. And for the Life of me I can not understand it is acceptable for them to shorten Pakistani when it isn't acceptable to shorten the Aborigine word in this country.
One rule for one, another rule for others. In fact they do it with Pride, Hows that for reversing what at one time, in the 60's through to the early 80's a negative, Pretty damn good on their part I think.Aboriginals or Kuri's, Yes Ceri, very true it is double standards, adapt to the idosyncrancies of this country is my advice
If I explain why, the double standard exists, we start to disturb some very murky and muddy water. (and edit lol, the poms will end up with the blame)
BTW, I thought Pakis, call each other Pakis in England, isn't that double standards ?
Last edited by ozzieeagle; Apr 1st 2005 at 11:23 am.
