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Old Feb 5th 2010, 9:59 pm
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Originally Posted by tevez
Parking fines are frequent and super expensive. A parking ticket is $82 last I got one. Probably $90 now. RTA, who are a private not govt. run organisation, make up new revenue raising schemes on a daily basis.
$117 around here for parking within 10m of an intersection - they come around at 4am and book people in quiet backstreets who've parked in the only spot they could find. Some of them look nowhere near the corner but I guess 10m is 10m.
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$117 around here for parking within 10m of an intersection - they come around at 4am and book people in quiet backstreets who've parked in the only spot they could find. Some of them look nowhere near the corner but I guess 10m is 10m.
Why the heck do you need to park 10m from on intersection in a residential area?
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Old Feb 5th 2010, 10:25 pm
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For a long time they lived in housing appropriate to the climate - instead of poorly insulated double storey brick McMansions with no eaves which make A/C a necessity!
Amen to that brother, we have no air-con and seem to survive by insulating and opening up the house at the appropriate times. We have added west-facing blinds and insulation since we bought this place and it is in no way stuffy.

It takes a bit more effort than pushing a button but it works for us.
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Originally Posted by Lord_Farquar
Why the heck do you need to park 10m from on intersection in a residential area?
Because cars parked closer obscure the intersection for cars using the road.
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Old Feb 5th 2010, 10:57 pm
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Because cars parked closer obscure the intersection for cars using the road.
No shit.

I meant 10m seems excessive.
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Old Feb 5th 2010, 11:29 pm
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Originally Posted by Lord_Farquar
No shit.

I meant 10m seems excessive.
Yes shit.

Same in the UK. Anything less and you'd have to slow down or increase the risk of an accident. Reaction distance at 50kph is 9m. Total stopping distance is 24. With those sorts of numbers you really need the car coming out of the side road to see you as soon as possible.
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Old Feb 5th 2010, 11:39 pm
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Originally Posted by MartinLuther
Yes shit.

Same in the UK. Anything less and you'd have to slow down or increase the risk of an accident. Reaction distance at 50kph is 9m. Total stopping distance is 24. With those sorts of numbers you really need the car coming out of the side road to see you as soon as possible.
Yes, on main roads. But I thought we were talking about minor residential streets?
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Old Feb 5th 2010, 11:45 pm
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Originally Posted by Lord_Farquar
No shit.

I meant 10m seems excessive.
UK Highway Code:
224. Cars, goods vehicles not exceeding 1525kg unladen, invalid carriages and motorcycles may be parked without lights on a road (or lay-by) with a speed limit of 30 mph or less if they are
• at least 10 metres (32 feet) away from any junction, close to the kerb and facing in the direction of the traffic flow
Australia:
Council Rules include:
Because of the danger of obstructing drivers' views, it is an offence to park a vehicle within 10 metres of an intersection or junction of streets or roads. The 10 metres are taken from the edge of the gutter.
 
Old Feb 5th 2010, 11:50 pm
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Originally Posted by ABCDiamond
UK Highway Code:


Australia:
Council Rules include:
I know that's the case for main roads.

But the OP was talking about quiet backstreets where 10 metres seems like overkill.
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Old Feb 6th 2010, 12:48 am
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Originally Posted by Lord_Farquar
I know that's the case for main roads.

But the OP was talking about quiet backstreets where 10 metres seems like overkill.
But that is for UK backstreets, according to those UK rules.
 
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Originally Posted by ABCDiamond
But that is for UK backstreets, according to those UK rules.
It's obviously not enforced then.
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Old Feb 6th 2010, 1:39 am
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Originally Posted by Lord_Farquar
It's obviously not enforced then.
It isn't around here either

But the UK media, and other reports can paint a different picture...

These days it's hard to do anything in England without paying for it, but when it comes to parking things are really getting ridiculous! In every town, on every street corner, you can be sure to see a gang of frenzied parking inspectors, on a mission to rinse you of all your cash for the slightest parking misdemeanour.

Things are so bad nowadays that even paying parkers who have left their car slightly over a white line, or touching the curb, are being given tickets, which can cost drivers hundreds of pounds!
http://www.blagadeal.co.uk/blag-your...ing-fines.html
But then, it'll be different in different areas, of both UK and Australia.
 
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Originally Posted by Lord_Farquar
Yes, on main roads. But I thought we were talking about minor residential streets?
It is 50kph on residential streets. Main roads are 60kph.

Where it is safe to park less than 10m this is marked with signs. 10 m is only 2 parked cars (approx length 3 m plus 1 m spacing). Not worth the reduction in visibility. Or the reduction in turning space.

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Originally Posted by Lord_Farquar
It's obviously not enforced then.
Yep. And the visibility is correspondingly shite.
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Old Feb 6th 2010, 4:00 am
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Originally Posted by bcworld
$117 around here for parking within 10m of an intersection - they come around at 4am and book people in quiet backstreets who've parked in the only spot they could find. Some of them look nowhere near the corner but I guess 10m is 10m.
Good.

Originally Posted by Lord_Farquar
Why the heck do you need to park 10m from on intersection in a residential area?
Because it's just as dangerous - little kids etc...

It drives me nuts here in the UK. People even park opposite a T junction.

Appologies those who have seen this before.

Notice how people don't care where they park or what they obstruct here. This is in my area and bad parking is not punished - ever!
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