Oz falling from high
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No, that's called currency which is different to real money. There are only two forms of real money, gold and silver. You can't create gold or silver from nothing.
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Ah, but Gold and Silver are also not 'money'. They are simply metals that have been considered throughout history as 'precious', attracting a value as a consequence. In Roman times, soldiers were paid in salt ! It's all very arbitrary and comically human.
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Gold and silver is money when it is minted into coins as a medium of exchange or used to back a currency because it is a store of value. A currency such as the dollar has no store of value and is backed usually by gold. A fiat currency isn't backed by anything and has zero value apart from what is inferred. In fact a dollar is nothing more than a promisary note; an IOU.
#115
How is it laughable? Queensland was at UK unemployment rates before the floods, NSW is a debarcle and has been for years and I don't see much other than IT professionals interested in Sydney. Just working class moving to Perth.
Perhaps your laughing because you're an idiot.
Perhaps your laughing because you're an idiot.
Even McDonalds has resorted to FIFO

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#116
Australian's able to have high savings due to strong wages growth
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/busi...-1226067488397
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/busi...-1226067488397
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#117
Gold and silver are just tokens of money. A bit more substantial than a fiat note but still tokens. If someone refuses to take your gold in exchange for something like food or work then it becomes just a piece of metal.
Money can be destroyed.
Money can be destroyed.
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People complain about the housing market being a ponzi scheme, it's nothing compared to the gold. What can you actually do with gold? You can't buy anything with it apart from maybe in some Asian countries or exchange it on the black market. Try offering it for sale other than in small quantities to the mint or a jewelers and you'll soon attract some interest from the authorities. Only thing it's good for is jewelry and making good headphone connections, and even gold jewelry is a bit chav these days.
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People complain about the housing market being a ponzi scheme, it's nothing compared to the gold. What can you actually do with gold? You can't buy anything with it apart from maybe in some Asian countries or exchange it on the black market. Try offering it for sale other than in small quantities to the mint or a jewelers and you'll soon attract some interest from the authorities. Only thing it's good for is jewelry and making good headphone connections, and even gold jewelry is a bit chav these days.
Australia is not America 50 years ago.
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Money stores value within itself whereas a fiat note (or currency) does not.




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It's a significant issue in accounting, how to measure the 'value' of assets.