sashimi

muppetking

well well well

muppetking

you might want to mention the 1 in 4 high school children who leave with NO formal qualifications

pommie bastard

Yes it tops a few leagues in this report , a well done to Australia for coming 5th in the Suicide table and 2nd in Drug use .
Keep up the good work lads do not let them Kiwi's beat you , how about a big push this year .

Black Sheep

Ah, BUT.....

(from http://www.emigratenz.org/NewsBriefs.html)

5th February

MINISTER RESPONDS TO
BAD REPORT ON NZ YOUTH FROM OECD

The New Zealand Herald carried the response of Youth Affairs Minister John Tamihere to yesterday's apparently damning figures on youth crime and suicides in New Zealand. Mr Tamihere said:

"The way we provide information is on the number of crimes an individual may commit. They may commit four crimes and be charged with breaking and entering, having a dangerous weapon, car conversion, whatever."

A similar offence overseas would be counted as one crime rather than four, making New Zealand's figures look much worse than they really are when
compared with other countries.

"The OECD appears at this stage to be counting them as individual offenders and so the offending rates look higher than they are."

The statistics in the report were from 1997.

"Youth suicide in terms of the way in which they were trending up in the mid 1990s have actually dropped by nearly 30 percentage points."


So much for 'statistics'....

sashimi

Quote:

MINISTER RESPONDS TO BAD REPORT FROM OECD

So much for statistics...

I agree, statistics are tricky things. But why do the NZers hand over figures from 1997?? If things have improved since then? Doesn't seem to make terribly much sense to me. I know international organisations work incredibly slowly, but surely not t h a t slowly.

sashimi

Jaffa30

well, well, well..............

Thanks to the eagle-eye of "The American", he has shown the reality is alot more positive. Makes you wonder how they can publish such a statistically misleading report.

The following quote from the original URL is interesting:
"New Zealand students rated fifth among OECD countries for academic performance"
Muppetking, didn't you say the NZ education system is lacking in quality?
Also, your statistic about 1 in 4 high school children who leave with no formal qualifications is incorrect. The URL below has the Ministry of Education graph which shows the figures fluctuate between 16 and 19% (the average from the graph would equate to 1 in 6 people - not 1 in 4 as you said).

http://www.stats.govt.nz/domino/exte...b?OpenDocument

yafm

How about you join them before you leave!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

muppetking

Try http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/o,2106,...1a6160,00.html . A politician dismissing a report,never!

muppetking

Sorry, if this link doesn't work try www.stuff.co.nz and try oecd on their search.

Jaffa30

This is the correct link:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,...1a6160,00.html

It shows exactly the point which "The American" and I were making

pommie bastard

Well if I stop any longer that could well happen , I have seen a young lad top himself here across the road from where we lived its quite common , better dead than Aussie?