NZ ---- bleak

Old Aug 31st 2002, 12:53 pm
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I am a very well established incometax lawyer.
People paint a very bleak and a negative picture about NZ. i am going to get my PR soon.
Should I go? or should i just drop it?
Help!!!!!!!!!!!

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Old Aug 31st 2002, 5:59 pm
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Default Re: NZ ---- bleak

Originally posted by dinesh:
I am a very well established incometax lawyer.
People paint a very bleak and a negative picture about NZ. i am going to get my PR soon.
Should I go? or should i just drop it?
Help!!!!!!!!!!!

dinesh
Pls tell us what exactly your reservations might be, old boy?
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Old Aug 31st 2002, 9:33 pm
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Can you be more specific with your concerns? What is you reason for going for PR in
the first place? Why did/do you want to go to NZ? I have been there three weeks now
and i KNOW i have mad the right choice.

Emily

"dinesh" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > I am a very well established incometax lawyer. People paint a very bleak and a
    > negative picture about NZ. i am going to get my PR soon. Should I go? or should i
    > just drop it? Help!!!!!!!!!!!
    > dinesh
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Old Sep 1st 2002, 3:57 am
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Take it from me - NZ is a fantastic country, much better than home:

Cost of living is much less than the UK - Petrol approx $1.10 a litre = 0.33p)
I read somewhere recently that NZ has one of the highest standards of living, we came 7th if I remember correctly.
Beautiful scenery, friendly people, laid back pace of life.
Only 3.8 million people in the whole country - plenty of space. No sitting on the M25 for 2-3hrs each day. A colleague at work complained the other day that it took her "35 mins to get over the damn bridge" (she lives on the north shore & has to use Auckland harbour bridge to get to work in the CBD) and that was in rush hour.

I could go on...
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Old Sep 1st 2002, 8:30 am
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Property = cheap (AKL and the other cities excepted), food tastes of what it should,
the beaches are deserted (OK so it is Winter, but even at Xmas they were quiet).

Down sides, the standard of driving is pants, too many TV commercials, limited choice
of certain things in shops, particularly in rural areas.

If you want designer shops, glitzy people, etc, then go to LA. If you want good
education for your kids, low cost of living, minimal pollution and fantastic scenery
then come. "BritboyNZ" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > Take it from me - NZ is a fantastic country, much better than home:
    > Cost of living is much less than the UK - Petrol approx $1.10 a litre = .33p) I
    > read somewhere recently that NZ has one of the highest standards of living, we
    > came 7th if I remember correctly. Beautiful scenery, friendly people, laid back
    > pace of life. Only 3.8 million people in the whole country - plenty of space. No
    > sitting on the M25 for 2-3hrs each day. A colleague at work complained the other
    > day that it took her "35 mins to get over the damn bridge" (she lives on the north
    > shore & has to use Auckland harbour bridge to get to work in the CBD) and that was
    > in rush hour.
    > I could go on...
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Old Sep 2nd 2002, 3:26 pm
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Originally posted by BritboyNZ:
Take it from me - NZ is a fantastic country, much better than home:

Cost of living is much less than the UK - Petrol approx $1.10 a litre = 0.33p)
I read somewhere recently that NZ has one of the highest standards of living, we came 7th if I remember correctly.
Beautiful scenery, friendly people, laid back pace of life.
Only 3.8 million people in the whole country - plenty of space. No sitting on the M25 for 2-3hrs each day. A colleague at work complained the other day that it took her "35 mins to get over the damn bridge" (she lives on the north shore & has to use Auckland harbour bridge to get to work in the CBD) and that was in rush hour.

I could go on...
thanks for info
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Originally posted by pleasancefamily:


Pls tell us what exactly your reservations might be, old boy?
Well people say that the job scenario is bad, with so many people leaving NZ (and many coming in). I know many people immigrating to Oz from NZ, so i conclude that the situation in NZ is not better than that in Oz.

I am basically a person who wants a good quality life and a secure/top quality education for my kids + a job (that can give me enough to survive). Otherwise i'm very well settled, professionally.

I am even ready to do small oddjobs like telesales/sales/customer care etc jobs.

My pPR is likely to get thru, each passing day i'm getting more and more scared. Would i be able to get such petty jobs and keep my family alive in the beginning or would i have to eat out of my pocket?

kindly advise??
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Old Sep 5th 2002, 6:47 am
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Originally posted by Emmy & Phil:
Can you be more specific with your concerns? What is you reason for going for PR in
the first place? Why did/do you want to go to NZ? I have been there three weeks now
and i KNOW i have mad the right choice.

Emily

"dinesh" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > I am a very well established incometax lawyer. People paint a very bleak and a
    > negative picture about NZ. i am going to get my PR soon. Should I go? or should i
    > just drop it? Help!!!!!!!!!!!
    > dinesh
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
Well people say that the job scenario is bad, with so many people leaving NZ (and many coming in). I know many people immigrating to Oz from NZ, so i conclude that the situation in NZ is not better than that in Oz.

I am basically a person who wants a good quality life and a secure/top quality education for my kids + a job (that can give me enough to survive). Otherwise i'm very well settled, professionally.

I am even ready to do small oddjobs like telesales/sales/customer care etc jobs.

My pPR is likely to get thru, each passing day i'm getting more and more scared. Would i be able to get such petty jobs and keep my family alive in the beginning or would i have to eat out of my pocket.

Since u have been there, what would u like to advise new comers to NZ on PR??
Thanks buddy,
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Old Sep 5th 2002, 10:10 am
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What can i say, i am sooo in love with it here, my son (who's 3) is very happy in
play group and kindy, i know the education system here is really good, eveywhere you
go is so child friendly, they have toys in most shops and i'm not so paranoid as to
let matthew out of my sight!!! The country is so well organised it is amazing.
Standerd of life is so much better than in the uk, wages arent as good but when phil
does get a job i know we will be fine, i didnt come here to make money, i came to
have a better life and i am getting that already, i can not tell you what to do but
do you really want to live with the what if's. NZ isnt paradise, it does have its
problems, but life here is really good. Before we cane here i spoke to so many people
who said "we nearly moved to...." and i just cant help but think why didnt you?

Emily

"dinesh" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > Originally posted by Emmy & Phil:
    > > Can you be more specific with your concerns? What is you reason for going for PR
    > > in the first place? Why did/do you want to go to NZ? I have been there three
    > > weeks now and i KNOW i have mad the right choice.
    > >
    > > Emily
    > >
    > > "dinesh" wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]
    > > itishexpats.comnews:[email protected] s.com...
    > > > I am a very well established incometax lawyer. People paint a very bleak and a
    > > > negative picture about NZ. i am going to get my PR soon. Should I go? or should
    > > > i just drop it? Help!!!!!!!!!!! dinesh
    > > > --
    > > > Posted via http://bri-
    > > > tishexpats.com/http://britishexpats.com

    > >
    > Well people say that the job scenario is bad, with so many people leaving NZ (and
    > many coming in). I know many people immigrating to Oz from NZ, so i conclude that
    > the situation in NZ is not better than that in Oz.
    > I am basically a person who wants a good quality life and a secure/top quality
    > education for my kids + a job (that can give me enough to survive). Otherwise i'm
    > very well settled, professionally.
    > I am even ready to do small oddjobs like telesales/sales/customer care etc jobs.
    > My pPR is likely to get thru, each passing day i'm getting more and more scared.
    > Would i be able to get such petty jobs and keep my family alive in the beginning or
    > would i have to eat out of my pocket.
    > Since u have been there, what would u like to advise new comers to NZ on PR??
    > Thanks buddy, dinesh
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
 
Old Sep 5th 2002, 10:03 pm
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Emily This poster is from India I think, so the same things may not apply to him.

Dinesh, what you need to think about are your reasons *why* you want to go to New
Zealand. You've probably got a position close to the top of Indian society - when
you arrive in New Zealand, you will have to start out much lower down New Zealand's
ladder. That said, it's easier to get ahead in NZ than it would be in India, but you
have to to be prepared to do things like work long hours in a job you may not be
suited for, and study for some New Zealand qualifications and gradually work your way
back up in society.

The work you find initially may not be well paid, and your standard of living
initially could easily be lower than what you are used to (or expect).

You may have to accept that the main beneficiaries of your move long term could be
your children, who will be able to grow up as New Zealanders.

For you it may not necessarily be an easy decision, but you're the only one who can
decide. You have got to think about why you want to go to NZ, and what sacrifices
you are prepared to make to establish yourself there. If you don't go, you may not
qualify for PR again, on the other hand if you do go and don't like it, you should
think about how easy it would be to re-establish yourself in India.

Jeremy

    >On Thu, 5 Sep 2002 22:10:45 +1200, "Emmy & Phil" <[email protected]>
    >wrote: What can i say, i am sooo in love with it here, my son (who's 3) is very
    >happy in play group and kindy, i know the education system here is really good,
    >eveywhere you go is so child friendly, they have toys in most shops and i'm not so
    >paranoid as to let matthew out of my sight!!! The country is so well organised it
    >is amazing. Standerd of life is so much better than in the uk, wages arent as good
    >but when phil does get a job i know we will be fine, i didnt come here to make
    >money, i came to have a better life and i am getting that already, i can not tell
    >you what to do but do you really want to live with the what if's. NZ isnt paradise,
    >it does have its problems, but life here is really good. Before we cane here i
    >spoke to so many people who said "we nearly moved to...." and i just cant help but
    >think why didnt you?
    >Emily
    >"dinesh" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    >> Originally posted by Emmy & Phil:
    >> > Can you be more specific with your concerns? What is you reason for going for PR
    >> > in the first place? Why did/do you want to go to NZ? I have been there three
    >> > weeks now and i KNOW i have mad the right choice.
    >> >
    >> > Emily
    >> >
    >> > "dinesh" wrote in message
    >> > news:[email protected]
    >> > itishexpats.comnews:402133.1030[email protected] s.com...
    >> > > I am a very well established incometax lawyer. People paint a very bleak and a
    >> > > negative picture about NZ. i am going to get my PR soon. Should I go? or
    >> > > should i just drop it? Help!!!!!!!!!!! dinesh
    >> > > --
    >> > > Posted via http://br-
    >> > > itishexpats.com/http://britishexpats.com

    >> >
    >> Well people say that the job scenario is bad, with so many people leaving NZ (and
    >> many coming in). I know many people immigrating to Oz from NZ, so i conclude that
    >> the situation in NZ is not better than that in Oz.
    >> I am basically a person who wants a good quality life and a secure/top quality
    >> education for my kids + a job (that can give me enough to survive). Otherwise i'm
    >> very well settled, professionally.
    >> I am even ready to do small oddjobs like telesales/sales/customer care etc jobs.
    >> My pPR is likely to get thru, each passing day i'm getting more and more scared.
    >> Would i be able to get such petty jobs and keep my family alive in the beginning
    >> or would i have to eat out of my pocket.
    >> Since u have been there, what would u like to advise new comers to NZ on PR??
    >> Thanks buddy, dinesh
    >> --
    >> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
 
Old Sep 6th 2002, 2:09 pm
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Originally posted by Emmy & Phil:
What can i say, i am sooo in love with it here, my son (who's 3) is very happy in
play group and kindy, i know the education system here is really good, eveywhere you
go is so child friendly, they have toys in most shops and i'm not so paranoid as to
let matthew out of my sight!!! The country is so well organised it is amazing.
Standerd of life is so much better than in the uk, wages arent as good but when phil
does get a job i know we will be fine, i didnt come here to make money, i came to
have a better life and i am getting that already, i can not tell you what to do but
do you really want to live with the what if's. NZ isnt paradise, it does have its
problems, but life here is really good. Before we cane here i spoke to so many people
who said "we nearly moved to...." and i just cant help but think why didnt you?

Emily

Thanx emily for info




"dinesh" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    > Originally posted by Emmy & Phil:
    > > Can you be more specific with your concerns? What is you reason for going for PR
    > > in the first place? Why did/do you want to go to NZ? I have been there three
    > > weeks now and i KNOW i have mad the right choice.
    > >
    > > Emily
    > >
    > > "dinesh" wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]
    > > itishexpats.comnews:[email protected] s.com...
    > > > I am a very well established incometax lawyer. People paint a very bleak and a
    > > > negative picture about NZ. i am going to get my PR soon. Should I go? or should
    > > > i just drop it? Help!!!!!!!!!!! dinesh
    > > > --
    > > > Posted via http://bri-
    > > > tishexpats.com/http://britishexpats.com

    > >
    > Well people say that the job scenario is bad, with so many people leaving NZ (and
    > many coming in). I know many people immigrating to Oz from NZ, so i conclude that
    > the situation in NZ is not better than that in Oz.
    > I am basically a person who wants a good quality life and a secure/top quality
    > education for my kids + a job (that can give me enough to survive). Otherwise i'm
    > very well settled, professionally.
    > I am even ready to do small oddjobs like telesales/sales/customer care etc jobs.
    > My pPR is likely to get thru, each passing day i'm getting more and more scared.
    > Would i be able to get such petty jobs and keep my family alive in the beginning or
    > would i have to eat out of my pocket.
    > Since u have been there, what would u like to advise new comers to NZ on PR??
    > Thanks buddy, dinesh
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com
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Originally posted by Jaj:
Emily This poster is from India I think, so the same things may not apply to him.

Dinesh, what you need to think about are your reasons *why* you want to go to New
Zealand. You've probably got a position close to the top of Indian society - when
you arrive in New Zealand, you will have to start out much lower down New Zealand's
ladder. That said, it's easier to get ahead in NZ than it would be in India, but you
have to to be prepared to do things like work long hours in a job you may not be
suited for, and study for some New Zealand qualifications and gradually work your way
back up in society.

The work you find initially may not be well paid, and your standard of living
initially could easily be lower than what you are used to (or expect).

You may have to accept that the main beneficiaries of your move long term could be
your children, who will be able to grow up as New Zealanders.

For you it may not necessarily be an easy decision, but you're the only one who can
decide. You have got to think about why you want to go to NZ, and what sacrifices
you are prepared to make to establish yourself there. If you don't go, you may not
qualify for PR again, on the other hand if you do go and don't like it, you should
think about how easy it would be to re-establish yourself in India.

Jeremy

Thanks Jeremy for advise and useful information.
    >On Thu, 5 Sep 2002 22:10:45 +1200, "Emmy & Phil" <[email protected]>
    >wrote: What can i say, i am sooo in love with it here, my son (who's 3) is very
    >happy in play group and kindy, i know the education system here is really good,
    >eveywhere you go is so child friendly, they have toys in most shops and i'm not so
    >paranoid as to let matthew out of my sight!!! The country is so well organised it
    >is amazing. Standerd of life is so much better than in the uk, wages arent as good
    >but when phil does get a job i know we will be fine, i didnt come here to make
    >money, i came to have a better life and i am getting that already, i can not tell
    >you what to do but do you really want to live with the what if's. NZ isnt paradise,
    >it does have its problems, but life here is really good. Before we cane here i
    >spoke to so many people who said "we nearly moved to...." and i just cant help but
    >think why didnt you?
    >Emily
    >"dinesh" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    >> Originally posted by Emmy & Phil:
    >> > Can you be more specific with your concerns? What is you reason for going for PR
    >> > in the first place? Why did/do you want to go to NZ? I have been there three
    >> > weeks now and i KNOW i have mad the right choice.
    >> >
    >> > Emily
    >> >
    >> > "dinesh" wrote in message
    >> > news:[email protected]
    >> > itishexpats.comnews:[email protected] s.com...
    >> > > I am a very well established incometax lawyer. People paint a very bleak and a
    >> > > negative picture about NZ. i am going to get my PR soon. Should I go? or
    >> > > should i just drop it? Help!!!!!!!!!!! dinesh
    >> > > --
    >> > > Posted via http://br-
    >> > > itishexpats.com/http://britishexpats.com

    >> >
    >> Well people say that the job scenario is bad, with so many people leaving NZ (and
    >> many coming in). I know many people immigrating to Oz from NZ, so i conclude that
    >> the situation in NZ is not better than that in Oz.
    >> I am basically a person who wants a good quality life and a secure/top quality
    >> education for my kids + a job (that can give me enough to survive). Otherwise i'm
    >> very well settled, professionally.
    >> I am even ready to do small oddjobs like telesales/sales/customer care etc jobs.
    >> My pPR is likely to get thru, each passing day i'm getting more and more scared.
    >> Would i be able to get such petty jobs and keep my family alive in the beginning
    >> or would i have to eat out of my pocket.
    >> Since u have been there, what would u like to advise new comers to NZ on PR??
    >> Thanks buddy, dinesh
    >> --
    >> Posted via http://britishexpats.com
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