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Old Nov 20th 2008, 2:24 am
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We've just signed our mortgage papers last week here in WA. No stamp duty because we're building and the house is worth less than $500K. First homeowners grant of $7k because we put the offer in before the increase was announced. We definitely told our lender (who is affilliated with the WA gov't) and our mortgage broker we had owned property in Canada and we have been approved for FHOG regardless.
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Originally Posted by Dorothy
We've just signed our mortgage papers last week here in WA. No stamp duty because we're building and the house is worth less than $500K. First homeowners grant of $7k because we put the offer in before the increase was announced. We definitely told our lender (who is affilliated with the WA gov't) and our mortgage broker we had owned property in Canada and we have been approved for FHOG regardless.
probably a qld thing? we got fhog, but had to pay stamp duty because we owned a home in the uk
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Originally Posted by Dorothy
We've just signed our mortgage papers last week here in WA. No stamp duty because we're building and the house is worth less than $500K. First homeowners grant of $7k because we put the offer in before the increase was announced. We definitely told our lender (who is affilliated with the WA gov't) and our mortgage broker we had owned property in Canada and we have been approved for FHOG regardless.
Thanks Dorothy, that's somewhat of a relief!
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Originally Posted by The_Wookie
Is that ruling just for Qld?

I can't find anything that says about overseas property on the WA State Revenue website.
yes, I'm in Qld & the guy at the bank went to a Qld government site to show us that it has been changed.
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Originally Posted by kporte
probably a qld thing? we got fhog, but had to pay stamp duty because we owned a home in the uk

Yes, it is a QLD thing. In NSW the forms for FHOG and stamp duty exemption state "Owned or had an interest in a property in Australia"


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Originally Posted by Swerv-o
Yes, it is a QLD thing. In NSW the forms for FHOG and stamp duty exemption state "Owned or had an interest in a property in Australia"


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Phew! That's a relief. I need to do some research I think - is the exemption on properties under 500k in NSW too (like someone mentioned above)? Not that we can afford anything OVER 500k
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Originally Posted by TillyG
Phew! That's a relief. I need to do some research I think - is the exemption on properties under 500k in NSW too (like someone mentioned above)? Not that we can afford anything OVER 500k

In NSW:

Properties <= $500k = no stamp duty for first time buyers

Properties between $501k - $600k = discounted stamp duty for first time buyers

properties > $600k = full stamp duty.

FHOG is available to any first home buyer that has not had an interest in a property in Australia.


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Originally Posted by Swerv-o
In NSW:

Properties <= $500k = no stamp duty for first time buyers

Properties between $501k - $600k = discounted stamp duty for first time buyers

properties > $600k = full stamp duty.

FHOG is available to any first home buyer that has not had an interest in a property in Australia.


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Thanks so much
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Originally Posted by Chris Ball
We have just been hit for stamp duty on our first home in Australia, we purposely brought a house under $500,000 so we would'nt have to pay it ! But you do have to if you have ever owned property anywhere in the World. So thats another $8000 please oh and another $983.40Qld registration fee. + Solicitors fees (about $1000) so just a good job the first home owners grant of $14000 is not world wide to.
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Yes we have just bought a property and missed out on the $14,000.00 as we had put a offer in just a few days before it was announced and can only claim the $7,000.00.We had to pay just under $7,000.00 in stamp which wiped out the grant.It SUCKS as they give it to you in one hand and take it out the other in QLD.We had to sign a legal document to say we had never owned a property anywhere in the world too and as we are in our forties it would be quite obvious we were lying so we declared we had owned a property before and had to cough up the stamp duty which we also have had to pay six weeks before settlement,and we don't get the grant till after settlement.
Won't be moving for a long time!!!!!
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It sure makes a difference to what state you live in, here is Tas, you only get a $4000 reduction on your stamp duty and that's only if you buy a house under $350,000 - most other states are obviously much more generous!

We missed out on that as we are buying a property at $370,000 and have also just found out today that despite buying a brand new house, we will not get the $21k as there was a change of ownership between the buiding company and their umberella company - they do it for a tax perk apparently (very complicated explanation we got from the solicitors!) so we are now only eligible for the $14k - which is still more than we expected originally so that's good news, just a shame that Tas is so stingy with any stamp duty rebate

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Originally Posted by orca05
It SUCKS as they give it to you in one hand and take it out the other in QLD.
Most people think themselves lucky that they are in QLD when it comes to Stamp Duty, and not one of the other States. All the others charge a much higher rate of Duty.
 
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Originally Posted by ABCDiamond
Most people think themselves lucky that they are in QLD when it comes to Stamp Duty, and not one of the other States. All the others charge a much higher rate of Duty.
Yes, they do!

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Originally Posted by chris and farideh
Yep it has been changed since first of September 08, both the bank & our solicitor told us.
Also there is backlog of the first time buyer grant be careful don’t get caught in it, they’ll pay but there is a bit of wait, make sure you have your $14.000 ready in case there is delay, happened to a friend of us last week.
Hi was the backlog for approval or for payout. We've had our approval letter through but don't settle until Mid December. Don't have a spare $14K so hoping the delay doesn't apply to us.

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Hi was the backlog for approval or for payout. We've had our approval letter through but don't settle until Mid December. Don't have a spare $14K so hoping the delay doesn't apply to us.

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Its for payout, this has happened to someone you know who just bought a place, she warned me as we are also settling by 12 of Dec, so I have phoned my mortgage broker to check it out as we don’t have spare $14.000, they can keep the children as deposit until we get the grant.

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Old Nov 21st 2008, 11:36 am
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Originally Posted by chris and farideh
Its for payout, this has happened to someone you know who just bought a place, she warned me as we are also settling by 12 of Dec, so I have phoned my mortgage broker to check it out as we don’t have spare $14.000, they can keep the children as deposit until we get the grant.
I never thought about the kids! The bank arranged our FHOG papers as part of the 100% mortgage. Might have to have a wee word with the bank!

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