No means No
Aug 5th 2010, 11:52 am
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Aug 5th 2010, 1:09 pm
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Re: No means No
I have to admit to a brief speechless moment when I heard the phrase, too.
Especially when what he actually said was "With Julia, does no mean yes?"- this is almost a verbatim repetition of a 1980s UK high court judge who was trying a rape case and said "sometimes women mean yes when they say no" (someone else must remember that too?)
Shockingly bad choice of words.
Especially when what he actually said was "With Julia, does no mean yes?"- this is almost a verbatim repetition of a 1980s UK high court judge who was trying a rape case and said "sometimes women mean yes when they say no" (someone else must remember that too?)
Shockingly bad choice of words.
Aug 5th 2010, 1:49 pm
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Re: No means No
I have to admit to a brief speechless moment when I heard the phrase, too.
Especially when what he actually said was "With Julia, does no mean yes?"- this is almost a verbatim repetition of a 1980s UK high court judge who was trying a rape case and said "sometimes women mean yes when they say no" (someone else must remember that too?)
Shockingly bad choice of words.
Especially when what he actually said was "With Julia, does no mean yes?"- this is almost a verbatim repetition of a 1980s UK high court judge who was trying a rape case and said "sometimes women mean yes when they say no" (someone else must remember that too?)
Shockingly bad choice of words.
Aug 5th 2010, 3:14 pm
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Re: No means No
All a load of tosh though. It's a common phrase that we use with our kids and there's absolutely no thought to any other connotations. As others have said, people hear what they want to hear.
It's plain and simple Labour media spin. They're doing a pretty fine job of digging a hole for themselves time and again so its really no wonder that they try and grasp any opportunity they can get.
Aug 5th 2010, 11:57 pm
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Re: No means No
Total ridiculous.
Julia Gillard said NO to more than ONE debate. Tony Abbot when told that Julia Gillard actually does want another, said
The phrase gets used in many other ways, but Labour find they can twist it to suit themselves. I am beginning to wish I could vote now... I actually feel like supporting..., or should I say, voting against, a certain party.
Julia Gillard said NO to more than ONE debate. Tony Abbot when told that Julia Gillard actually does want another, said
"When she said 'no', I thought she meant 'no'. I believed her. You can't change the rules just because you are in trouble."
"She's surely not trying to say to us that 'no doesn't mean no', because that's what she said, 'no', repeatedly. And when she said 'no' I believed her."
"She's surely not trying to say to us that 'no doesn't mean no', because that's what she said, 'no', repeatedly. And when she said 'no' I believed her."
Aug 6th 2010, 12:20 am
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Re: No means No
I thought Labo(u)r actually distanced themselves well from the media beat-up ... even they realise it is a ridiculous parallel to draw and isn't worth pursuing.
Aug 6th 2010, 12:24 am
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Aug 6th 2010, 1:50 am
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Re: No means No
I have to admit to a brief speechless moment when I heard the phrase, too.
Especially when what he actually said was "With Julia, does no mean yes?"- this is almost a verbatim repetition of a 1980s UK high court judge who was trying a rape case and said "sometimes women mean yes when they say no" (someone else must remember that too?)
Shockingly bad choice of words.
Especially when what he actually said was "With Julia, does no mean yes?"- this is almost a verbatim repetition of a 1980s UK high court judge who was trying a rape case and said "sometimes women mean yes when they say no" (someone else must remember that too?)
Shockingly bad choice of words.
Please, use some common sense.
