New rivers for Perth!?!
#16
Originally Posted by Quinkana
Could be - got a ref?
www.tenix.com/PDFLibrary/231.pdf
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Originally Posted by Muzza04
Overall energy consumption would be less than half that of a desalination plant with the same fresh water output.
The estimated cost of the Kimberley Canal project’s water is slightly below the WA Government’s latest estimate of the cost of water from the new Kwinana desalination plant ($1.11 per kilolitre).
In comparison, a recent WA Government study suggests the cost of water supplied by a long-distance pipeline would be at least $6 per kilolitre.
The estimated cost of the Kimberley Canal project’s water is slightly below the WA Government’s latest estimate of the cost of water from the new Kwinana desalination plant ($1.11 per kilolitre).
In comparison, a recent WA Government study suggests the cost of water supplied by a long-distance pipeline would be at least $6 per kilolitre.
#18
Originally Posted by MarkMyWords
Covered is good. It just seemed to me (without thinking much about it) that digging a long trench and lining it properly would cost a lot more than stringing a whole lot of pipe sections together, both in building costs and in maintenance. But I'm no structural engineer or whatever. (OTOH I wouldn't necessarily expect them to choose the cheaper or more sensible option, as there could easily be heavy political influences.)
What some are saying is that the canal which will be some sort of concrete bottom with some plastic cover will be 2 billion where as a pipe that distance would be more like 10 or 11 billion.
Either way it just needs to be done.
#19
Bloody hell!
What a can of worms I've opened here..
I started this thread as a bit of a piss take of a badly worded leaflet, &
it's grown into a poltical debate about the future of Perth's water supply!
Aaaahh.... The art of conversation.
What a can of worms I've opened here..
I started this thread as a bit of a piss take of a badly worded leaflet, &
it's grown into a poltical debate about the future of Perth's water supply!
Aaaahh.... The art of conversation.
#20
Originally Posted by Siren
What some are saying is that the canal which will be some sort of concrete bottom with some plastic cover will be 2 billion where as a pipe that distance would be more like 10 or 11 billion.
Either way it just needs to be done.
Either way it just needs to be done.
yep, and the estimated(by Water Corp.) operating cost of the pipeline would be $100million per year, as opposed to $24million pa. for desalination.For the canal though it be considerably less as the water will move by gravity.
Anyway, an independent panel is on the case and will publish a report in September 2005 outlining the costs of the various options.
#21
Originally Posted by Muzza04
Anyway, an independent panel is on the case and will publish a report in September 2005 outlining the costs of the various options.
Anyway, it's all politics at the moment, I'll wait and see what they're all saying after the elections.
#22
Originally Posted by Quinkana
I think we can look forward to seawater de-salination costs reducing substantially over time.
Does anyone actually fancy drinking water from the Kwinana area anyway??? :scared:
#23
Originally Posted by Simone
Yes, that'll be better, because that above link is Tenix, so that can't be that reliable..... September though?! :scared:
Anyway, it's all politics at the moment, I'll wait and see what they're all saying after the elections.
Anyway, it's all politics at the moment, I'll wait and see what they're all saying after the elections.
Yes, all coming along at a snails pace.

That 4 experts on the subject will take 7+ months to report there findings is a joke.
This is a quote from the water corporation:
"We are also on track for seawater desalination, which must be operational by October 2006 in order to avoid the probability of total sprinkler bans."
Will take 2 years to build one.
#24
Originally Posted by Muzza04
Yes, all coming along at a snails pace. 
That 4 experts on the subject will take 7+ months to report there findings is a joke.
This is a quote from the water corporation:
"We are also on track for seawater desalination, which must be operational by October 2006 in order to avoid the probability of total sprinkler bans."
Will take 2 years to build one.

That 4 experts on the subject will take 7+ months to report there findings is a joke.
This is a quote from the water corporation:
"We are also on track for seawater desalination, which must be operational by October 2006 in order to avoid the probability of total sprinkler bans."
Will take 2 years to build one.
http://www.watercorporation.com.au/w...nation_faq.cfm
More general water info can be found here...
http://www.ourwaterfuture.com.au/pla...nu_options.asp
#25
Originally Posted by TheAncientGeek
Curious, reading the Water Corporation page on the desalination plant, it sounds as though it's already going ahead.
http://www.watercorporation.com.au/w...nation_faq.cfm
More general water info can be found here...
http://www.ourwaterfuture.com.au/pla...nu_options.asp
http://www.watercorporation.com.au/w...nation_faq.cfm
More general water info can be found here...
http://www.ourwaterfuture.com.au/pla...nu_options.asp
I have been down Rockingham/Kwinana way a few times recently...no evidence of building a desalination plant going on there.
#26
Originally Posted by Muzza04
I have been down Rockingham/Kwinana way a few times recently...no evidence of building a desalination plant going on there.
#27
Originally Posted by TheAncientGeek
Maybe it's invisible, or they're building it underground 

Just magic
.......Gallops dithering muppets
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Originally Posted by TheAncientGeek
Won't the salt (removed by the desalination process) simply add to the pollution down that way already?
Does anyone actually fancy drinking water from the Kwinana area anyway??? :scared:
Does anyone actually fancy drinking water from the Kwinana area anyway??? :scared:
Seawater desalination is "high bi-pass" meaning that ~50% passes through as fresh water, the other ~50% as salt water at ~200% as salty as seawater. Seawater is abundant and is relatively cheap to clean prior to desalination.
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Originally Posted by Muzza04
I have been down Rockingham/Kwinana way a few times recently...no evidence of building a desalination plant going on there.
The plant will produce up to 45 gigalitres of water each year or 130 million litres per day. This is approximately 17 per cent of the current restricted demand from the Integrated Water Supply Scheme.
http://www.watercorporation.com.au/w...nation_faq.cfm
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Originally Posted by TheAncientGeek
Won't the salt (removed by the desalination process) simply add to the pollution down that way already?
Does anyone actually fancy drinking water from the Kwinana area anyway??? :scared:
Does anyone actually fancy drinking water from the Kwinana area anyway??? :scared:
http://www.watercorporation.com.au/w...nation_faq.cfm





