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One company I worked at spent 50000 to put fibre in. Missing backhaul was an issue. Where I am now we have servers on the end of copper links because the quality is bad.

With NBN we can remove site servers and increase the availability of service to our sites. The rental costs on existing fibre sites will come right down as in a lot of places Telstra is the only operator.

The lower latency means that VoIP becomes solid and video calls are possible. That will lower the number of flights needed.

There are many more examples if you know about business networking.

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Well the NBN won't help them now as they have already spent the money.

I have ADSL and I use SKYPE video calls all the time to my head office in Melbourne. The NBN won't help me there. As for the number of flights, you can't tell me that people will stop flying because they can now see the other person better.

I know a lot about business networking. In all cases, if there is a requirement for extra speed it can normally be provided by existing suppliers. If it happens to be expensive then the company must make the judgement as to the cost and benefit provided. In the examples you have provided it seems that the business gets the benefit of reduced costs which is all well and good but that is at a cost to the taxpayer of $70 Billion.

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50,000 demostrates the need for fibre services. NBN will mean other companies setting up will not need to spend that money and will open up new business locations, even in metro areas too far from an exchange for xDSL.

Many a company already uses video conferencing to save on flights. NBN will enable more to do so. So yes I can tell you that it is an existing business benefit of video conferencing. NBN will introduce higher quality services and increase the availability of video conferencing to many more parts of the country.

If you knew about networking you would also know what sharing that ADSL link with other people will do to voice and video quality.

NBN can provide 100mbs synchronous which provides speeds close to that of a LAN. In future the technology will scale up multiple times that of copper without the latency and attenuation that makes copper useless for networking at distances.


Up front costs are estimated at around 35 billion. According to a coalition funded study, the net costs are estimated around 17 billion.

Right now business cost benefits are around the prices of existing links and available technology. NBN smashes the existing business models by making available 100mbs in places where wireless is the only option. Right know you can pay for that in some metro areas but the cost is prohibitive.

The technology of NBN is far superior. It comes down to whether the productivity improvements are greater than the $17 billion net cost. I have only highlighted a few areas NBN will help drive productivity, reduce costs and increase available services and that is just for business.

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This is me, i just moved slightly closer to the city (St Albans) & cant get ADSL for the first time in about 15 years. I'm on a RIM & apparently Telstra have no plans to update it, they were kind enough to offer me dial up connection though. :eek: So until i move again i'm stuck with crappy 3g internet.

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I had that for a long time, then all of a sudden I was able to get ADSL. According to people in the know, Telstra had done nothing to the exchange or cabling so it would have worked when I applied 6 years ago. You can thank computer illiterate Tony Windsor for agreeing with the Labor to fibre up the outback first and the odd farm in the middle of nowhere rather than the thousands of consumers like you who would have benefited from NBN had they fibred the higher population density areas first. Labor bowed to Windsor to get his vote and tucked you up.

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It is a nightmare situation and Telstra have the technology to provide Dsl on a rim. Wireless or cable are alternatives if in your street and signal strength is good enough.

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It is reminiscent of the pork barreling done in the nationals constituencies under Howard. It is a wasteful part of Australian politics.