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Re: The NBN Rip off
Originally Posted by fish.01
(Post 9727101)
I think the NBN has the promise to be one of the best policies of the decade. It will allow all sorts of innovate proactive and reactive govt service delivery in health, education, social services, transport, registrations etc just when the aging population and reduced tax base begins to really strain govt services. |
Re: The NBN Rip off
Originally Posted by NedKelly
(Post 9728230)
The NBN will remove choice. It's another government monopoly.
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Re: The NBN Rip off
Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede
(Post 9728256)
How will it remove choice? We currently have a wholesale/retail monopoly (Telstra) which will be replaced by proper retail competition.
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Re: The NBN Rip off
Originally Posted by NedKelly
(Post 9728278)
When the NBN passes your door Telstra will disconnect your copper in 18 months time so the only choce you have is NBN or nothing. The NBN wholesale prices will be be fixed by NBN to the ISP and all the ISP can do is pass the costs on with an added markiup. The only competition will be wireless.
How does that differ from Gas, Electricity, Water, Roads or the existing Telstra copper ? IInet may well be able in future to supply at sub the NBN Wholesale price because of their add on Voip and IPTV services. Other ISP's may follow. or in fact join with IInet in offering joint add on services... I think Internode are considering this. |
Re: The NBN Rip off
Originally Posted by NedKelly
(Post 9728236)
The NBN is one of the biggest white elephants a government has ever created. Where did you get this stuff, the ALP website?
The NBN is replacing the backbone infrastructure that served the last 100 years with a new backbone for the future. Wireless is not competition to copper or fibre. It is a complementary technology. The idea that wireless can compete with/replace a backbone technology is unscientific. |
Re: The NBN Rip off
Originally Posted by NedKelly
(Post 9728278)
When the NBN passes your door Telstra will disconnect your copper in 18 months time so the only choce you have is NBN or nothing. The NBN wholesale prices will be be fixed by NBN to the ISP and all the ISP can do is pass the costs on with an added markiup. The only competition will be wireless.
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Re: The NBN Rip off
Originally Posted by ozzieeagle
(Post 9728296)
How does that differ from Gas, Electricity, Water, Roads or the existing Telstra copper ?
Originally Posted by ozzieeagle
(Post 9728296)
IInet may well be able in future to supply at sub the NBN Wholesale price because of their add on Voip and IPTV services. Other ISP's may follow. or in fact join with IInet in offering joint add on services... I think Internode are considering this.
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Re: The NBN Rip off
Originally Posted by fish.01
(Post 9728298)
Pot, kettle...your views sound exactly like the coalitions sound bites without any of your own research ;)
Probably because they have thought it through like I have. Even a school boy can see spending 70 Billion Dollars to lay fibre and paying Telsta 11 Billion Dollars to rip up perfectly good cable is stupid.
Originally Posted by fish.01
(Post 9728298)
The NBN is replacing the backbone infrastructure that served the last 100 years with a new backbone for the future.
Originally Posted by fish.01
(Post 9728298)
Wireless is not competition to copper or fibre. It is a complementary technology. The idea that wireless can compete with/replace a backbone technology is unscientific. |
Re: The NBN Rip off
Originally Posted by NedKelly
(Post 9728303)
It doesn't. Have you seen the price of electricity and water lately?
Just because they might subsidise one service with another doesn't mean it is cheaper. I think NBN Co. would have something to say if it was seen that an ISP was selling it's service cheaper than they were supplying it. |
Re: The NBN Rip off
Originally Posted by ozzieeagle
(Post 9728312)
IInet already do this to Telstra.
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Re: The NBN Rip off
Originally Posted by NedKelly
(Post 9728309)
Probably because they have thought it through like I have. Even a school boy can see spending 70 Billion Dollars to lay fibre and paying Telsta 11 Billion Dollars to rip up perfectly good cable is stupid.
Isn't that what computer illiterate Windsor said? It can't compete, that's why the NBN is a worse monopoly than we already have. |
Re: The NBN Rip off
Originally Posted by fish.01
(Post 9728320)
So the alternative to the NBN is the old decaying copper network which is unsuitable for universal high speed internet - it cannot even achieve this with ADSL speeds let alone higher speeds. As you have agreed wireless cannot be a backbone technology. So what should be done in your opinion?
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Re: The NBN Rip off
Great. Telstra is rubbish. They currently fix the wholesale price.
Originally Posted by NedKelly
(Post 9728278)
When the NBN passes your door Telstra will disconnect your copper in 18 months time so the only choce you have is NBN or nothing. The NBN wholesale prices will be be fixed by NBN to the ISP and all the ISP can do is pass the costs on with an added markiup. The only competition will be wireless.
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Re: The NBN Rip off
It's all very well showing a bunch of speedtests, so what's the problem you are trying to solve. Speed may be an issue but what is the problem?
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