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Old Jan 31st 2006, 9:41 pm
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Planning to take my motorbike in my 20ft. Have been getting quotes from various shippers. All was going well until the topic of duty/sales tax can up. According to one rep I will have to pay 60% duty on whatever cost they feel my bike is worth in Oz. It states clearly in their brochure that "motorcycles/scooters being imported by first time immigrants are free of duty/sales tax" Has anyone had a similar experience and what was the outcome. Many thanks.
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Planning to take my motorbike in my 20ft. Have been getting quotes from various shippers. All was going well until the topic of duty/sales tax can up. According to one rep I will have to pay 60% duty on whatever cost they feel my bike is worth in Oz. It states clearly in their brochure that "motorcycles/scooters being imported by first time immigrants are free of duty/sales tax" Has anyone had a similar experience and what was the outcome. Many thanks.
I think it depends on the age of the bike - over 1 year old no duty - but <1 year you pay. I do stress 'Think'
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Planning to take my motorbike in my 20ft. Have been getting quotes from various shippers. All was going well until the topic of duty/sales tax can up. According to one rep I will have to pay 60% duty on whatever cost they feel my bike is worth in Oz. It states clearly in their brochure that "motorcycles/scooters being imported by first time immigrants are free of duty/sales tax" Has anyone had a similar experience and what was the outcome. Many thanks.
They are talking total crap basically. I imported my bike and you do have to pay some tax, quarantine fees etc. If you were to put aside AU$1000 then I think you wouldnt go far wrong on a bike worth about GBP6,000 in total. I can't remember the breakdown of my bill but it came to just over the thousand bucks.

However you must have owned the bike for over 12 months personally in the UK and provide evidence of this (insurance, registration docs etc).
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Try this website - it's what I was looking at when I thought about bringing a couple over.

http://www.excess-baggage.com/car_sh..._australia.php
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Planning to take my motorbike in my 20ft. Have been getting quotes from various shippers. All was going well until the topic of duty/sales tax can up. According to one rep I will have to pay 60% duty on whatever cost they feel my bike is worth in Oz. It states clearly in their brochure that "motorcycles/scooters being imported by first time immigrants are free of duty/sales tax" Has anyone had a similar experience and what was the outcome. Many thanks.
I'm going through the same thing. I'm taking 3 with me.

Take a look at this site. http://www.dotars.gov.au/transreg/vsb/vsb_10.aspx#5.02

Basially you are going to have to pay, but bikes do get a better deal than a car, older than 1998 helps with depreciation. You need to get a license to import at least 17 days before, and you need to be able to proove ownership for over a year. I'm in trouble, because one of mine I imported from Italy, never bothered registering it because it is being restored.
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Old Feb 1st 2006, 8:11 am
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Thanks to all will do a little more homework around costs before making a decision.
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Thanks to all will do a little more homework around costs before making a decision.
Hi just to let you know of our experience- we imported our Triumph Daytona into oz july last year and what we did was get the import documents from canberra- $50 -exporters wont take your bike without it, and your logbook or export document from DVLA-they should be able to tell you where you need to apply to (cant remember sorry) Upon bikes arrival in oz you have to get it valued-$100 approx then you pay G.S.T which is 10% of the value that they give you for the bike, then you have to take the bike over the pits to see if it meets thier standards (which shouldnt be difficult!) $100 approx. Then you buy the comformance plate $60 approx which is a gold sticker to stick on the headstock or somewhere it can be seen to indicate its imported and up to standard. Then you pay the rego to get it on the road $240 approx for our 955i. Last thing- dont forget to tell DVLA that you're exporting the bike! This info is applicable to bikes coming into Western Oz its prob slightly different in eastern states. Hope this is helpful
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Hi just to let you know of our experience- we imported our Triumph Daytona into oz july last year and what we did was get the import documents from canberra- $50 -exporters wont take your bike without it, and your logbook or export document from DVLA-they should be able to tell you where you need to apply to (cant remember sorry) Upon bikes arrival in oz you have to get it valued-$100 approx then you pay G.S.T which is 10% of the value that they give you for the bike, then you have to take the bike over the pits to see if it meets thier standards (which shouldnt be difficult!) $100 approx. Then you buy the comformance plate $60 approx which is a gold sticker to stick on the headstock or somewhere it can be seen to indicate its imported and up to standard. Then you pay the rego to get it on the road $240 approx for our 955i. Last thing- dont forget to tell DVLA that you're exporting the bike! This info is applicable to bikes coming into Western Oz its prob slightly different in eastern states. Hope this is helpful
This is really useful!

But of course generates a couple of questions...

What year was you Daytona?

Do you have standard exhausts on it (I'm a bit concerned I'm going to get caught out with noise).

Why did you advise about telling DVLA? To stop the road tax, or for some other reason? (I'm thinking that the Cloggy authorities are going to charge me for 2 bikes, and I'd like to avoid that. But it woudl also lead on to some other discussions about why the 3rd one is unregistered, and I think was officially scrapped in Italy)..
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Do you have standard exhausts on it (I'm a bit concerned I'm going to get caught out with noise).
I'm planning on taking my 98 red & white R1 when I go in 2 years. It's got a Ti Micron oval slip on on it at the mo, I'm gonna get a std can off ebay for it and fit that and put the micron in with other stuff.
Not sure about other bikes but you can get the std can for an older R1 for peanuts.

Would be interested to know if any other mods would be a problem e.g. aftermarket paintjob?

and also, my bike is SORN at the moment and could remain so until we go so I won't have insurance - can somebody tell me if the log book alone is sufficient as proof of ownership?

would anyone estimate the value and therefore 10% GST payable on my 98 in 2 years time? can't be much can it?

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Many thanks for the info squeezzii it helps lots and answers my question. Enjoy your biking in Oz.
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Planning to take my motorbike in my 20ft. Have been getting quotes from various shippers. All was going well until the topic of duty/sales tax can up. According to one rep I will have to pay 60% duty on whatever cost they feel my bike is worth in Oz. It states clearly in their brochure that "motorcycles/scooters being imported by first time immigrants are free of duty/sales tax" Has anyone had a similar experience and what was the outcome. Many thanks.
Mate talk to nickstids, they are off on the 4th Feb I think so get in quick. They have shipped a bike or two.

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Originally Posted by adriang
This is really useful!

But of course generates a couple of questions...

What year was you Daytona?

Do you have standard exhausts on it (I'm a bit concerned I'm going to get caught out with noise).

Why did you advise about telling DVLA? To stop the road tax, or for some other reason? (I'm thinking that the Cloggy authorities are going to charge me for 2 bikes, and I'd like to avoid that. But it woudl also lead on to some other discussions about why the 3rd one is unregistered, and I think was officially scrapped in Italy)..
Hi there, the Daytona is aug 2000- the oz people valued it pretty near what the uk dealer valued it at.The DVLA need to know for a couple of reasons-you must advise them that its going to be exported-with the new logbooks you fill in a little portion and send it off and the old logbooks you have to send the logbook off to them, but the main reason is that if you do export it but return at a later date you are liable for ALL road tax on the bike for the period you have been away however long.because you havent done a SORN
Oh yeah we didnt think they'd appreciate the blue flame system we've got so we stuck the standard one back on for the benefit of the inspection -so far the WA constabulary dont seem to mind the blue flame-either that or they're deaf (no offence people!)
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Hi there, the Daytona is aug 2000- the oz people valued it pretty near what the uk dealer valued it at.The DVLA need to know for a couple of reasons-you must advise them that its going to be exported-with the new logbooks you fill in a little portion and send it off and the old logbooks you have to send the logbook off to them, but the main reason is that if you do export it but return at a later date you are liable for ALL road tax on the bike for the period you have been away however long.because you havent done a SORN
Oh yeah we didnt think they'd appreciate the blue flame system we've got so we stuck the standard one back on for the benefit of the inspection -so far the WA constabulary dont seem to mind the blue flame-either that or they're deaf (no offence people!)
OK, great info again, thanks a lot.

I'm still trying to determine if I am able to import 3 bikes. I've read the brochure, and it is a bit contradictory.

I've a Ducati that would fall into the personal import category (that has big bore Termi's on it, and it is pretty loud, but it is the deep Ducati sound.).

I've also got a pair of 1960's Lambretta scooters, and I want to bring them both. They should be eligible under the before Jan 1989 scheme, but not sure if I can bring in all 3. I'm still waiting on a reply from the Dept of Transport.

If I had to make a choice, it would be the Duc, but the Lambrettas took ages to find, are both restored, and great for posing around town!
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Be very interested to hear the outcome mate.

Planning on taking mine too, only 12 months old, but is it worth it?

Not started getting quotes yet so will watch this thread with interest.

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Has anyone imported a Custom Bike (not Virago,drag star or any of the other tarts handbags).
A proper Hardtail Chop/Custom, with one off everything.
We're hoping to import 2 chops and it seems like a bit of a nightmare.
Been told by a Guy in Bris that deals with imported bikes that it's a pain in the arse but can be done.

Any info greatfully received.

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