shafanm

shafanm

Well well, you want Uncle Kevin to be fair ? then have some babies

canadaeh

The poor can have children all they want, just don’t expect me to pay for them.

I have no problem with people receiving some benefits for the Children (as much as it does annoy me) but what’s more annoying is giving it to a migrant, I’m sorry, but if you cannot afford such a move with Children then you shouldn’t be moving.

If I was unemployed I’d apply for government help, but that’s only because I’ve paid a lot in taxes over the years.

It should be the same for families, they should assume they’ll be arriving with enough money to sustain their family for 2 years.

Jen1977ni

No chance! lol

shafanm

It is being said over and over again that migrants are a net asset to Australia and the tax dept. All migrants bring loaded with skills, qualification and experience for which investment on education/ training were done by some other country and it is a net net benefit for Oz, So given some benefit for the kids education ect ect. is not a big deal further these children will contribute handsomely to the Australian economy latter on. Australian Gov realises this as an investment with a long term return.

Further only very few migrants would go for the Center link because after two year wait period most of them can stand on their feet. Has said, the FTB is for the children who will bring much greater benefit to Oz.

I guess you are not a migrant or a very rich migrant or completely ignorant of the ground realities of a modern economy.

coolshadows

Most modern countries offer some form of child benefit, if Australia didn't I can't see why a fair number of migrating families would bother coming here. Why would you migrate at vast expense only to end up significantly worst off? Or are you going to tell me that the wages here are much better?

Should Australia's new line be "Come to Australia, but don't bring your kids - they're not wanted" ?

canadaeh

Who said anything about the wages being better here?

Not at all, but something along the lines of “Come to Australia – just don’t expect your lifestyle to be sustained by Australians” might be good?

We just have different opinions’, simple as that. I prefer to make my own money and sustain a lifestyle suitable to it; I wouldn’t be ok living on someone else’s money. I applied for Centrelink when I moved here a few years ago (Citizen), but never got it as I found a job in time, but the only reason I felt ok about it was I had paid my taxes here before. Like I said, if I became unemployed I’d certainly apply for unemployment benefits as I have contributed my taxes to it.

I’ve moved back and forth from Australia a few times and I know that I wouldn’t ever make the move expecting my new country to pick up the tab if I hadn’t already contributed to it.

If I had children I’d make sure I have an income that could support them.

So I’ll agree to disagree.

coolshadows

I pay taxes too.

canadaeh

I’m not saying you don’t. If you contributed then I don’t care if you get child benefit. It’s the fact that someone can just arrive and from day one get it that annoys me. There should be a waiting period – just like unemployment benefits. Do you think it would be fair for someone to get that from day 1?

coolshadows

Child benefit, Yes. Unemployment benefit, No.

You also have to take into consideration all the temporary visa holders getting LAFHA - Living Away From Home Allowance.

IndieG

Yes, if you look at it as the Government's investment into the future of Australia? I've given you an example of how it works (although you haven't answered my question there). Some immigrants may not have a lot of money but bring with them plenty of skills. These skills coupled with their determination to succeed will ultimately pay off when they start working and begin paying taxes.

Surely the govt. must have some statistics to find out how many skilled migrants end up becoming chronic dole bludgers vs how many go on to contribute towards taxes?

Sass73

Best of luck with the job hunting Jen. We're in the same boat regarding wages - Hubbie's been out of work for nearly 6 months and he's getting so frustrated with the lack of respect shown by some of the recruitment agencies. I keep chanting 'patience is a virtue' too!

Sass73

Back to the topic of the post, Footscray has a great market that is quite cheap http://www.onlymelbourne.com.au/melb...ls.php?id=1387
There's also Aldi and NQR for groceries but most of the grocery shops around Footscray are also probably cheaper than Coles or Woolies.

shafanm

Any idea current rental market in and around Footscray area, preferably two bedroom apartment.

shafanm

What kind of job is your hubby looking for ?