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Reedy Feb 16th 2008 8:01 pm

Re: Melbourne or Sydney !!!!!
 

Originally Posted by tilliewilde (Post 5926380)
Hi to everyone living in beautiful Australia, but i have a really important question to ask "Living in Melbourne or living in Sydney" i am currently talking my husband around to moving over to u guys next year from France , and hopefully the Australians are welcoming and friendly compared to the French and there isnt a n anti brit attitude. And well i have been looking at both cities and trying to decide which city is better for my family.

So married two young children 3 and 5, professional couple will bring business out, enjoy going out to restaurants , bars, having parties at home, meeting up with other families, going to the beach. We live in the South of France and love the weather here.

Melbourne seems like a smaller laid back place with trendy bars , great beaches, plenty of space and the school seem good. Sydney faster pace and busy. Tell me where is better for a young professional family to live for the rest of our lives. Well nearly. Looking forward to hearing replies thye for and against would be perfect. We are coming over for 6 weeks Dec and Jan spending 3 wk in Melbourne. 2 wks in Sydney and 1 wk in Brisbane.

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I lived in Sydney (for 2 1/2 weeks:lol:) and moved to Melbourne - nothing to do with the city more to do with circumstances. Here is my opinion if you want it.....

Sydney has more expensive housing by about 80%+
Sydney has nicer beaches undoubtedly but Melbournes beaches aren't bad in fact they are very good!!!
The people in Melbourne in my opinion are friendlier in general
Melbourne is cleaner - less pollution (again my opinion!!!)
Food quality, eating out, choice of restaurants etc I would say are equal.
Same with things to do - parks, zoos etc...

If you are not sure and you have the time / money, check them both out and see for yourself... As with all places one of them will feel right for you -

Melbourne feels more right for me:)

Lau x

saveme Feb 16th 2008 8:43 pm

Re: Melbourne or Sydney !!!!!
 
[QUOTE=BadgeIsBack;5943549]hmmmm... I'd say Melbourne was more like San Francisco(!). Chicago has more of a negative connotation to me, personally.
QUOTE]


I admit (mea culpa) I was being deliberately a little negative but only in the sense that I think that Chicago is the USA's 'second city'?

What I really wanted to say was 'Melbourne is Birmingham to Sydney's London (and that is an insult to Birmingham!)

Pomster Feb 17th 2008 11:35 am

Re: Melbourne or Sydney !!!!!
 
but really it is all horses for courses.

I love living in Melbourne and feel it offers everything I want.

Some friends of ours are from Moscow. They lived in Melbourne for 10 years. 2 years ago work took them to Sydney. She loves it there- says everyone is so friendly and she has settled in amazingly. He would move back to Melbourne in a second.

BadgeIsBack Feb 17th 2008 5:33 pm

Re: Melbourne or Sydney !!!!!
 
[QUOTE=saveme;5944282]

Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack (Post 5943549)
hmmmm... I'd say Melbourne was more like San Francisco(!). Chicago has more of a negative connotation to me, personally.
QUOTE]


I admit (mea culpa) I was being deliberately a little negative but only in the sense that I think that Chicago is the USA's 'second city'?

What I really wanted to say was 'Melbourne is Birmingham to Sydney's London (and that is an insult to Birmingham!)

It would have helped I guess knowing that Chicago is the US's second city.:) Is it? I suppose it is. San Francisco itself is quite small but combined with San Jose and the Bay area it is large.

tilliewilde Feb 18th 2008 12:28 am

Re: Melbourne or Sydney !!!!!
 

Originally Posted by Reedy (Post 5944125)
I lived in Sydney (for 2 1/2 weeks:lol:) and moved to Melbourne - nothing to do with the city more to do with circumstances. Here is my opinion if you want it.....

Sydney has more expensive housing by about 80%+
Sydney has nicer beaches undoubtedly but Melbournes beaches aren't bad in fact they are very good!!!
The people in Melbourne in my opinion are friendlier in general
Melbourne is cleaner - less pollution (again my opinion!!!)
Food quality, eating out, choice of restaurants etc I would say are equal.
Same with things to do - parks, zoos etc...

If you are not sure and you have the time / money, check them both out and see for yourself... As with all places one of them will feel right for you -

Melbourne feels more right for me:)

Lau x

HI Lau

Thanks for ur reply, a larger percent of u guys seem to say that Melbourne is a better place and am going to take all comments on board. I will still stick to the plan 3wks in Melbourne and 2 wks in Sydney. Best start planning my trip. So if we love it omg is visa time how much of a nightmare is that going to be. I thought it would be better going through an agency and letting them do all the hard wk and ground wk, has anyone used an agent before and how did u get on ???

Tillie x:thumbsup:

charliegirl Feb 18th 2008 7:14 pm

Re: Melbourne or Sydney !!!!!
 
Melbourne has four seasons, dry and hot summers, cool and wet winters, mild sunny autumns, and sunny but cool spring weather.

The bars are good, so are the restaurants and cafes, the lifestyle is more relaxed, the city itself is nice, the public transport is extensive, there are plenty of parks, property is cheaper, the inner city beaches are ok. The surf beaches on the coast are amazing. There is plenty of Victorian and Federation architecture. It's the sort of place where people are more into art, sport, reading, and talking politics.

Sydney has a huge WOW factor because of the harbour. Be under no illusion that the harbour is sublime. The city centre is OK but not as nice as Melbourne. The beaches are total winners, the bar scene is small, instead there are a large number of big pubs with plenty of intoxicated men. The cafes and restaurants are as good as Melbourne but more expensive. Housing and public transport is also more expensive. Sydney has mild and sunny winters, and warm, very humid summers.

I agree with one of the other comments saying Melb is like San Fran and Syd is like LA.

Both are great. It may come down to if you want more of an outdoor life (Sydney) or a book, arts and bars life (Melbourne).

tilliewilde Feb 19th 2008 3:45 am

Re: Melbourne or Sydney !!!!!
 

Originally Posted by charliegirl (Post 5952508)
Melbourne has four seasons, dry and hot summers, cool and wet winters, mild sunny autumns, and sunny but cool spring weather.

The bars are good, so are the restaurants and cafes, the lifestyle is more relaxed, the city itself is nice, the public transport is extensive, there are plenty of parks, property is cheaper, the inner city beaches are ok. The surf beaches on the coast are amazing. There is plenty of Victorian and Federation architecture. It's the sort of place where people are more into art, sport, reading, and talking politics.

Sydney has a huge WOW factor because of the harbour. Be under no illusion that the harbour is sublime. The city centre is OK but not as nice as Melbourne. The beaches are total winners, the bar scene is small, instead there are a large number of big pubs with plenty of intoxicated men. The cafes and restaurants are as good as Melbourne but more expensive. Housing and public transport is also more expensive. Sydney has mild and sunny winters, and warm, very humid summers.

I agree with one of the other comments saying Melb is like San Fran and Syd is like LA.

Both are great. It may come down to if you want more of an outdoor life (Sydney) or a book, arts and bars life (Melbourne).

Charliegirl u have summed so much up for me,ur description of both amazing cities is perfect :thumbsup:.Thank you. I love the fact that Melbourne has different seasons i dont like the weather being to hot for to long i look forward to winter, the change in the air, trees and people. I like the fact that Melbourne has plenty of parks and has a relaxed atmosphere plus i want to be amongst people who enjoy life. The beaches are quite important but not at the top of my list. A big bonus for me is ART i love it, plus i am a writer so reading and writing my book in a park on a sunny day apeals to me.:D. Formula 1 is perfect for my husband as he goes to Monaco and Monza every year. May get into cricket !!!!. How easy is it to meet new people ? does Melbourne have a social network.

Thanks xx

charliegirl Feb 19th 2008 1:32 pm

Re: Melbourne or Sydney !!!!!
 
Melbourne is a bit more on the conservative side than Sydney as far as social circles go. But what you will find is that Melbourne people are more down to earth, less pretentious - in general.

How easy it is to meet people will depend on you. It's like moving to any city, you will really need to make the effort to join groups, be friendly, to invite people over for lunch or a bbq.

Melbourne has plenty of book clubs, and your local library may have a list of what groups may be around, or your local community centre.

If you like reading and writing, you may want to suss out some of the inner, more creative suburbs like St Kilda or Prahran. In the inner west there is a great community minded suburb called Kensington. Carlton, and especially North Carlton, is a huge favourite of mine. Carlton is a university suburb and North Carlton has a large number of creative professional types. North Fitzroy is good too. Northcote which is kind of near both has an earthy arty feel to it.

Anyway, hope that's of some help to you. Feel free to ask more questions and if I can help, I will.

Buzzy--Bee Feb 19th 2008 2:33 pm

Re: Melbourne or Sydney !!!!!
 

Originally Posted by charliegirl (Post 5952508)
Melbourne has four seasons, dry and hot summers, cool and wet winters, mild sunny autumns, and sunny but cool spring weather.

The bars are good, so are the restaurants and cafes, the lifestyle is more relaxed, the city itself is nice, the public transport is extensive, there are plenty of parks, property is cheaper, the inner city beaches are ok. The surf beaches on the coast are amazing. There is plenty of Victorian and Federation architecture. It's the sort of place where people are more into art, sport, reading, and talking politics.

Sydney has a huge WOW factor because of the harbour. Be under no illusion that the harbour is sublime. The city centre is OK but not as nice as Melbourne. The beaches are total winners, the bar scene is small, instead there are a large number of big pubs with plenty of intoxicated men. The cafes and restaurants are as good as Melbourne but more expensive. Housing and public transport is also more expensive. Sydney has mild and sunny winters, and warm, very humid summers.

I agree with one of the other comments saying Melb is like San Fran and Syd is like LA.

Both are great. It may come down to if you want more of an outdoor life (Sydney) or a book, arts and bars life (Melbourne).

That is one of the most sensible posts I have ever read comparing the two cities. I would just add though, that when Charliegirl says that Melbourne's winters are "cool", she is quite right, they are not "cold" like UK cold. 10-15 degrees during the day.

Oh, and Melbourne has the bigger harbour by a long way! Its so big, that from the Eastern beaches you can watch the sun setting into the sea, you can't do that with Sydney's harbour!

Buzzy

talbot Feb 19th 2008 2:53 pm

Re: Melbourne or Sydney !!!!!
 

Originally Posted by Reedy (Post 5944125)
I lived in Sydney (for 2 1/2 weeks:lol:) and moved to Melbourne - nothing to do with the city more to do with circumstances. Here is my opinion if you want it.....

Sydney has more expensive housing by about 80%+
Sydney has nicer beaches undoubtedly but Melbournes beaches aren't bad in fact they are very good!!!
The people in Melbourne in my opinion are friendlier in general
Melbourne is cleaner - less pollution (again my opinion!!!)
Food quality, eating out, choice of restaurants etc I would say are equal.
Same with things to do - parks, zoos etc...

If you are not sure and you have the time / money, check them both out and see for yourself... As with all places one of them will feel right for you -

Melbourne feels more right for me:)

Lau x

I agree, Melbourne is the place to be.
A few other comparisons - Sydney has the uncomfortable humidity whereas we don't.
If you're scared of sharks come to Melbourne....we're in a bay so have neither sharks nor big surf/currents etc - perfect for kiddies.

My husband is from Sydney and prefers the life here and that's saying something!

Kristo Feb 19th 2008 3:01 pm

Re: Melbourne or Sydney !!!!!
 
Is it really fair to compare Sydney to LA?

Perhaps they have the same "feel" I don't really know, but LA is very, very ugly. Sydney is vastly easier on the eye, imho.

Buzzy--Bee Feb 19th 2008 3:06 pm

Re: Melbourne or Sydney !!!!!
 

Originally Posted by Kristo (Post 5957170)
Is it really fair to compare Sydney to LA?

Perhaps they have the same "feel" I don't really know, but LA is very, very ugly. Sydney is vastly easier on the eye, imho.

It's a bit of a generalization to call a city 60 miles wide ugly!

I love LA, some of the most beautiful bits include -

- San Bernadino valley
- Hermosa/Manhatten beach
- Valley Village
- Newport Beach
- Bel Air

etc etc

Buzzy

Jacque Feb 19th 2008 3:13 pm

Re: Melbourne or Sydney !!!!!
 

Originally Posted by Reedy (Post 5944125)
I lived in Sydney (for 2 1/2 weeks:lol:) and moved to Melbourne - nothing to do with the city more to do with circumstances. Here is my opinion if you want it.....

Sydney has more expensive housing by about 80%+....

Lau x

Have you had a look at Melbourne's median housing price lately? It's only 20% lower than Sydney's, and growing, with it's most recent boom. Check out this recent Age article for some further info:

http://www.theage.com.au/news/nation...157560368.html

Each to their own but Sydney definitely does it for me over Melb. I love Melb shopping and art and culture but Sydney is just more exciting for me :)
Not just the beautiful blue harbour, beaches, national parks, myriad of activities and endless places to explore but we also live in a really gorgeous state which includes the amazing Blue Mountains and Central and South Coasts- so much to offer for short breaks if you feel the need to depart the city.

And as far as milder weather is concerned!! be aware that Melb summers can be killers!! Just this summer they had 40degree heat over several days...

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2...10/2135731.htm

Both cities suffer from heat overloads in the summer, but Sydney's definitely had a mild summer this year. I must say I don't think the humidity makes that much of a difference. I lived in Brisbane for 4 yrs and that was really hot!!

Only you will know when you check out both cities, which you prefer, but keep in mind that life would be boring if we all liked the same things- viva la difference and enjoy the trip :)

Kristo Feb 19th 2008 4:16 pm

Re: Melbourne or Sydney !!!!!
 

Originally Posted by Buzzy--Bee (Post 5957182)
It's a bit of a generalization to call a city 60 miles wide ugly!

I love LA, some of the most beautiful bits include -

- San Bernadino valley
- Hermosa/Manhatten beach
- Valley Village
- Newport Beach
- Bel Air

etc etc

Buzzy

Fair enough Buzzy :) Sounds like you know LA well, and I don't. It's just that on my short aquaintance with down-townish LA I was struck by how run-down and dirty it looked. I thought it looked unloved and sad. So much so that I still find myself wondering over it weeks later.

I can't think of any part of Sydney Harbour/downtown area that leaves me with quite the deflated feeling that LA did.

But, again, I'm just recounting an opinion formed after only a few hours in LA - and I hate it when people insult my hometown of Adelaide after a short look, so your point is well taken :embaressed_smile:

The Crow Feb 19th 2008 5:50 pm

Re: Melbourne or Sydney !!!!!
 

Originally Posted by Jacque (Post 5957198)

Both cities suffer from heat overloads in the summer, but Sydney's definitely had a mild summer this year. I must say I don't think the humidity makes that much of a difference. I lived in Brisbane for 4 yrs and that was really hot!!

I, personally, find humidity a big difference. We usually get a week or so of humid weather in the high 20s - and for me that is a killer - I'd much prefer a few days 38+ dry heat instead :) I can't do humidity...


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