The Many Stages of Poms
Apr 3rd 2003, 5:43 am
#31
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I discovered a story on CNN.com which stated that according to a poll by YouGov, 54% of UK people polled wished to emigrate. Now, at first this may seem high, and I think it had increased in recent years, but it isn't that suprising. Take any poll of a suitable number of people on a fairly benign issue and you're going to get half in favour and half against. in fact CNN had a poll repsonse on 'would you emigrate from your country?' which had 52% saying yes and 48% saying no. On the assumption that respondents were primarily US citizens (the top preferred destination for Brits apparently) given it's CNN, or indeed a reflection of people internationally, it just ties in with the British poll. i.e. half say yes, half say no, it says nothing about the UK that about half would like to emigrate elsewhere.
Ask me if I want chips for my tea and just over half the time I'd say no, this means I'm indifferent, not that I have some strong hatred of chips!!
I find it strange that some UK residents are so anti-UK that they want to leave and live elsewhere. The UK is a great place to live and given its high hurdles for immigration (and indeed attraction to illegal immigrants) I would think there a lot of people who would love to live there.
Anyone seriously thinking of leaving the UK for Oz (or elsewhere) cos it's got crime, it rains, the politicians are crap, whatever, needs to think whether they have the correct motivations, they will find the same (or often much worse) wherever they go. Moving abroad is not moving to Utopia and is not a quick fix to all your perceived ills. Me, I came to Oz because I applied for a job and got it. I'd never had a burning desire to come here and certainly no burning desire to leave the UK either. It just seemed like a good thing to try out, new experiences and all that. As it happens it's quite difficult to adjust but it's working so far. Don't know if I'll stay long, or indeed return to the UK, but lets not run down the UK too hastily.
I suggest some open-mindedness about expectations of living abroad, it's not just one big long holiday. And, unless you are under some sort of political or religious persecution in your home country(not many could claim that in the UK), don't have as your motivation for leaving the fact that you dislike where you are, otherwise your dreams will be dashed when you awake to the reality of living abroad.
Ask me if I want chips for my tea and just over half the time I'd say no, this means I'm indifferent, not that I have some strong hatred of chips!!
I find it strange that some UK residents are so anti-UK that they want to leave and live elsewhere. The UK is a great place to live and given its high hurdles for immigration (and indeed attraction to illegal immigrants) I would think there a lot of people who would love to live there.
Anyone seriously thinking of leaving the UK for Oz (or elsewhere) cos it's got crime, it rains, the politicians are crap, whatever, needs to think whether they have the correct motivations, they will find the same (or often much worse) wherever they go. Moving abroad is not moving to Utopia and is not a quick fix to all your perceived ills. Me, I came to Oz because I applied for a job and got it. I'd never had a burning desire to come here and certainly no burning desire to leave the UK either. It just seemed like a good thing to try out, new experiences and all that. As it happens it's quite difficult to adjust but it's working so far. Don't know if I'll stay long, or indeed return to the UK, but lets not run down the UK too hastily.
I suggest some open-mindedness about expectations of living abroad, it's not just one big long holiday. And, unless you are under some sort of political or religious persecution in your home country(not many could claim that in the UK), don't have as your motivation for leaving the fact that you dislike where you are, otherwise your dreams will be dashed when you awake to the reality of living abroad.
Apr 3rd 2003, 5:48 am
#32
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Originally posted by Ceri
Stop whinging and get out and explore Britain rain or shine - you have no clue. Don't you think it rains here too, and does not have bad weather , don't you think we have crime here? and sh*te politics, and parasites and pollution too .In the past couple of months we've had dreadful rain, only in the past couple of weeks has it stopped, and dried up a bit .
Stop whinging and get out and explore Britain rain or shine - you have no clue. Don't you think it rains here too, and does not have bad weather , don't you think we have crime here? and sh*te politics, and parasites and pollution too .In the past couple of months we've had dreadful rain, only in the past couple of weeks has it stopped, and dried up a bit .
You have raised a very good talking point , just how much has any of us traveled in the UK in 34 years I can only say that I seen maybe 25% of if and thats going out most weekends and holidays etc.
The land mass is a lot less than Australia but far more to see with less traveling time involved , I would be interested to know just how much the good people on this forum have traveled?
Apr 3rd 2003, 5:53 am
#33
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Originally posted by jayr
I discovered a story on CNN.com which stated that according to a poll by YouGov, 54% of UK people polled wished to emigrate. Now, at first this may seem high, and I think it had increased in recent years, but it isn't that suprising. Take any poll of a suitable number of people on a fairly benign issue and you're going to get half in favour and half against. in fact CNN had a poll repsonse on 'would you emigrate from your country?' which had 52% saying yes and 48% saying no. On the assumption that respondents were primarily US citizens (the top preferred destination for Brits apparently) given it's CNN, or indeed a reflection of people internationally, it just ties in with the British poll. i.e. half say yes, half say no, it says nothing about the UK that about half would like to emigrate elsewhere.
Ask me if I want chips for my tea and just over half the time I'd say no, this means I'm indifferent, not that I have some strong hatred of chips!!
I find it strange that some UK residents are so anti-UK that they want to leave and live elsewhere. The UK is a great place to live and given its high hurdles for immigration (and indeed attraction to illegal immigrants) I would think there a lot of people who would love to live there.
Anyone seriously thinking of leaving the UK for Oz (or elsewhere) cos it's got crime, it rains, the politicians are crap, whatever, needs to think whether they have the correct motivations, they will find the same (or often much worse) wherever they go. Moving abroad is not moving to Utopia and is not a quick fix to all your perceived ills. Me, I came to Oz because I applied for a job and got it. I'd never had a burning desire to come here and certainly no burning desire to leave the UK either. It just seemed like a good thing to try out, new experiences and all that. As it happens it's quite difficult to adjust but it's working so far. Don't know if I'll stay long, or indeed return to the UK, but lets not run down the UK too hastily.
I suggest some open-mindedness about expectations of living abroad, it's not just one big long holiday. And, unless you are under some sort of political or religious persecution in your home country(not many could claim that in the UK), don't have as your motivation for leaving the fact that you dislike where you are, otherwise your dreams will be dashed when you awake to the reality of living abroad.
I discovered a story on CNN.com which stated that according to a poll by YouGov, 54% of UK people polled wished to emigrate. Now, at first this may seem high, and I think it had increased in recent years, but it isn't that suprising. Take any poll of a suitable number of people on a fairly benign issue and you're going to get half in favour and half against. in fact CNN had a poll repsonse on 'would you emigrate from your country?' which had 52% saying yes and 48% saying no. On the assumption that respondents were primarily US citizens (the top preferred destination for Brits apparently) given it's CNN, or indeed a reflection of people internationally, it just ties in with the British poll. i.e. half say yes, half say no, it says nothing about the UK that about half would like to emigrate elsewhere.
Ask me if I want chips for my tea and just over half the time I'd say no, this means I'm indifferent, not that I have some strong hatred of chips!!
I find it strange that some UK residents are so anti-UK that they want to leave and live elsewhere. The UK is a great place to live and given its high hurdles for immigration (and indeed attraction to illegal immigrants) I would think there a lot of people who would love to live there.
Anyone seriously thinking of leaving the UK for Oz (or elsewhere) cos it's got crime, it rains, the politicians are crap, whatever, needs to think whether they have the correct motivations, they will find the same (or often much worse) wherever they go. Moving abroad is not moving to Utopia and is not a quick fix to all your perceived ills. Me, I came to Oz because I applied for a job and got it. I'd never had a burning desire to come here and certainly no burning desire to leave the UK either. It just seemed like a good thing to try out, new experiences and all that. As it happens it's quite difficult to adjust but it's working so far. Don't know if I'll stay long, or indeed return to the UK, but lets not run down the UK too hastily.
I suggest some open-mindedness about expectations of living abroad, it's not just one big long holiday. And, unless you are under some sort of political or religious persecution in your home country(not many could claim that in the UK), don't have as your motivation for leaving the fact that you dislike where you are, otherwise your dreams will be dashed when you awake to the reality of living abroad.
, if you have just read it - on similar lines to your own...- I didn't want to start an argument. But some people really have they head in the sky, and don't seem to realise that the things they are whinging about - same here in Aus. And they seem to think all Brit's have left because of prob's in Britian - not true, I for one did not leave for that reason - it was a job offer which was one hell of an opportunity in Singapore - I've just managed to end up in Aus with the company
Apr 3rd 2003, 5:58 am
#34
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I've been around the UK a bit, but not nearly as much as I now wish I had. Even not going to the real tourist places (Buck Palace etc.) is regretted somewhat now. I wish I'd thought on and had a bit of a last look round before leaving, I suspect return trips will not offer much opportunity to do this either.
To all intended expats, get out around your country and take in what you've got, you will not see it's like again when in Oz.
To all intended expats, get out around your country and take in what you've got, you will not see it's like again when in Oz.
Apr 3rd 2003, 6:01 am
#35
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Originally posted by pommie bastard
You have raised a very good talking point , just how much has any of us traveled in the UK in 34 years I can only say that I seen maybe 25% of if and thats going out most weekends and holidays etc.
The land mass is a lot less than Australia but far more to see with less traveling time involved , I would be interested to know just how much the good people on this forum have traveled?
You have raised a very good talking point , just how much has any of us traveled in the UK in 34 years I can only say that I seen maybe 25% of if and thats going out most weekends and holidays etc.
The land mass is a lot less than Australia but far more to see with less traveling time involved , I would be interested to know just how much the good people on this forum have traveled?
Shame is for every immigrate who has something to offer to the growth of Australia there are 3 more who give nothing of any worth.
Apr 3rd 2003, 6:09 am
#36
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And, for all those beloved dreamers, it's just started pissing it down (in Brisbane) and has gone really dark. Thank God I have brought my umbrella to work (as I try to remember most days) or I will get soaked through as I leave. After the best part of a month of rain every day, and the uncertainty (sunshine in the morning - storm in the afternoon) I start to feel it would be better called Brisb-rain.
Apr 3rd 2003, 8:26 am
#37
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Originally posted by Ceri
I can't get the page - is that link working?
anyone want to post some beaches in Cornwall too - after my beaches in Gower - I'm a cornwall fan - sorry I do not know many of the other beaches in England - I haven't travelled through England much, and only used to holiday in Cornwall and Devon.
cheers
I can't get the page - is that link working?
anyone want to post some beaches in Cornwall too - after my beaches in Gower - I'm a cornwall fan - sorry I do not know many of the other beaches in England - I haven't travelled through England much, and only used to holiday in Cornwall and Devon.
cheers
There are some wonderful beaches in Cornwall and Devon been to both places many times, unfortuately though there are also many of them used as toilets by dogs owners, they have no shame and will let their dogs crap where your children are paddling. However there are a few where dogs are not aloud in Devon I know this as we go to them, in South Devon.
Marlo
