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-8% is only in 2 years, but it started earlier and still going. Overall should be like -30% or about that. Personally, after spending almost 10 years to get in, I don't really feel it worth the efforts. There is no way to buy a house before retirement, finding a job takes up to a year if you don't want to work for food. And there is no future prospects that things will get better, as one government enjoys high property prices and clearly says they want them growing, and another one is primarily focused on spending all future money for generations upfront on something dodgy, but definitely giving them personally well-paid director jobs after political career. Yeah, nah.
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-8% is only in 2 years, but it started earlier and still going. Overall should be like -30% or about that. Personally, after spending almost 10 years to get in, I don't really feel it worth the efforts. There is no way to buy a house before retirement, finding a job takes up to a year if you don't want to work for food. And there is no future prospects that things will get better, as one government enjoys high property prices and clearly says they want them growing, and another one is primarily focused on spending all future money for generations upfront on something dodgy, but definitely giving them personally well-paid director jobs after political career. Yeah, nah.
Something may happen to correct house prices. I think that Australia has a massive resource advantage over the UK and this may become more important in the future. For example the UK does not have energy, food or border security. IMO Australia does.
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That's right, Australia does have a lot of resources, especially energy. And guess who benefits from it? Japan. Australia is generous corrupt enough to give away billions of dollars every year, and while exporting gas more than Qatar, gets almost nothing in return. As a humble citizen that managed to have a lucky year, you will pay 45% of income tax, while energy company will barely pay 1%. And the same is in every direction wherever you look. Only 5% of the most rich Aussies live well and enjoy little to no taxes, while 13% live in poverty.
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That's right, Australia does have a lot of resources, especially energy. And guess who benefits from it? Japan. Australia is generous corrupt enough to give away billions of dollars every year, and while exporting gas more than Qatar, gets almost nothing in return. As a humble citizen that managed to have a lucky year, you will pay 45% of income tax, while energy company will barely pay 1%. And the same is in every direction wherever you look. Only 5% of the most rich Aussies live well and enjoy little to no taxes, while 13% live in poverty.
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Vote? Elections is a joke nowadays. Just before the elections both major parties secretly met to quickly sign a new law that would nearly prevent any other political force to participate in elections. That's because they noticed that people have had enough of them both and their ratings were decreasing, but now people will have even less choice. And they are not going to change free gas for Japan, tax cashback for rich property owners, and other dodgy laws hanging outside of logic. There is no hope here.
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Hmm, I think you are broadly correct regarding %. I find the UK figure nonsensical in comparison unless it has been heavily skewed by recent public sector pay awards.
Something may happen to correct house prices. I think that Australia has a massive resource advantage over the UK and this may become more important in the future. For example the UK does not have energy, food or border security. IMO Australia does.
Something may happen to correct house prices. I think that Australia has a massive resource advantage over the UK and this may become more important in the future. For example the UK does not have energy, food or border security. IMO Australia does.
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I find living in the UK to be cheaper than when I lived in Australia (I left Aus in 2010), we do have food and supply around 50% of our own energy (this could be more is we fracked and used the true potential of the North Sea) at the moment our border security is a joke but much better off than in Europe and the USA, most people would like off shore processing or as in Australia to “turn the boats back†but here human rights take precedence.
But one thing Australia does have that the UK does not is the ability to apply for a refugee visa offshore.
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Crime rate has increased by ~30% nationwide in one year because of these guys youtubedotcom/watch?v=zEiWD-XQFmQ
And they are not indigenous aussies.
Wait, not only them. There's also youth crime frenzy, which is about any teenagers. The video above is a combo of both reasons.
And they are not indigenous aussies.
Wait, not only them. There's also youth crime frenzy, which is about any teenagers. The video above is a combo of both reasons.
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Google results returned youth crime in Victoria increased by 30% but that story was 12 months old
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-03-...outh/103614280
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Here 2 days old youtudotbe/Xm4UOew-62Q?t=94
Specifically in Vic retail crime, on the 32nd second they say +89% since 2023.
Specifically in Vic retail crime, on the 32nd second they say +89% since 2023.
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This is a typical news report on the official YouTube channel of the 9 News, not my claim. Feels like you are scared to accept the reality
That explains why you don't mind keeping illegal immigrants, you refuse to know what they do, therefore they do nothing bad in your personal world.

To be fair, I must say that this is not only because of the illegal immigrants. In the last 3 years the government legally brought ~1.5 million people because without them economy recession would be way worse. With them there is a bit of GDP and other money things growing. But liberals don't think in long term, unfortunately. Nobody created 1.5 million jobs for them, or built the same amount of housing. They become a burden that needs jobs and housing, which Australia desperately needed even without them. And what do the government (both parties) want to do? Keep bringing more. Slight reduction keeps overall numbers above pre-covid time. So, unemployed people, having no jobs, having no money for rent because Centrelink does not cover price growth, or even no Centrelink because they are immigrants, they will commit crimes just to get money for living as soon as their savings will be depleted. And no one plans to fix it. There is no hope.
That explains why you don't mind keeping illegal immigrants, you refuse to know what they do, therefore they do nothing bad in your personal world.
To be fair, I must say that this is not only because of the illegal immigrants. In the last 3 years the government legally brought ~1.5 million people because without them economy recession would be way worse. With them there is a bit of GDP and other money things growing. But liberals don't think in long term, unfortunately. Nobody created 1.5 million jobs for them, or built the same amount of housing. They become a burden that needs jobs and housing, which Australia desperately needed even without them. And what do the government (both parties) want to do? Keep bringing more. Slight reduction keeps overall numbers above pre-covid time. So, unemployed people, having no jobs, having no money for rent because Centrelink does not cover price growth, or even no Centrelink because they are immigrants, they will commit crimes just to get money for living as soon as their savings will be depleted. And no one plans to fix it. There is no hope.
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This is a typical news report on the official YouTube channel of the 9 News, not my claim. Feels like you are scared to accept the reality
That explains why you don't mind keeping illegal immigrants, you refuse to know what they do, therefore they do nothing bad in your personal world.
To be fair, I must say that this is not only because of the illegal immigrants. In the last 3 years the government legally brought ~1.5 million people because without them economy recession would be way worse. With them there is a bit of GDP and other money things growing. But liberals don't think in long term, unfortunately. Nobody created 1.5 million jobs for them, or built the same amount of housing. They become a burden that needs jobs and housing, which Australia desperately needed even without them. And what do the government (both parties) want to do? Keep bringing more. Slight reduction keeps overall numbers above pre-covid time. So, unemployed people, having no jobs, having no money for rent because Centrelink does not cover price growth, or even no Centrelink because they are immigrants, they will commit crimes just to get money for living as soon as their savings will be depleted. And no one plans to fix it. There is no hope.
That explains why you don't mind keeping illegal immigrants, you refuse to know what they do, therefore they do nothing bad in your personal world.To be fair, I must say that this is not only because of the illegal immigrants. In the last 3 years the government legally brought ~1.5 million people because without them economy recession would be way worse. With them there is a bit of GDP and other money things growing. But liberals don't think in long term, unfortunately. Nobody created 1.5 million jobs for them, or built the same amount of housing. They become a burden that needs jobs and housing, which Australia desperately needed even without them. And what do the government (both parties) want to do? Keep bringing more. Slight reduction keeps overall numbers above pre-covid time. So, unemployed people, having no jobs, having no money for rent because Centrelink does not cover price growth, or even no Centrelink because they are immigrants, they will commit crimes just to get money for living as soon as their savings will be depleted. And no one plans to fix it. There is no hope.
Crime stats - https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/pe...latest-release
A more unbiased source perhaps.




