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caliburn May 3rd 2009 1:10 am

List of Sydney's unsafe suburbs
 
Based on people's feedback on several threads, I have compiled a list of Sydney's not-so-safe suburbs:

Granville, Bankstown, Lakemba, Liverpool, Cabramatta, Fairfield, Mount Druitt, Blacktown, Auburn, Redfern, Campbelltown, Kings Cross, Wooloomooloo, Penrith, Macquarie Fields, Glenfield, Maroubra, Blackett, Whalan, Emerson, Plumpton, Coogee, Bronte, Bondi, Tamarama, Campsie, Wentworthville, Rooty Hill, St Marys, Parramatta, Greenacre, Punchbowl, Matraville, Lewisham, Glebe, Eastlakes.

Anyone wants to add/remove?

tartankoala May 3rd 2009 1:55 am

Re: List of Sydney's unsafe suburbs
 

Originally Posted by caliburn (Post 7537488)
Based on people's feedback on several threads, I have compiled a list of Sydney's not-so-safe suburbs:

Granville, Bankstown, Lakemba, Liverpool, Cabramatta, Fairfield, Mount Druitt, Blacktown, Auburn, Redfern, Campbelltown, Kings Cross, Wooloomooloo, Penrith, Macquarie Fields, Glenfield, Maroubra, Blackett, Whalan, Emerson, Plumpton, Coogee, Bronte, Bondi, Tamarama, Campsie, Wentworthville, Rooty Hill, St Marys, Parramatta, Greenacre, Punchbowl, Matraville, Lewisham, Glebe, Eastlakes.

Anyone wants to add/remove?

Nope that's them all, all the suburbs in Sydney I mean!

What does 'unsafe' actually mean anyway? I lived in Coogee for a few months and thought it was a terrific place.

tony_russell May 3rd 2009 2:32 am

Re: List of Sydney's unsafe suburbs
 

Originally Posted by caliburn (Post 7537488)
Based on people's feedback on several threads, I have compiled a list of Sydney's not-so-safe suburbs:

Granville, Bankstown, Lakemba, Liverpool, Cabramatta, Fairfield, Mount Druitt, Blacktown, Auburn, Redfern, Campbelltown, Kings Cross, Wooloomooloo, Penrith, Macquarie Fields, Glenfield, Maroubra, Blackett, Whalan, Emerson, Plumpton, Coogee, Bronte, Bondi, Tamarama, Campsie, Wentworthville, Rooty Hill, St Marys, Parramatta, Greenacre, Punchbowl, Matraville, Lewisham, Glebe, Eastlakes.

Anyone wants to add/remove?

ha ha thats pretty much every suburb, you sure you wanna move here? lol

memewest May 3rd 2009 8:06 am

Re: List of Sydney's unsafe suburbs
 
what are the 'safe' suburbs then?? :D

mohogony May 3rd 2009 8:08 am

Re: List of Sydney's unsafe suburbs
 

Originally Posted by caliburn (Post 7537488)
Based on people's feedback on several threads, I have compiled a list of Sydney's not-so-safe suburbs:

Granville, Bankstown, Lakemba, Liverpool, Cabramatta, Fairfield, Mount Druitt, Blacktown, Auburn, Redfern, Campbelltown, Kings Cross, Wooloomooloo, Penrith, Macquarie Fields, Glenfield, Maroubra, Blackett, Whalan, Emerson, Plumpton, Coogee, Bronte, Bondi, Tamarama, Campsie, Wentworthville, Rooty Hill, St Marys, Parramatta, Greenacre, Punchbowl, Matraville, Lewisham, Glebe, Eastlakes.

Anyone wants to add/remove?

Those of us that have never been to Sydney have heard of Redfern, Cabramata and Lakemba as being the unsafe suburbs.

iamthecreaturefromuranus May 3rd 2009 8:47 am

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Originally Posted by memewest (Post 7538100)
what are the 'safe' suburbs then?? :D

All the ones where you can't afford the house prices. :)

memewest May 3rd 2009 8:50 am

Re: List of Sydney's unsafe suburbs
 

Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus (Post 7538204)
All the ones where you can't afford the house prices. :)

That sounds about right!! ;)

plantpot May 3rd 2009 9:06 am

Re: List of Sydney's unsafe suburbs
 
Coogee, Bronte, Bondi, Tamarama?????????

Have you SEEN the price tags there???? Someone is having you on...seriously....

Kooky. May 3rd 2009 9:16 am

Re: List of Sydney's unsafe suburbs
 
Everywhere is unsafe to some degree. I live in one of the more expensive areas and in the last few months we have had the SWAT team raiding a sleepy little cafe via the windows (to arrest a couple of rather nasty men), an ATM blown up, and drunk kids fighting and puking just up the hill almost every weekend.

Successful crims don't live in rough areas, so you can move to Kirribilli and have a gang leader for a neighbour (and I don't mean Kev).

Of course some areas are more safe than others, and you have them included in your list but as PPot says, some of those you included are des res areas. They also get rough because they are at the beach and people go, have a good time, drink too much, get leery. If that's why you've included them, put Manly on there too :lol:

Red_V_Roger May 3rd 2009 9:18 am

Re: List of Sydney's unsafe suburbs
 

Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus (Post 7538204)
All the ones where you can't afford the house prices. :)

ROFL That's the dividing line for sure :D

plantpot May 3rd 2009 9:31 am

Re: List of Sydney's unsafe suburbs
 

Originally Posted by Seasider (Post 7538244)
Everywhere is unsafe to some degree. I live in one of the more expensive areas and in the last few months we have had the SWAT team raiding a sleepy little cafe via the windows (to arrest a couple of rather nasty men), an ATM blown up, and drunk kids fighting and puking just up the hill almost every weekend.

Successful crims don't live in rough areas, so you can move to Kirribilli and have a gang leader for a neighbour (and I don't mean Kev).

Of course some areas are more safe than others, and you have them included in your list but as PPot says, some of those you included are des res areas. They also get rough because they are at the beach and people go, have a good time, drink too much, get leery. If that's why you've included them, put Manly on there too :lol:

Yea she put it better than me ;)

IvanM May 3rd 2009 10:21 am

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Originally Posted by plantpot (Post 7538229)
Coogee, Bronte, Bondi, Tamarama?????????

Have you SEEN the price tags there???? Someone is having you on...seriously....

SSSSShhhhhh. I don't want more people coming here. I seriously need to put on body armour everytime I go to the beach.

Red_V_Roger May 3rd 2009 10:29 am

Re: List of Sydney's unsafe suburbs
 

Originally Posted by IvanM (Post 7538339)
SSSSShhhhhh. I don't want more people coming here. I seriously need to put on body armour everytime I go to the beach.

Yeh, they are a rough lot in our local pub. They even queue up one behind the other waiting to get served.

harrip May 3rd 2009 11:16 am

Re: List of Sydney's unsafe suburbs
 

Originally Posted by caliburn (Post 7537488)
Based on people's feedback on several threads, I have compiled a list of Sydney's not-so-safe suburbs:

Granville, Bankstown, Lakemba, Liverpool, Cabramatta, Fairfield, Mount Druitt, Blacktown, Auburn, Redfern, Campbelltown, Kings Cross, Wooloomooloo, Penrith, Macquarie Fields, Glenfield, Maroubra, Blackett, Whalan, Emerson, Plumpton, Coogee, Bronte, Bondi, Tamarama, Campsie, Wentworthville, Rooty Hill, St Marys, Parramatta, Greenacre, Punchbowl, Matraville, Lewisham, Glebe, Eastlakes.

Anyone wants to add/remove?

Looking at actual crime statistics by suburb rather than the hear-say of Expats members could be a better way of getting something of use. There is a link on here to the ABS 2005 statistics in xls format - http://www.abs.gov.au/ausstats/subsc...11.2006&Latest

IvanM May 3rd 2009 12:18 pm

Re: List of Sydney's unsafe suburbs
 

Originally Posted by Red_V_Roger (Post 7538350)
Yeh, they are a rough lot in our local pub. They even queue up one behind the other waiting to get served.

Disgraceful. OK the Bondi hotel and Coogee Bay Hotel have a lot of assaults but you have to be hanging around there in the early morning to have an issue.

caliburn May 3rd 2009 6:57 pm

Re: List of Sydney's unsafe suburbs
 

Originally Posted by Seasider (Post 7538244)
Everywhere is unsafe to some degree. I live in one of the more expensive areas and in the last few months we have had the SWAT team raiding a sleepy little cafe via the windows (to arrest a couple of rather nasty men), an ATM blown up, and drunk kids fighting and puking just up the hill almost every weekend.

Successful crims don't live in rough areas, so you can move to Kirribilli and have a gang leader for a neighbour (and I don't mean Kev).

Of course some areas are more safe than others, and you have them included in your list but as PPot says, some of those you included are des res areas. They also get rough because they are at the beach and people go, have a good time, drink too much, get leery. If that's why you've included them, put Manly on there too :lol:

Areas near beaches are considered unsafe by some, especially during weekends, due to the reasons you have mentioned. This list is not a reflection of my personal opinion as I have not been to all these suburbs, its merely a compilation of people's views from several previous threads on the topic.

Vash the Stampede May 3rd 2009 7:21 pm

Re: List of Sydney's unsafe suburbs
 
I've heard the local mothers' meeting at Darling Point can get quite nasty if there's not enough cooking sherry to go around. Might want to stay clear of that place.

caliburn May 3rd 2009 7:33 pm

Re: List of Sydney's unsafe suburbs
 

Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede (Post 7539108)
I've heard the local mothers' meeting at Darling Point can get quite nasty if there's not enough cooking sherry to go around. Might want to stay clear of that place.

Good find mate!!!

IvanM May 3rd 2009 10:15 pm

Re: List of Sydney's unsafe suburbs
 

Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede (Post 7539108)
I've heard the local mothers' meeting at Darling Point can get quite nasty if there's not enough cooking sherry to go around. Might want to stay clear of that place.

I'll send the Mrs round to sort em out. Its those armed with rackets down at the Tennis club that scare me.

seayork2002 May 4th 2009 7:41 am

Re: List of Sydney's unsafe suburbs
 
Some of them I never experienced problems in and there are lots more I could list. It is a big city so you will have problems in all areas (or not as the case may be)




Originally Posted by caliburn (Post 7537488)
Based on people's feedback on several threads, I have compiled a list of Sydney's not-so-safe suburbs:

Granville, Bankstown, Lakemba, Liverpool, Cabramatta, Fairfield, Mount Druitt, Blacktown, Auburn, Redfern, Campbelltown, Kings Cross, Wooloomooloo, Penrith, Macquarie Fields, Glenfield, Maroubra, Blackett, Whalan, Emerson, Plumpton, Coogee, Bronte, Bondi, Tamarama, Campsie, Wentworthville, Rooty Hill, St Marys, Parramatta, Greenacre, Punchbowl, Matraville, Lewisham, Glebe, Eastlakes.

Anyone wants to add/remove?


Conrad242 May 4th 2009 8:47 pm

Re: List of Sydney's unsafe suburbs
 
in Sydney there are also very famous suburbs called Guildford and Hurstville.. famous for being gang and drug ridden places, also Rockdale has high number of robberies

mjj May 5th 2009 11:12 pm

Re: List of Sydney's unsafe suburbs
 

Originally Posted by IvanM (Post 7538504)
Disgraceful. OK the Bondi hotel and Coogee Bay Hotel have a lot of assaults but you have to be hanging around there in the early morning to have an issue.

And you could always have a chocolate ice cream at the Coogee Bay Hotel whilst you are waiting!! ;)

caliburn May 5th 2009 11:15 pm

Re: List of Sydney's unsafe suburbs
 

Originally Posted by mjj (Post 7545577)
And you could always have a chocolate ice cream at the Coogee Bay Hotel whilst you are waiting!! ;)

This could also possibly be the easiest way to be a millionnaire!!! Yep, thats how much Coogee Bay Hotel paid someone for trying their gourmet ice cream.

mjj May 5th 2009 11:27 pm

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Originally Posted by caliburn (Post 7545587)
This could also possibly be the easiest way to be a millionnaire!!! Yep, thats how much Coogee Bay Hotel paid someone for trying their gourmet ice cream.

Sounds like a load of crap to me!!

caliburn May 5th 2009 11:35 pm

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Originally Posted by mjj (Post 7545619)
Sounds like a load of crap to me!!

I thought we both were talking about the same story..

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574...7-1242,00.html

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegrap...001021,00.html

I heard this was settled out of court for $million+.

mjj May 6th 2009 12:27 am

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[QUOTE=caliburn;7545638]I thought we both were talking about the same story..


We were. My statement was just a very poor excuse for a pun!

ally7 Dec 5th 2009 12:55 am

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"in Sydney there are also very famous suburbs called Guildford and Hurstville.. famous for being gang and drug ridden places, also Rockdale has high number of robberies"


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hahahahaha this made me laugh.....famous? LOL famous for what? these suburbs are in NO way famous, i have lived in Sydney for 17 years and nothing bad has ever happened to me, Sydney is one of the worlds safest cities it is also one of the top 10 most livable cities in the world and it is probably the safest larger city in the world. Of course like in any city you should be more careful if you're out at night but there are no suburbs in Sydney apart from Kings Cross and Redfern which are particularly unsafe. Hurstville? What a joke i have been to Hurstville numerous times and live close to Hurstville, it's an extremely safe suburb "famous for being gang and drug ridden places" hahaha thats just ridiculous, there are really no major gangs in Sydney this is not America or the UK, and i have never seen any gang violence or drug dealing in Hurstville. Australia is an extremely safe country, i would feel safe walking outside at any time of day or night in most if not all Sydney suburbs with the exception of Kings Cross and Redfern. Having said this Sydney is an extremely safe city compared to it's size, remember that Sydney is a large city so of course there will be some crime, i would feel much safer in the Northern suburbs then the Western suburbs, but i wouldn't feel extremely unsafe anywhere in Sydney. Most of the violence that happens on the streets of Sydney is on the weekends when people have had a bit too much to drink and get violent.

ShawnMcCrea Dec 7th 2009 6:18 am

Re: List of Sydney's unsafe suburbs
 
I would take Kings Cross off of the list personally. The 2 weeks I stayed there I walked around at all hours of the night by myself without a problem.

As for a desireable place to live I would say no, its kind of dirty, lots of sex shops, street workers, drugies, etc. It definately does have its problems and maybe more so than other areas of Sydney. But depending on what your used to back home I wouldnt consider this a no go zone.

IvanM Dec 7th 2009 9:26 am

Re: List of Sydney's unsafe suburbs
 
Hurstville is famous for nothing. Rockdale is infamous for the council being convicted of corruption.

Originally Posted by Conrad242 (Post 7542148)
in Sydney there are also very famous suburbs called Guildford and Hurstville.. famous for being gang and drug ridden places, also Rockdale has high number of robberies


IvanM Dec 7th 2009 9:27 am

Re: List of Sydney's unsafe suburbs
 
You do have to watch your back there but it is always busy 24/7 and you just need to be streetwise. The X also has the shooting gallery which is a place where addicts can shoot up. If they overdose medical help is at hand. Keeps them off the street.

Originally Posted by ShawnMcCrea (Post 8153693)
I would take Kings Cross off of the list personally. The 2 weeks I stayed there I walked around at all hours of the night by myself without a problem.

As for a desireable place to live I would say no, its kind of dirty, lots of sex shops, street workers, drugies, etc. It definately does have its problems and maybe more so than other areas of Sydney. But depending on what your used to back home I wouldnt consider this a no go zone.


IndieG Dec 7th 2009 9:42 am

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I am not very familiar with Sydney, my sis-in-law lives in a suburb (since the past 15 years) called Lindfield (closer to Roseville station though) and it looked pretty safe to me. And I think she mentioned most suburbs close to this one are nice as well.

IndieG Dec 7th 2009 9:46 am

Re: List of Sydney's unsafe suburbs
 

Originally Posted by plantpot (Post 7538229)
Coogee, Bronte, Bondi, Tamarama?????????

Have you SEEN the price tags there????

It's unsafe for your bank balance...... so still true in that respect;)

swigski Dec 7th 2009 10:30 am

Re: List of Sydney's unsafe suburbs
 
King's Cross is like going for a walk in Paradise Park compared to some areas of the UK. The only areas I would deem a bit dodgy are some SW suburbs if you are in the wrong place at the wrong time

ABCDiamond Dec 7th 2009 11:09 am

Re: List of Sydney's unsafe suburbs
 

Originally Posted by caliburn (Post 7537488)
Based on people's feedback on several threads, I have compiled a list of Sydney's not-so-safe suburbs:

Granville, Bankstown, Lakemba, Liverpool, Cabramatta, Fairfield, Mount Druitt, Blacktown, Auburn, Redfern, Campbelltown, Kings Cross, Wooloomooloo, Penrith, Macquarie Fields, Glenfield, Maroubra, Blackett, Whalan, Emerson, Plumpton, Coogee, Bronte, Bondi, Tamarama, Campsie, Wentworthville, Rooty Hill, St Marys, Parramatta, Greenacre, Punchbowl, Matraville, Lewisham, Glebe, Eastlakes.

Anyone wants to add/remove?

I have personal knowledge of: Mount Druitt, Plumpton, Rooty Hill, St Marys, Parramatta and Glebe, I have either lived there or worked there, or very close.

Certain parts of those areas are definitely not desirable, but I would also say they are pretty safe from an average point of view. Although, I do know some sections of Mount Druitt, Parramatta and St Mary's that I would choose to avoid at night time.


Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus (Post 7538204)

Originally Posted by memewest (Post 7538100)
what are the 'safe' suburbs then?? :D

All the ones where you can't afford the house prices. :)

Sounds about right :thumbup:


Originally Posted by ShawnMcCrea (Post 8153693)
I would take Kings Cross off of the list personally. ... As for a desireable place to live I would say no

I've spent an hour in that area (I used to work near it - in my accounting profession :lol: )

Safe or Non-Desirable ? A much bigger question.

Petals Dec 7th 2009 11:45 am

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Everywhere can have problems just depends who lives there at the present time. If we are having a few problems in the street we live or lived in we cannot say that the whole suburb is a problem. Just because the area may have a lower socioeconomic demographic will not make it a bad place to live in my view. Personally I hate plastic suburbs with plastic people, like ordinary with ordinary people.

Gazzap Dec 10th 2009 4:49 am

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Bondi used to be bad then it was Coogee, then Clovelly got bad....then I moved again, this time to Perth! :rofl:


Daft question; any suburb of a big city has the potential to be unsafe at certain times. Try walking around Chelsea or even Mayfair in London late on a Friday night!

copa Dec 10th 2009 4:53 pm

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Originally Posted by swigski (Post 8154338)
King's Cross is like going for a walk in Paradise Park compared to some areas of the UK. The only areas I would deem a bit dodgy are some SW suburbs if you are in the wrong place at the wrong time

i lived in kings cross a few decades ago ...

it has changed a lot since then ... yuppies and money have moved in .. i rememebr back in the day we'd wish each other goodluck if we went out late at night to buy milk or bread..

ABCDiamond Dec 10th 2009 5:45 pm

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Originally Posted by copa (Post 8164143)
i lived in kings cross a few decades ago ...

it has changed a lot since then ... yuppies and money have moved in .. i rememebr back in the day we'd wish each other goodluck if we went out late at night to buy milk or bread..

:rofl: Good luck for what though.... :lol:

Londonuck Dec 10th 2009 6:56 pm

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Originally Posted by IvanM (Post 7538504)
Disgraceful. OK the Bondi hotel and Coogee Bay Hotel have a lot of assaults but you have to be hanging around there in the early morning to have an issue.

I once went passed the Bondi Hotel about 3 in the morning back in '92. The doors opened and a huge crowd fell out the doors fighting. It was Celtic Vs Rangers night apparently. It was just like those huge punch ups they had in the westerns.

michael_w Dec 10th 2009 10:22 pm

Re: List of Sydney's unsafe suburbs
 
If you believe what you read in the tabloids, western Sydney suburbs such as Fairfield and Auburn are 'unsafe'. I've been out there a lot and never felt threatened. The reality is that there is nowhere in Sydney that is 'safe', especially when there are people on the streets who are under the influence of alcohol and/or drugs. Look at the innocent tourists who have been beaten senseless in Coogee and Bondi. I have workmates whose kids have been mugged in relatively affluent north shore suburbs like Lindfield and Killara. Manly is nice during the daytime, but with the pubs at the weekend ... a list of unsafe suburbs is meaningless.


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