fishyben

List of current wages in aus.. From this months "Australian Outlook" ( I expect you all get it delivered)



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pommie bastard

We where stupid enough to read this bollocks too it prays on the dreamers trade try this site and look at award wages this site covers all jobs in australia.

http://www.jobsearch.gov.au/


Just a couple of jobs in Manufacturing here -


Details of Job Selected
Location Western Australia - Perth - Multiple Locations
Occupation Metal and Engineering Trades - Boilermakers and Welders

Job Number 53331096 Modified 04/02/2003
Job Name 2nd Class Welder/Fabricator ( 3 positions)
Job Location BAYSWATER
Job Description Basic fabrication in furniture factory using MIG weldingmachines & handtools, grinding & cutting. MIG WELDING skillsessential. Day Shift: 6.30am start. To apply phone Neil on9355 0995

Requirements MUST HAVE MIG WELDING EXP. Reliable hard worker, fit &healthy, looking for long term pos.
Hours 40hrs/wk
Transport Own Transport Required
Pay $471p/w


Details of Job Selected
Location Western Australia - Perth - Multiple Locations
Occupation Metal and Engineering Trades - Boilermakers and Welders

Job Number 52424561 Modified 21/01/2003
Job Name Boilermaker/WelderQualified (C5750))
Job Location WELSHPOOL
Job Description Based in Goldfields Working on heavy earthmoving equipment. Repairs and maintenance on a variety of equipment. Mustbe willing to undergo compensation and reference checks.

Requirements Trade papers, pre emp med, own tools, fluxcore, exp with earthmoving/mining equip and versatile/flexible.
Hours Min 58.5 hrs pe
Transport Own Transport Required
Pay Min $16.00 per hour
Start ASAP

Start ASAP

pommiesheila

Unfortunately, although the Government sets wage levels for jobs here, (it can all be found on "wageline" site) - most employers here want to pay as little as possible for as much as possible.

When I worked in Eastleigh I was paid around £15 an hour (1997) - the same jobs here in Queensland are paying around $11 an hour!!!

Yes, houses are cheaper - a three bed victorian terrace in Market Street probably costs nearly as much as our 4 bed detached with pool on acreage here - but once you`ve got your house, got your low paid job, the rest is the same - the only other thing cheaper is petrol - but you have to cover so many 000kms a year, even that isn't a big bonus!

Mind you, the weather's a damn sight better!

Herman

My job is a prime example of the kind differentials that exist for professionals (accountant). Below are salaries, hours worked and house prices for a 4 bed in each location for my job (I've worked in each location except Melbourne but have a reliable source):

London - salary : £88,500 not overtime but time off in lieu, average hours: 55 pw, house price: £500,000 (5.6 times salary)

South west of england - salary: £60,000 no overtime but time off in lieu, average hours: 48 pw, house price: £230,000 (3.8 times salary)

Sydney - salary: $93,000 no overtime or time off in lieu, average hours: 60pw (currently I'm doing 70), house price $700,000 (7.5 times salary)

Melbourne - salary: $84,000 no overtime or time off in lieu, average hours: 55pw, house price $500,000 (6.0 times salary)

I dont know about any other locations but this is very reliable information for these locations. I'm sure its different for other jobs, but this is illustrative of why there are 1 million professional Australians working in Europe, mainly in the UK.
I'm not "whinging" about this, since I dont actually get local salary, its just the cold hard facts for my job and explains why so many of my Australian peers here are plotting their escape to the UK.
I'd love to see examples from other professions, anyone got any?

pommiesheila

Herman, you made the point far better than I did, but unfortunately the Aussie Bullshit Machine cons everyone into thinking we`re wrong....

Herman

I'm not sure why the British have a tendency to think its a bed of roses over here. Partly media fuelled I guess and partly because maybe in the 60's when the previous generation came over houses and land were almost free. One of my mates is over from London this week for job interviews here and he was telling me over lunch that he got the shock of his life when salaries were talked about, especially as he has been looking in the local papers at house prices. He told me his view has quicky changed from wanting to come and live here to wanting to come here for a couple of years of sunshine. He has completely changed his mind about selling his house in London. Dont blame him either!

fishyben

Hey, to be honest i dont give a s**t what i do when i get there, im a plumber/gas fitter in the uk but once im in aus i dont care if i sweep the streets with a tooth brush, i got enough dosh in the bank for a nice sized house to be built, a couple of cars, the kids education and some left over for saving.
One thing iv noticed is people are always comparing prices and quality of life thinking "Money = quality of life = Happy".

As long as i got my health my wife and my son with me i'm happy with life . lifes to short to keep whinging about how much you Could be erning in the uk PB why dont you hurry up and get back here and make room for us dreamers

pommie bastard

Quaility of life has more to do with the people around you but money can help , better to be over paid than under paid.
You sound like you want quite a lot to me , you will care what you do as a tradesman you must have some pride .
Most Plumbers I know in the UK charge like a wounded bull , never do anything on the cheap its a good paying game.
Will be back soon it will be great to get away from good people like yourself , still got my PR Visa going cheap you seem rich put a bid in.

pommiesheila

Yes, you are dreaming, but I can`t blame you - it`s the best state to be in if you live in Eastleigh....

Grub

I'm with you- my husband, my son (and little one under manufacture!), my family, my friends (many who I have met through this site), a home I can buy outright, cars and a half decent wage, and of course lets not forget the beach and the sun- it's sooooooo cold here, snow and sleet (with no end in sight!), papers full of war (we I believe are the number one target) and Operation Ore. I cant wait. Money doesnt make me happy (though it will be nice to have a bit!)

Cheers Fishyben!

terryg

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Herman

Hi Herman

I would like to speak to you about recognition of the ACCA qualification in OZ (in a NON practice capacity)

Many thanks

Terry

Herman

[QUOTE]Originally posted by terryg
Terry
I really dont know the answer to this one as I'm an ACA.
If I want to practice here as a self employed accountant or sign companies annual reports, I believe I would be required to sit a local tax and law exam. In essence there is a reciprocol arrangement between the two chartered institutes, i.e. they do recognise each others qualification, but subject to this local exam condition. I would guess the ACCA has a similar arrangement - why not have a look on their website? I suspect another poster on here, Alan Collett, knows the answer to this question as he's an ACA with an Australian migration business. Alan?

Herman

You seem to suggest that you dont give a s**t because you have plenty of money in the bank, which completely contradicts what you say after. Not everyone is lucky enough to have the cash for a house and cars in the bank, so earning a decent wage to be able to really live is a real concern for many. I dont completely disagree with you about money equating to quality of life and happiness, but having said that the things that give my wife and I a great deal of extra happiness in life include overseas adventures, good skiing, good food and fine wine and these are not cheap - over here we these avenues are pleasure would be almost inaccessable to us.

fishyben

Ok Fair comment, I suppose being in a position to buy a house/cars is a very good starting block , and when i say i dont give a s**t what i do when i get there i mean as long as i can put food on the table and cloths on our back I'll be happy...
That said, when we get there it might all change, As for low income, the Job below from www.jobsearch.gov.au
i could live on $798 PW.


Employer Reference PLUMBER
Job Number 52367239 Modified 20/01/2003
Job Name Plumber
Job Location BURTON
Job Description We are seeking a registered plumber to do maintenace work on residential properties

Requirements Registered Plumber, must have own transport & tools. Previous experience essential
Hours 38hpw
Transport Own Transport Required
Pay $21.00p/hr + $10.70travel
Start ASAP

Contact Organisation Head Hunters International
Apply Lara Smyk
Phone 0882322701

denhim

couldn`t find those jobs that you posted pb..did you edit them by any chance???
pulled this one out of the bag tho, see there not all that badly paid.

Job Name Boilermaker/Welder
Job Location KWINANA
Job Description Metal Fabrication on structural and plate work, workshop work only able to read drawing,high trade skills required.

Requirements Trade Quail -Extensive workshop exp on plate & structural.
Hours 50+
Transport Own Transport Required
Pay $23.00 / Hr