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AlliF Mar 15th 2010 3:00 pm

Re: LCD Vs Plasma
 

Originally Posted by DeadVim (Post 8422785)
Bert Newton in 3D?

Now that is a scary scary thought... imagine old moonface looming out at you in the dark.:eek::eek:

Thanks for all the input folks - we hadn't even thought about the 3-d technology aspect. Not in a super hurry -have to wait til tax refund time anyway at least - so may just hold on and see what happens. :thumbup:

Deancm Mar 15th 2010 3:13 pm

Re: LCD Vs Plasma
 

Originally Posted by GarryP (Post 8422778)
Well:
  • There's 3D movies, 3D games, and probably eventually 3D broadcast TV.

Apparently the free to air TV studios in Australia are not planning on supporting it.

  • As anyone who's been to a 3D movie will attest, its much more involving.

Not that much more involving to warrant the cost. My personal opinion is that it is highly overrated.

The price point for the active shutter lens glasses from Sony and Samsung is c$160 -$200 each. Although this will come down over time especially as no one will be buying the tellys.

stuckinblighty Mar 15th 2010 4:17 pm

Re: LCD Vs Plasma
 
My old man had an LCD and it was a right load of old crap.We've got a Panasonic Veira Plasma and excellent it is to :thumbup:

IMHO 3D is a gimmick.Its nothing new and after a while the novelty of the 3D dissapears just like it does when you watch a 3D movie at the cinema.Plus wearing those glasses would get right on my tits after a while.

Amazulu Mar 15th 2010 5:31 pm

Re: LCD Vs Plasma
 
I have a 2 year old 46" Samsung LCD and it's superb.

asprilla Mar 15th 2010 5:41 pm

Re: LCD Vs Plasma
 
Plasma used to be better than LCD by a long shot but now a good LCD beats a good plasma. (the very best plasmas still beat the very best LCD's - but the difference in picture quality isn't that huge).

LCDs also have several other advantages over Plasmas. They are generally much lighter, and the latest models are pretty thin. They consume far less power and the brightness can be adjusted so that viewing in a fairly well lit room is still enjoyable (plasma's big disadvantage is the drop in viewing quality during the day if you have natural light coming into the room). They are far better than plasmas if you play any computer games.

Easy choice I reckon. :thumbup:

Wol Mar 15th 2010 6:10 pm

Re: LCD Vs Plasma
 
It's obviously personal preference, but it's LCD for me every time. But do get a LED backlit one - the "punch" is very much better and the backlighting will probably last far longer, as well as using less power.

Deancm Mar 15th 2010 6:23 pm

Re: LCD Vs Plasma
 

Originally Posted by stuckinblighty (Post 8422869)
IMHO 3D is a gimmick.Its nothing new and after a while the novelty of the 3D dissapears just like it does when you watch a 3D movie at the cinema.Plus wearing those glasses would get right on my tits after a while.

My sentiments exactly. Those born post 70's and so on don't seem to realise that 3D was done to death in the 60's. It didn't take off then and it won't now. Think it has something to do with the glasses.

Now if they could get rid of the specs then they'd be on to something.

Deancm Mar 15th 2010 6:28 pm

Re: LCD Vs Plasma
 

Originally Posted by Wol (Post 8423004)
It's obviously personal preference, but it's LCD for me every time. But do get a LED backlit one - the "punch" is very much better and the backlighting will probably last far longer, as well as using less power.

Still doesn't eliminate the ghosting problems inherent in LCD TV's although the LED backlit does give them a more natural image rather than a stark flourescent one.

Wol Mar 15th 2010 6:41 pm

Re: LCD Vs Plasma
 

Originally Posted by Deancm (Post 8423036)
Still doesn't eliminate the ghosting problems inherent in LCD TV's although the LED backlit does give them a more natural image rather than a stark flourescent one.

"Ghosting" is something that really relates to analogue reception (signal reflections/delays). If you mean the effect of slow refresh rates, the latest LCDs are far better than those of only a couple of years ago. My main Sony is a year old and I don't see any "jumpiness" even in fast moving objects, nor do I on a Panasonic in the bedroom.

Alfresco Mar 15th 2010 6:47 pm

Re: LCD Vs Plasma
 

Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 8422745)
Get a Panasonic Viera (Plasma). Superb televisions.

I agree. HD (from a good source) is simply stunning on them. :thumbup:

They also playback HD video from panasonic cameras natively via the SD card slot, which I find very useful.

Deancm Mar 15th 2010 6:54 pm

Re: LCD Vs Plasma
 

Originally Posted by Wol (Post 8423048)
If you mean the effect of slow refresh rates, the latest LCDs are far better than those of only a couple of years ago. My main Sony is a year old and I don't see any "jumpiness" even in fast moving objects, nor do I on a Panasonic in the bedroom.

Yes, ghosting due to the refresh rate (the Superman blur!). LCDs are far better than what they were however the problem is still there. My LCD refreshes at 200Hz (Sony Bravia) and it still gets ghosting with dynamic/fast content. I've also notived a lot of blurring and pixelation with standard def content. (TV's 12 months old as well)

I wouldn't buy another LCD put it that way. Right now I am trying to see if I can find a Pioneer 9th Gen Kuro to replace.

LCD's are OK for the average person but I wouldn't recommend them for the videophiles out there.

GarryP Mar 15th 2010 7:48 pm

Re: LCD Vs Plasma
 

Originally Posted by Deancm (Post 8423027)
My sentiments exactly. Those born post 70's and so on don't seem to realise that 3D was done to death in the 60's. It didn't take off then and it won't now. Think it has something to do with the glasses.

Now if they could get rid of the specs then they'd be on to something.

As someone born pre 70s, I do remember the previous attempts at 3D. These had some big problems relative to a good shutter glasses versions - and where we will be with fullHD projectors.

We'll see where we are by next Christmas, but I'll bet that 3D becomes the norm for the big event viewing by the time of the Olympics in 2012. Would you prefer to watch the football in 2D, or on a big screen 3D?

And on the specs front, there is no good reason for $200 prices - they are two LCD shutters and an IR sync signal, maybe $10 of parts. We had them for Silicon Graphics workstations over a decade ago, at lower prices. I'm betting they become a fashion item, like sunglasses though.

As I said, I'd suggest a reasonably sized, cheap LCD screen for general viewing, and a 3D projector (once they are out there) for movies.

ozzieeagle Mar 15th 2010 7:58 pm

Re: LCD Vs Plasma
 
Hologram TV is on its way.

10 years now.

A decent LCD should last that long and Holograms will make 3D defunct quicker than the 2D version.

There should be people buying TV's today that will be replaced directly by Hologram TV.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/science...ion/index.html


Not everyone can see 3D TV either.

Re Plasma v LCD.... I used to be in favour of LCD's but screen size is everything to me, so Plasma for that reason.... cheaper for larger.

54 inch Panasonic Viera's are now sub 2,000 Aud.

GarryP Mar 15th 2010 8:15 pm

Re: LCD Vs Plasma
 

Originally Posted by ozzieeagle (Post 8423151)
Hologram TV is on its way.

The data content required for true holographic TV is frightening. Maybe by 2020 someone will have got to grips with the how-the-f*** aspects, but in the meantime transmitting stereo pair 3D is *much* easier (main picture+low rate difference channel). That's why I think it will take off, its well within the capabilities of blu-ray, HDMI, DVB-T2, etc.

Only problem is LCD isn't the best match technology-wise. However they aren't that far of delivering fast enough refresh rates cheaply, so maybe it will get there before 2012.

Main thing to remember, the sets are backwards compatible and the extra cost of adding it to existing designs is low if your technology is right.

Oh, and there as all that new 3D content from the cinemas, and they are adding 3D to old as we speak.

Rod-Helen-Poppy Mar 15th 2010 8:19 pm

Re: LCD Vs Plasma
 
have 46" samsung which im very happy with. i think its horses for courses regarding plasma over LCD and vice versa.

choose one you like. but remember when they set them up in shops or a dealer for say panasonic but stock other makes, they tend to adjust the settings on the pannies to make them look better; ditto with a sony/samsung dealer etc.

go to an independant or check out http://stuff.tv/ very good unbiased advice :thumbup:


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