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I agree too.
Get a 100 Hz telly until the Plasma and LCD have moved onto the next generation.
The only deciding factor should be space. If you don't have much space, but a lot of cash, get your LCD/Plasma.

Andrew

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This has got nothing to do with the subject being discussed, but Perthforme?

Does your wife post on here mostly?

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wait a year and get one of these:

http://www.canon.com/technology/display/

SED is the new way to go!

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I'll never win the lottery in a year! :D

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I bet you do.

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Big CRTs probably give the best overall picture, but they have a size limit and are b. heavy and gross back to front!

Plasma screens have a better contrast ratio than LCD but use bags of power - they are the equivalent of half a bar on an electric fire. They also suffer burnout and would cost a fortune to repair.

LCDs don't suffer burnout. It's a matter of conjecture whether you can replace the fluorescent tubes that provide the illumination - some say they can't be replaced. They use a fraction of plasma's electricity.

The organic light emitting screens which are coming along promise to be much cheaper, far higher resolution, use much less power and to top it all could be made flexible.

Re. the comment on the quality of LCDs up close - we bought a JVC 32" LCD on the basis of seeing one in Singapore Harvey Norman: with a high definition transmission it is just like a projected 35mm slide at a foot viewing distance: absolutely stunning!

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Hi,
Sony's Bravia series are pretty good -here are the specs for you :

klv-v40a10 - 40" - costs about A$ 4,400 (in Dubai)
Contrast : 1300:1 ; brightness - 500 cd; refresh rate is 8 ms (which is very good).

When you buy a TV, take your own DVDs and ask them to demonstrate using those - so you get a better idea.

My husband could get a Phd in this area - the amount of research he has done on LCD/Plasma TVs :rolleyes: . But the links are on his laptop - so will try and post them in the evening, if you are interested, that is.

Cheers
Anya

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LCD would beat Plasma for higher resolutions. Although the newer HD Plasmas do have similar resolutions to LCD, typically 1024 x 768 or similar. Many older Plasmas would only be 800 x 600 or even 600 x 480.

LCDs do not suffer from screen burn but plasmas do. If you have a plasma TV and leave it on a channel that has a logo in the corner (many satellite channels have this) it can suffer from screen burn after prolonged use.

I bought LCD for these 2 reasons.

Phil

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Apparently Plasma will be phased out in a few years, as they are too expensive to maufacture compared to the falling cost of making the other ones..remember reading bout it on the beeb website.

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Thanks for your thoughts and some useful information. Think I definitely agree that LCD is the better choice :)

Just wich they would make them bigger :(

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Yes I would like to look, because despite what some have said on here, I've done a fair bit of research, looking at dedicated forums to this kind of thing. I know at present that "DLP" rear projections according to the people in the know really leave the other technology for dead, especially when you factor in the price comparisons. SET is another story though, however there are not enough around at present to make a decent comparison Also DLP projectors are roaring up the league table in the comparison stakes at present.

If you factor in the SET technology on the horizon and the price comparisons of the current rear projections on the market, why spend double on Plasmas or LCD's

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Does anyone know if you get HD Ready CRT TVs in Australia? And how much they cost? Any links to some electrical shops, ie the Aussie equivalent of Currys or Comet would be very helpful to me. I've been googling for an hour now I don't seem to be having much luck.

BTW: I am waiting for the SED screens to come out as in the UK SDTV looks awful on LCD and Plasma. HDTV in Aus may look fantastic though on an LCD. Thats another pro for moving. HDTV is light years ahead of the UK in Aus.

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Yes you can get all the Loewe and Metz brands here, which are the same upmarket German 100 mhz brands as the top tv's you would buy in the UK, 80cm widescreens are down to 2,200 aud now. However you can only purchase these in specialist stores like, Tivoli hifi and Carlton audio visual in Melbourne, not to sure where you would get those in the rest of the country. I think the resolution on these is somewhere around 1368 x 720.

BTW I ended up buying at 52 inch LG Rear pro DLP from JB hifi as soon as the price dropped below 2,000 Aud.

Reason being, it has loads of different viewing settings, heaps of inputs including HDMI and DVI and can handle just about any resolution you throw at it. I beleive it can handle up to 1960 x 1268.

The reason these tv's are rapidly dropping in price, is the advent of the new SED technology.

Tivoli for Loewe...

http://www.tivolihifi.com.au/index.p...ndex&cPath=3_4

CAV for Metz

http://www.carltonaudiovisual.com.au/?q=node/view/38

When you see the price that CaV charge for the Metz, (although you would pick it up considerably cheaper) you will understand why I got the LG, The same size HIres plasma with all the features would have cost over 6,000 aud.

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hi

i agree with you buy the what plasma or lcd magazine-- its gives you expert opinion on (1) picture quality
(2) connections
(3) ease of use
(4) value for money
(5) overall rating
there is one currently on the market which has the 32 award winning lcd/plasma tv for 2006 and you will see that pioneer/panasonic & hitachi seem to feature quite prominantly in the awards. these guys also explain how they test the tvs.check it here http://www.homecinemachoice.com/whatplasma/ for their publications which are very handy.

des

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OMG. Why the hell would anyone want a decent tv in oz? with the crap they put on it, a portable tv would do me just fine! IMO, The thought of going all the way to aus, to sit there and watch tv on a big screen just seems crazy. Its such a beautifull country, with so much to see and do, you probably won't even have much time to sit and watch it anyway.

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This is so true. Have you noticed that in the showroom they always show movies like "Toy Story' or "Finding Nemo' as these look good on any TV & look great on big screens. I have a Toshiba 36" 100hz CRT & have yet to see a TV that has a better picture for under GBP7k. The picture quality on LCD & especially plasma is just not there yet. I think LCD (or an incarnation of it) will get there eventually....

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Yeah, I bought a 51cm portable for $109 from Dick Smiths (main TV still at sea) & hardly watch it. I will definitely not be getting Foxtel. A waste of money in my opinion. DVDs & bittorrent will do for me.

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Btw, seriously, what is the difference between Bittorrent and Limewire. I've yet to get a faster download on Bittorrent clients than limewire ?


As for TV, Loving football (errm real football) and enjoying the news when I want to watch it, especially as I'm a nghtshift worker, plus the fact that the kids are on Auto pilot, whilst the wife works days. Means for me Foxtel, is a must.


Got to admit, a hi fallouting TV is slightly wasted on foxtel though, For some reason the free to air Digi boxes, give a better picture the Foxtel one, although Foxtel managed to send me one without composite inputs, just RCA.

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Sorry, never heard of Limewire. Post some links & I'll have a look.

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Sounds like it's just a case of Limewire, being better known in Aussie/Asia and the US than the UK maybe ?

http://www.limewire.com/english/content/home.shtml

I've always been able to get any file I want on Limwire, and was dead curious about Bittorents, as I don't know anyone that uses the Torrents system here. In fact I learnt about Bittorrents of off British BBS sites.

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Jeez,e i bet they piss the poms off , when you click on EUROPE[ english] and a yankee flag pop,s up :D :D ...................... :beer: mm

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I have a 42" panasonic plasma and 17"/22"" panasonic LCD's as well. The Plasma wins hands down when watching DVD, The LCD's aren't bad either. What you must remember Shite in = Shite out, so if you have a crap single going in you will have a crap picture coming out. Leads can make a big difference too. Contrast ratio on plasma is 3000:1, not bad for a screen that is 5 years old!, most of the new ones still don't come close. Gas will last about 10yrs depending on usage. Burnout will happen on most screens including your computer screen if picture is left on there too long (weeks/months). True Plasmas will fade out but the new screens will take a good few years to come down to be 'affordable' to most people.
The above is IMO, so don't have a go if you don't agree. :D

Thanks
Suni

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Isn't it crap when you have to explain yourself like that :rolleyes:

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yeah :rolleyes:

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Wouldnt waste money on any fancy TV equipment, the programmes do not warrant such expense. The best TV is the cheapest one switched off.
Roger

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Those of you still in process of coming out, via Singapore, pop into Harvey Norman there in the Funan centre and see the High Definition TVs - it shows how stunning the picture can be.

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DVD's may be a reason to buy, if you like films etc? Possibly through HD DVD player? For when it's dark and there's nothing else more interesting to do? ;)

:D

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Got it today! :)

It's lurvely :cool:

LCD btw

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I agree completely, take yesterdays schedule for ABC & Ch 9, for example:

18:00 - 19:00 Dr Who (UK SciFi)
19:00 - 19:30 The News (Australian)
19:30 - 20:25 Cutting It (UK Drama)
20:00 - 20:30 Nigel's Place in France (UK)
20:30 - 22:40 Midsomer Murders (UK Murder Mystery)
22:40 - 23:10 Airline (UK)

;)

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Diddn't buy it to watch TV...will mostly be doing loads of other stuff with it

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Well I am going to ship all my gadgets from here for sure. You can get a Sony plasma HD for less than 5,000A$ here in bangkok. These guys must be keeping over 100% margins when sell in Australia!

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Is a Plasma that's classed as HDTV Ready, actually HDTV ?

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Well.. I am not sure. Actually i use it for cable tv + DVD + VCD only. Not tried to connect to the PC. BTW, do you know how to check whether it is really HDTV or not. I thought HDTV ready means HDTV. I have seen samsung, lg etc sometimes back with stickers saying HDTV ready. After you highlight this here..now I am also curious to know this :)

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I don't know much about these, but I ask as Sony have a 42" Plasma FWD42PV1BK, HDTV Ready for $3,995 RRP, or about $3,400 shop floor price.

Their $10,000 50" models are also marked as HDTV ready.

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Apparently some TV's claim to be HD ready because of the interface connector they have, but they can't display HD at full resolution.

Standard defintion TV has a resolution of 720 x 576 pixels in Australia. (vertical resolution is interlaced across two frames)

It seems there's two formats in use for HD in Australia, one with effectively twice the vertical resolution of standard definition (720x576 progressive or non interlaced) and one that has 1440 x 1080 interlaced pixels

So if your TV can do 1440 x 1080i or 720x576p then it ican display an HD content at full resolution.

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I'd just like to put in my tuppennyworth here (not aimed at anyone specifically). I believe I am correct in pointing out that Foxtel only broadcast in standard definition (SD) and not in high defintion (HD) as they dont have the technology to broadcast in HD, so unless you are gonna be watching a lot of HD standard DVD'S or whatever it doesnt matter what flash screen capabilities you have, you're still just gonna get a standard picture-ok it may be a bit bigger/brighter but not as good as the salesmen would have you believe! In simple terms, if you've got a flash HD telly and you put a black and white video on-you're still gonna have a crap black and white picture.....

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Try Celebrity Big Brother, Celebrity Big Brother Revisited, Celebrity Big Brother Revisited update; Celebrity Ballroom Dancing; Celebrity Ice Skating; Celebrity in the Aussie 'jungle'; Celebrity Mastermind; Celebrity Millionaire; Celebrity X Factor; Pop Idol; Corrie and East Enders and you'll know how I feel about UK programming. Mind you millions seem to enjoy watching B lists, weirdos etc being humiliated so I must come to the beat of a different drum. :D If it weren't for Satellite I wouldn't bother watching the neon god.

Isn't Microsoft XP Media Center (Centre) the way to go for your entertainment of the future? Linked to your lappie, CRT, Plasma or whatever?

OzTennis :)

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Like I said before, Shite in = Shite out

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You could be rght about foxtel. However:
576p (576 horizontal lines progressive)
- supported by ABC, SBS, Seven, Prime

1080i (1080 horizontal lines interlaced)
- supported by Nine, Ten, WIN, NBN & Southern Cross Ten, Tas Digital

They all have a mandate to broadcast 1040 hrs HD pa. Foxtel is not a free to air broadcaster, which is why they don't have to comply. Providing High definition TV gets the company absolutely no extra money, because the content is simulcast in Standard defintion (where all the viewers are), so commercial companies have no incentive yet. From what I can gather, half the free to air companies only went along with the mandate because they were given free spectrum to broadcast HD, which they hope to use for more SD programs later if HD dies a death (cos no-one is watching it).

I am not sure if things have changed yet but most HD content was simply SD transcoded up to HD, which is a bit stupid, but it did comply with the mandate. I think I read somewhere that the BBC will make all their programs in HD by 2010, which will probably bring the rest of the world with them. Anyone know how many HD programs Australia is making?

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I doubt if Foxtel/Austar could shove the data that HD requires down the satellite link with present equipment, even if they wanted to. Which is a pity, since a proper HD picture beats everything else hands down.

The Austar picture often shows quite noticeable pixellation and JPEG-type artifacts, indicating to me that it's on the edge bandwidth-wise.