Kids tax and premium bonds
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Kids tax and premium bonds
I know adults' wins are taxed when you move to Australia but what about the kids?
Does anyone know if they have any advantage as my kids have some put away but we'll invest elsewhere if they're going to lose out to tax.
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Carolyn
Does anyone know if they have any advantage as my kids have some put away but we'll invest elsewhere if they're going to lose out to tax.
Thanks
Carolyn
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Re: Kids tax and premium bonds
Originally Posted by flip
I know adults' wins are taxed when you move to Australia but what about the kids?
Does anyone know if they have any advantage as my kids have some put away but we'll invest elsewhere if they're going to lose out to tax.
Thanks
Carolyn
Does anyone know if they have any advantage as my kids have some put away but we'll invest elsewhere if they're going to lose out to tax.
Thanks
Carolyn
They will get taxed as Premium Bonds are treated as investments. I'm not 100% sure on this but I reckon they will also be liable for the 66% tax rates they use for kids to stop their parents using them as a tax dodge. From memory this rate applies to all earning not made by gainful employment after the tax free threshold for children of $772.
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Alistair
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Re: Kids tax and premium bonds
Originally Posted by kirsty&al
Hello,
They will get taxed as Premium Bonds are treated as investments. I'm not 100% sure on this but I reckon they will also be liable for the 66% tax rates they use for kids to stop their parents using them as a tax dodge. From memory this rate applies to all earning not made by gainful employment after the tax free threshold for children of $772.
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They will get taxed as Premium Bonds are treated as investments. I'm not 100% sure on this but I reckon they will also be liable for the 66% tax rates they use for kids to stop their parents using them as a tax dodge. From memory this rate applies to all earning not made by gainful employment after the tax free threshold for children of $772.
Regards
Alistair
Thanks Alistair.
Carolyn
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Originally Posted by flip
Knew I could rely on you.
Thanks Alistair.
Carolyn
Thanks Alistair.
Carolyn
Paul
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Originally Posted by gajjitt
What about the Child Trust Funds just introduced in the UK. What if you move to Australia, what about the tax on these?
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I was thinking of signing my lads over to my parents (if thats possible) but it will still be in his name, so possibly elligible for tax, not quite sure how it works.
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Re: Kids tax and premium bonds
Originally Posted by Anastasia Beaverhausen
Good question, anyone have an answer?
I was thinking of signing my lads over to my parents (if thats possible) but it will still be in his name, so possibly elligible for tax, not quite sure how it works.
I was thinking of signing my lads over to my parents (if thats possible) but it will still be in his name, so possibly elligible for tax, not quite sure how it works.
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Re: Kids tax and premium bonds
ANY Overseas Income that the Australian Tax Office deems to be taxable, will be taxed.
Premium Bonds placed in a UK residents name, AND at a UK address will not be "noticed" by the Australian Tax Office.
If the winner of a prize is displayed on the NSI website, as having an Australian address, it will no doubt be looked into by the ATO
Premium Bonds placed in a UK residents name, AND at a UK address will not be "noticed" by the Australian Tax Office.
If the winner of a prize is displayed on the NSI website, as having an Australian address, it will no doubt be looked into by the ATO
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Re: Kids tax and premium bonds
Originally Posted by ABCDiamond
ANY Overseas Income that the Australian Tax Office deems to be taxable, will be taxed.
Premium Bonds placed in a UK residents name, AND at a UK address will not be "noticed" by the Australian Tax Office.
If the winner of a prize is displayed on the NSI website, as having an Australian address, it will no doubt be looked into by the ATO
Premium Bonds placed in a UK residents name, AND at a UK address will not be "noticed" by the Australian Tax Office.
If the winner of a prize is displayed on the NSI website, as having an Australian address, it will no doubt be looked into by the ATO
I wasn't trying to defraud anyone. I just wondered whether kids were exempt from the tax laws in the same way they are over here.
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Re: Kids tax and premium bonds
Originally Posted by gajjitt
What about the Child Trust Funds just introduced in the UK. What if you move to Australia, what about the tax on these?
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I just had a quick look on the internet and I get the impression that these are a bit like ISAs for kids (but with a fixed end date). My guess (note guess) would be that these will be treated by the ATO in the same way as ISAs (for adults) and stakeholder pensions for kids. That is, they will come under the FIF regulations which means that if the total value of FIFs (Foreign Investment Funds and Foreign Life Policies) for the family is more than $50k then you can be taxed on the increase in the fund every year. If less then you get taxed when the fund pays out (regardless of them being tax free in the UK).
Sorry for the bad news - Oz has not cottoned onto the benefits of tax free savings yet, but hopefully they will one day.
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Alistair