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Re: Is it just me or is this the "norm"?
I'm always amazed by how many people on here live (or lived) in The Azores! :lol:
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Re: Is it just me or is this the "norm"?
Originally Posted by LouiseR
(Post 10157907)
As inefficient as we all know they are, they're often more unhelpful to someone with no visa who's 12,000 miles away.... Just sayin'.
I dont understand why a company would advertise an Australian job in the UK (which probably takes time and money) complete with visa etc and then be unhelpful/more unhelpful? Are you somehow suggesting this is my fault by applying for the job (which they've already stated I`m a good match for in all cases)?:confused: |
Re: Is it just me or is this the "norm"?
Originally Posted by moneypenny20
(Post 10157924)
You say that, but then you've said, and others have confirmed that:
I am at a loss as to why any company who rarely employ on a permanent basis - tradies of any description, would agree to sponsor an unlicenced unknown entity who's 12,000 miles away. I find it even harder to believe that were they to change the habits of a lifetime and agree to sponsor, they would then pay for relocation and licence fees. There are way too many unemployed electricians of all types on the ground here to choose from. Looking overseas at great expense makes no financial sense. Do you think I`m making this up? If looking overseas at great expense makes no financial sense why does the 457 visa exist? |
Re: Is it just me or is this the "norm"?
Originally Posted by energysolutions
(Post 10157980)
To clarify, the jobs are advertised in the UK and thats precisely what they (several companies) proposed to do - permanently employ an unlicensed, unknown entity who's 12,000 miles away
Do you think I`m making this up? If looking overseas at great expense makes no financial sense why does the 457 visa exist? |
Re: Is it just me or is this the "norm"?
Originally Posted by moneypenny20
(Post 10158179)
:confused: Why would I think that? I'm simply saying how it is and how tradies are employed. You were talking about recruitment firms as far as I could tell. It still makes no sense financially specifically in relation to electricians, not the 457 in general. I don't see how they can even offer sponsorship when they have to prove to DIAC that they can't find local workers.
Today I contacted the last company who are currently heavily recruiting electricians, going as far as putting adverts in major tabloids (not cheap - must be serious) and they are looking like a good bet I forgot to mention that the company most local to me have already sent out at least one squad of electricians earlier in the year (I didn't realise this was on offer then, was still mucking about with the PR visa process), those guys all went on 457s with relocation packages and got retrained at no expense once they were in Australia For me the pros very much outweigh the cons |
Re: Is it just me or is this the "norm"?
Hi,
Having done the hard yards I'll be interested to see if you have any success, I too read all the adverts about the job finders and relocation packages but got the impression they were snake oil salesmen in disguise. Good luck and please let us know how you get on. Migrating as an electrician and getting licenced is poxy to say the least so any new quick easy and lucrative options that come about will be great. I remain quietly sceptical though |
Re: Is it just me or is this the "norm"?
Originally Posted by rinkerdink
(Post 10158617)
Hi,
Having done the hard yards I'll be interested to see if you have any success, I too read all the adverts about the job finders and relocation packages but got the impression they were snake oil salesmen in disguise. Good luck and please let us know how you get on. Migrating as an electrician and getting licenced is poxy to say the least so any new quick easy and lucrative options that come about will be great. I remain quietly sceptical though You are right about the licensing, its far from straight forward or swift but provided it works out this is the best option for me Going back to one of my original points, moving from the UK to Australia to work as an Electrician (or indeed any licensed trade) is far from the easy process many imagine it to be |
Re: Is it just me or is this the "norm"?
Hi,
To be fair thats exactly why I am so sceptical of the sponsorship route, a company has a leap of faith taking somebody on from oversea's based on at best a reference and an interview. Then they are paying all the costs for training etc with no guarantee's that you will even pass and get a licence, meanwhile they are paying you while you can't work freely in the skill they need. It is very tough for licenced occupations to get sponsorship for these reasons, but good luck!!! It would be nice to hear of someone playing the system and short cutting a lot of the rigmarole without being out of pocket |
Re: Is it just me or is this the "norm"?
Originally Posted by rinkerdink
(Post 10158759)
Hi,
To be fair thats exactly why I am so sceptical of the sponsorship route, a company has a leap of faith taking somebody on from oversea's based on at best a reference and an interview. Then they are paying all the costs for training etc with no guarantee's that you will even pass and get a licence, meanwhile they are paying you while you can't work freely in the skill they need. It is very tough for licenced occupations to get sponsorship for these reasons, but good luck!!! It would be nice to hear of someone playing the system and short cutting a lot of the rigmarole without being out of pocket |
Re: Is it just me or is this the "norm"?
Originally Posted by energysolutions
(Post 10157899)
Yep, you are missing the point - I aint complaining about someone else "picking up the tab" - why would I?
My initial post was primarily to highlight how inefficient recruitment companies are/can be When I talk with people about my plans most people are under the impression (I probably was my self until recently) that its dead easy and Australia is crying out for good quality workers that tick all the boxes. The picture painted is that if you fit the criteria then you`ll be presented with a Visa and whisked off to your new life in the sun in your dream job with more money than you can spend The reality is VERY different and the patience of a saint is required - rant over |
Re: Is it just me or is this the "norm"?
Originally Posted by Bermudashorts
(Post 10158886)
I thought your first post was about your surprise that you haven't been snapped up and whisked away to a new life in the sun.
Originally Posted by Bermudashorts
(Post 10158886)
Yes you carry on kidding yourself that the reason this has not happened because of recruitment agents inefficiency. :nod:
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Re: Is it just me or is this the "norm"?
Originally Posted by energysolutions
(Post 10158914)
I`m still optimistic despite the hurdles and other peoples negativity......
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Re: Is it just me or is this the "norm"?
The pace of life is slower Down Under, takes a while to get used to it.
KD |
Re: Is it just me or is this the "norm"?
Originally Posted by energysolutions
(Post 10157899)
Yep, you are missing the point - I aint complaining about someone else "picking up the tab" - why would I?
My initial post was primarily to highlight how inefficient recruitment companies are/can be |
Re: Is it just me or is this the "norm"?
Having now moved to rural Herefordshire I find the whole 'slower pace of life Down Under' a bit exaggerated to be honest.
Originally Posted by KingsthorpeDavid
(Post 10159342)
The pace of life is slower Down Under, takes a while to get used to it.
KD |
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