Originally Posted by Bermudashorts (Post 10157121)

As you don't have a visa and I presume not a licence either, I am not in the least it surprised that you are not making progress. Skilled migration is the way to go for an electrician I think.

Originally Posted by jad n rich (Post 10157073)

The reality is very different as many in OZ are unemployed, far higher than the figures show. The unemployment rate is around 5% but to be counted as EMPLOYED you need to work 2 hours in a fortnight!!!

Many people will vouch for how hard it is to get work here.

Trade work in particular Electricians needs a lot of licences, insurances, converting to australian qualifications.... and usually australain experience. Look at the forum for electricians, should be much info there. Many many tradies on the ground competing for jobs is the reality.

Lashings of cash when you arrive should be taken with a pinch of salt. Very expensive:eek:, some of the worlds most expensive cities.

Start afresh with what aussied-up qualifications you will actually need to work in OZ.

Originally Posted by energysolutions (Post 10157175)

Or I could chuck away a fortune getting my own license via Vetassess and PR Visa, wait around 18 months for the privilege (last time I checked), pay all my own flights and associated relocation costs to arrive with a restricted license and no job (and probably little chance of getting one until I have some experience and an unrestricted license - potential catch 22)

I think I`ll take my chances with my current direction......

Originally Posted by verystormy (Post 10157200)

It is very very rare for sparkies and other trades to get sponsored. Not impossible, but fantastically difficult. Also, there is no guarantee you will be offered any relocation package. I know people that work in areas that get sponsorship easy and didn't get any relocation help

Originally Posted by LouiseR (Post 10157279)

And what happens if someone takes you on with a 457 visa and you make a life here. If they then decide they don't want you anymore. You've got 28 days to pack up and bugger off out of the country.

There's plenty of unemployed electricians in Australia who don't need 'retraining, flights and associated costs' paying for.

Sometimes the 'easy' way isn't so easy.

Originally Posted by energysolutions (Post 10157708)

Four of the five jobs that I mentioned include a relocation package and all include 457 sponsorship

I should also mention that there was a company that I didn't get round to calling yesterday who I believe offer the best prospects are heavily recruiting right now, it would be my second choice location wise and career wise (Job one by far the best option if it comes off, right location and excellent cash) but if it gets my foot in the door I`ll give it a whirl

They too are including a 457 visa, relocation package and retraining, the only downside being you're "tied in" with the company (which the 457 does to a point anyway) for a period to allow them to recoup their costs which I can understand

Originally Posted by energysolutions (Post 10157175)

Or I could chuck away a fortune getting my own license via Vetassess and PR Visa, wait around 18 months for the privilege (last time I checked), pay all my own flights and associated relocation costs to arrive with a restricted license and no job (and probably little chance of getting one until I have some experience and an unrestricted license - potential catch 22)

I think I`ll take my chances with my current direction......

Originally Posted by Bermudashorts (Post 10157774)

I tend to think if you can't afford the visa application fee or a flight then you can't afford to move to Australia.

Originally Posted by Pollyana (Post 10157739)

If you can get sponsorship as an electrician, good luck to you, it is very unusual these days.
You need to note though, its not a case of being tied in with the company for a period, you ARE tied to that job, nothing to do with recouping costs. Without that job you have no visa - and unless you can find another sponsor you would have 28 days to leave the country.

Originally Posted by energysolutions (Post 10157858)

So its a "closed shop" unless you're rich?

I can afford the visa, application fee and flights but personally I tend to think I would rather let someone else pick up the costs (which they are offering to do) so I don't have to - I imagine most people would prefer this idea given the option

Originally Posted by Bermudashorts (Post 10157889)

Maybe I am missing the point of your thread then. If somebody else wants to pick up the tab, what exactly were you complaining about in your first post. :confused:

Originally Posted by energysolutions (Post 10157899)

Yep, you are missing the point - I aint complaining about someone else "picking up the tab" - why would I?

My initial post was primarily to highlight how inefficient recruitment companies are/can be

Originally Posted by energysolutions (Post 10157858)

So its a "closed shop" unless you're rich?

I can afford the visa, application fee and flights but personally I tend to think I would rather let someone else pick up the costs (which they are offering to do) so I don't have to - I imagine most people would prefer this idea given the option

Originally Posted by energysolutions (Post 10156904)

It seems that while they are advertising jobs (all of which they are convinced I am a good match for) none of them actually have any clients but are simply hoping to find some who they can pair up a suitable candidate with