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fraser Nov 2nd 2005 11:47 pm

Re: I need tesco
 

Originally Posted by arkon
Tell me about it! I thought food was supposed to be cheap here and it seems to be rising astronomically. When we arrived nearly a year ago the weekly shop for 2 of us was between $120-$140 depending on weather it was a bog roll and dog food week or not. NOW a year latter that same shopping bill is a minimum of $220 and sometimes as high as $280 thats some jump and now I'm having to cut out some items like the half ton of chocolate.

And I'm afraid regardless of all the Australian supermarkets are great posts you hear its a big pile of twaddle. The UK ones are so superior there on another planet. My single biggest gripe is the Australian "one in front" policy which means 1 hour in front!!! My local woolworths, Big W and coles all have 12 or more checkouts with a maximum of 3 ever manned, Sometimes it takes me longer to get out of the shop than it did to do the shopping!


We hadn't been here for 18 months and I couldn't believe the price of everything the first time we went to safeways.

The first time I came here five years ago the food here was really cheap, now the supermarkets are more expensive than in London and the wages no where near as high.

So go to the markets.

Centurion Nov 2nd 2005 11:54 pm

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I really dont know where some people are shopping but frankly the range of foods on sale in Australia is better than the UK in my opinion. Perhaps some people meant to say that some of the brands they are not familiar with is not stocked perhaps ?

Tesco and other large chains managed to drive out of business most local shops in the UK. I wont even go into the ethics of that company which are at best, dubious. At least here in Australia I can still go to my butcher, baker and grocers, be on first name terms and shop the old fashioned really nice way when the mood takes me.

The local markets here are of course fantastic and the availibility of "craft foods" and homemade fares is great.

Not everyone wants prepackaged ready meals. I certainly dont especially when the price of eating out is so cheap. Humm - let me think nuked fake rubbish pretend thai chicken or go to the thai place round the corner and have freshly cooked food. If anyone is that desperate have you not noticed the frozen section brimming with processed foods just waiting to be dinged.

Australia is different and caters for the Australian market which I dont find odd curiously.

If you ask any kid who has never tried coffee to drink it they will all say "yuk". Later in life most people cant function without it. Its an acquired taste and familiarity. Same with Australian foods and the way to shop. If you accept it then you may just find that you like it after a while, in fact you may just prefer it :)

OzTennis Nov 2nd 2005 11:54 pm

Re: I need tesco
 

Originally Posted by rab
Sorry I gotta quote you right back OzTennis

Australian supermarkets HAVE tried ready meals and their clientele didn't want them in sufficient quantities so they don't bother much - apparently it's something to do with eating out more and cheaply in restaurants, being able to get fresher ingredients to do your own cooking, the popularity of barbies, the popularity of many different ethnic takeaways and the generally slightly slower pace of life which means many people aren't as 'time starved' as their Tesco loving counterparts.

Good answer but all we want is the occasional "ready meal", can't say I used them all the time in UK but once a week or fortnight was nice - good value and good quality generally. So I'm correct then, you can't buy ready meals here. Especially Sainsbury's Thai curries. I miss those so much.

Cheap petrol ahem, I got some cheap fuel at Asda last week for over $2.10 a litre which admittedly was cheaper than the garages were offering! Coles and Safeway give 4 cents a litre off at a linked garage if you bill is over a certain figure.

A linked garage is no good to me and to most others here. In UK you get a petrol station on site at many supermarkets. I get the fuel then catch up with the wife inside the store ... easy. So I think I am correct on that one.

Alcohol is sold in a separate section - different country, different laws

Yes was in Hall's Gap, VIC at the weekend and that was the case. In SA you can't get a bottle of wine to have with your tea for love nor money; you have to make a trip to a completely different shop.

Speedy checkouts? It must be a while since you were last in Tesco, Asda or Morrison's. Our last 3 visits to each of these were anything but speedy at the checkout. And so many people pay by plastic these days it adds to your wait.

I was in a number of Tesco stores in March and April this year (also Sainsbury's and Asda). We will have to differ on this one. I think unmanned tills is a huge problem everywhere. I have more than once walked out of supermarkets in SA because of queue length at tills.

Self scan checkouts. You've got me on that one, the supermarkets I go to (in Melbourne when over) didn't have these!

Tesco Horwich had these this year and I think they are spreading widely in UK - totally quick, totally (perceivably) accurate and totally electronic, excellent service and if they are slow you blame yourself!

Go to the Queen Victoria Market in Melbourne or the many farmers markets I have been to in Melbourne and it cures you of wanting supermarket quality produce!

I shop at Willunga Farmers' Market (SA) most Saturday mornings but you have to admit Saturday mornings only come round once a week! In UK many supermarkets open 24 hours. I have not found any 24 hour stores in SA.

All in all then I think we must agree that the supermarkets are inferior here. No-one is comparing fuel schemes, farmers' markets, family barbecues, lifestyle etc, that stuff is irrelevant; the OP asked about supermarkets. All I am saying is that on store service and facilities, opening hours, products and convenience the shops are better back home than here.

Try Mclaren Vale Bi-Lo sometime - I despair of that place and have no substitute within about 10 kms!

Rab (got nothing better to do than argue about bloody shops :) )

Right! :D

I don't disagree that supermarkets have a wider range of goods available on site in the UK. However, I see that as a problem not a thing to laud!

I (and many of my countrymen and women) just don't get the notion that everything has to be on the one site. To me that means that you are narrowing your choice (why buy everything at Tesco??) and it also gives the store a bit more monopolistic power.

I base my experiences on Tesco, Asda and Morrison's, over the border in Carlisle which we visit most Saturday's (not all 3, we change these at frequent intervals and usually go to more than one). You'll just have to take my word for it that you have a long wait - Morrison's is the worst.

I never shop in Bi-Lo but I guess there isn't much choice in McLaren Vale?

Forget the self check out, the smart trolley is on the way! Put the goods in the trolley take them to your car, barcodes scanned, plastic card inserted, account charged.

Australia is ahead with EFTPOS BTW.

Coles I know experimented with ready meals and these are the reasons they gave.

OzTennis :)

A dogs life Nov 2nd 2005 11:59 pm

Re: I need tesco
 

Originally Posted by lawlaw
Thanks, any particular recommendations and are they better or equal value than supermarkets?

Ta

Near the city, the Powerhouse farmers market is held in New Farm, on the 2nd and the 4th Saturday every month. The quality of the produce is far superior to what you get at supermarket. Prices are a bit higher though because most things are organic. But then if you were getting organic meat, fruit and vegetables anyway, the farmers' market is definitely better value and quality.

I don't think supermarkets here are inferior to supermarkets in the UK. The products and brands are different, but that's because we're living in a different country and different culture. I don't particularly miss Tesco or Sainsbury. Coles and Woolworth are fine for regular shopping. But as many have mentioned in the forum, you get better value and quality meat, fruit and veg at the butcher's and fruit barn.

You'll find out once you're here. It's all fun learning a different way of life in a new country.

Cheers,
Mrs JTL

P.S. Oops I'm using ADL's account agian!

Britishaussie Nov 2nd 2005 11:59 pm

Re: I need tesco
 

Originally Posted by Centurion
I really dont know where some people are shopping but frankly the range of foods on sale in Australia is better than the UK in my opinion. Perhaps some people meant to say that some of the brands they are not familiar with is not stocked perhaps ?

Tesco and other large chains managed to drive out of business most local shops in the UK. I wont even go into the ethics of that company which are at best, dubious. At least here in Australia I can still go to my butcher, baker and grocers, be on first name terms and shop the old fashioned really nice way when the mood takes me.

The local markets here are of course fantastic and the availibility of "craft foods" and homemade fares is great.

Not everyone wants prepackaged ready meals. I certainly dont especially when the price of eating out is so cheap. Humm - let me think nuked fake rubbish pretend thai chicken or go to the thai place round the corner and have freshly cooked food. If anyone is that desperate have you not noticed the frozen section brimming with processed foods just waiting to be dinged.

Australia is different and caters for the Australian market which I dont find odd curiously.

If you ask any kid who has never tried coffee to drink it they will all say "yuk". Later in life most people cant function without it. Its an acquired taste and familiarity. Same with Australian foods and the way to shop. If you accept it then you may just find that you like it after a while, in fact you may just prefer it :)

Fantastic post, couldn't have put it better myself. Large UK supermarkets have us all by the b****x, anyone seen the news lately about the farmers making a stand by pouring away all their milk because they are only making a penny in profit while the supermarkets who buy their milk are making up to a pound.

arkon Nov 2nd 2005 11:59 pm

Re: I need tesco
 

Originally Posted by OzTennis
Australia is ahead with EFTPOS BTW.

OzTennis :)

You keep banging on about EFTPOS and I don't see whats so different, I always used to pay with switch back home and found it just if not as easy as EFTPOS, AND I don't have to remember the pin, just put my cross on the dotted line. Also EFTPOS is not any faster than switch or credit card.

lacey21 Nov 3rd 2005 12:00 am

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Thank you for telling me a snag is a sausage.
cheers for that lol
lace x

arkon Nov 3rd 2005 12:04 am

Re: I need tesco
 

Originally Posted by Britishaussie
Fantastic post, couldn't have put it better myself. Large UK supermarkets have us all by the b****x, anyone seen the news lately about the farmers making a stand by pouring away all their milk because they are only making a penny in profit while the supermarkets who buy their milk are making up to a pound.

They might have you all by the b****x but your getting you shopping much cheaper and a much better variety for it. ALDI are out here and there was a documentary on the news about them. Basically they were 50% cheaper than the woolies/coles price fixing monopoly. Just because something is big doesn't mean it is bad. If the farmers are being hard done by its not the supermarkets fault but the consumers, They buy the stuff. The consumer if he really wanted to do something to help the farmers should get the milk delivered like the old days.

Centurion Nov 3rd 2005 12:07 am

Re: I need tesco
 

Originally Posted by arkon
You keep banging on about EFTPOS and I don't see whats so different, I always used to pay with switch back home and found it just if not as easy as EFTPOS, AND I don't have to remember the pin, just put my cross on the dotted line. Also EFTPOS is not any faster than switch or credit card.

No but it was introduced before chip and pin which is still not compulsory in the UK. If someone nicks my cards then they can simply spend an hour practicing my signature and go on a spending spree until I notice and I foot the bill. My pin number however is an entirely different matter and is fraud prevention.

Incidentally the UK tops the list with credit card fraud nowadays....£500m+ per year. I'd rather the protection of having to remember a pin. Its not that hard and you can change all your cards to the same number.

Foster Clan Nov 3rd 2005 12:09 am

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[QUOTE=OzTennis]Right! :D

I (and many of my countrymen and women) just don't get the notion that everything has to be on the one site. To me that means that you are narrowing your choice (why buy everything at Tesco??) and it also gives the store a bit more monopolistic power.

For me it is about convenience. I don't want to drag a toddler and a baby (due any day) around one shop after another - I like the convenience of Asda and being able to get everything under one roof. At one point this wasn't an issue and in a few years time when the kids are bigger it won't be but with a young family it makes a big difference.

Forget the self check out, the smart trolley is on the way! Put the goods in the trolley take them to your car, barcodes scanned, plastic card inserted, account charged.

Smart trolley is on the way to where - can't see it in SA somehow. They don't even have decent trollies in my local supermarket never mind one where I can put a toddler and a baby.

suzimc Nov 3rd 2005 12:20 am

Re: I need tesco
 

Originally Posted by arkon
You keep banging on about EFTPOS and I don't see whats so different, I always used to pay with switch back home and found it just if not as easy as EFTPOS, AND I don't have to remember the pin, just put my cross on the dotted line. Also EFTPOS is not any faster than switch or credit card.

But it is more secure!

Flying Banana Nov 3rd 2005 12:46 am

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3594908.stm


Ultimately, however, there's not likely to be a seismic shift in the balance sheet of British farming until consumer habits change.

"What is clear is that food is too cheap," says John Alliston, head of the agriculture faculty at the Royal Agricultural College.

"We should be spending more."

That may not happen. Market research firm Mintel calculates that two-fifths of consumers would be willing to buy more local produce - but that group is sharply slanted towards the elderly.

Young shoppers, meanwhile, have little interest in provenance. "It is highly unlikely that younger consumers will willingly give up their ability to buy produce all year round," Mintel says.

The only really booming part of the business is ready meals and other convenience food, precisely the area where British farmers are at the strongest disadvantage.






And yet another thing you get at Tescos you cant find at Woolies/Coles.....



























http://static.flickr.com/27/59340390_42ae5c6ec5_o.jpg

:D ;) :D

OzTennis Nov 3rd 2005 1:36 am

Re: I need tesco
 

Originally Posted by arkon
You keep banging on about EFTPOS and I don't see whats so different, I always used to pay with switch back home and found it just if not as easy as EFTPOS, AND I don't have to remember the pin, just put my cross on the dotted line. Also EFTPOS is not any faster than switch or credit card.

Switch has chip and pin now. Sorry to bang on! :D

OzTennis :)

OzTennis Nov 3rd 2005 1:45 am

Re: I need tesco
 

Originally Posted by Flying Banana
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3594908.stm









And yet another thing you get at Tescos you cant find at Woolies/Coles.....



























http://static.flickr.com/27/59340390_42ae5c6ec5_o.jpg

:D ;) :D

An elderly lady was stabbed to death in a Cardiff supermarket last week by another woman over alleged queue jumping. :scared: I hasten to add that the woman was later sectioned under the Mental Health Act but I agree that shopping can often be quite a fraught experience (in both countries).

OzTennis :)

OzTennis Nov 3rd 2005 1:49 am

Re: I need tesco
 

Originally Posted by Britishaussie
Fantastic post, couldn't have put it better myself. Large UK supermarkets have us all by the b****x, anyone seen the news lately about the farmers making a stand by pouring away all their milk because they are only making a penny in profit while the supermarkets who buy their milk are making up to a pound.

They get an average of 17p a litre in 2005, they got 34p a litre 10 years ago. I dare say the cost of inputs has gone up a tad since then!

OzTennis :)


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