the troubadour

A little too overdone perhaps to the point where it should be asked<Does anyone seruosly believe this,or is it all part of the cultural cringe?<

BadgeIsBack

I believe you mate. I only have to look at some of the factory workers on some suburban trains and they don't look right. The train passes through industrial areas.

I really think I move in different circles though sometimes! That's not to say that people I work with don't participate, they just look half-normal.

the troubadour

Have witnessed to an extent and it has been put to me by ex pats living in Thailand that Thais can/are xenophobic to quite a large extent and do seem to believe in a sort of cultural superiority with concerns to being Thai..but i wonder to what degree this is unique even in Asia? Found Cambodians very defensive against outside neighbouring nations...and to a lesser extent the Lao. Wonder in Thailand if you live there you are really welcome..or just tolerated as being one more Farang?
Aussies are i feel getting a little better at taking criticism than years before..although some still feel shafted by it..there is a mindless sense of almost style Bogan nationalism that raises it's head on Australia Day and on display in places like Bali at times ..was about to say that i found it rather innocent..then reflected back a few years ago to Oz Day numerous attacks on police in South Perth by hordes of youths dressed in or carrying Australian colours and realize that more sinister displays could given the right/wrong situation ignite into something else here..given the fuel.

the troubadour

Gather drugs of one type or another would be something a requirement to get one through the day once passing through some of those factory gates though....

BadgeIsBack

You bet. It's actually one of the reasons why I think some people report issues in the Australian workplace. I can only assume that the deal myself and my peers get is not the deal that many other workers get. I only have to talk casually to people back in the UK I know who are in different lines of work to know that some lines of work just have different conditions the like of which I would not recognise now. I say UK because I don't really ask people I know here about their working conditions. They are either self-employed or professionals. I do know a few people who work in admin who complain but knowing them, I don't think they have an issue.

the troubadour

Am of the opinion if not of the self employed professional or trade ranks, that there are numerous issues going on in the work place these days regardless of status,which take a toll on all participants resulting in a smaller or larger extent to somewhat negative outcomes.

Bernieboy

They have a worse crystal problem in Waterford in Ireland,you can buy that stuff everywhere,my god they even export it

autorock

Fair enough then....

I guess drugs are the only loosely comparable factor.

On all other fronts, no one disagrees with me?!?

Consensus then! All my other points have been validated!

Oh, btw, if you HATE it here so much, I hear you can also get flights home.

Jokes aside (and lets face it, this thread was asking for it!!!)

I left Britain and still love it with a passion. I'm here for good now and love it even more. It's better for me and my kids. Hands down.

It's not for everyone (like any place!) I still love Britain but it's no longer for me for a variety of valid reasons.

I live my life with my eyes wide open and so I guess I'm able to see the spades of good in both places.

BadgeIsBack

king kong

i agree a lot is mostly down to personal experiences , i do believe if my family had stayed in country bumbkin dorset then my family wouldnt have been as touched by drugs and violence as what it has done here in perth . But then perth is a bigger city then poole with all the problems associated with bigger citys .so from my perspective perth hasnt been a safer environment and for that very reason my eldest moved to belgium because to him its a less violent society , i am returning to europe on the 20th november and no doubt my youngest will follow .
Of course if it was a case of going to birmingham etc then its a differnt story ofcousre but i dont think the uk is anymore or less violent than australia and they both have identical social problems depending on exctly where you choose to live in either .

king kong

very good ,i think they would have a hard time using that gear though

BadgeIsBack

i agree , you are right .

kaungchiau

I have not lived in Oz for long, so I am not able to say much about what I like or dislike until I have lived here for at least a year.

The flies are a bane. Not so bad in the city, but a real nuisance further inland. They swarm all over you with their annoying sound. Insect repellants don't help. I am still trying to find out why. I grew up near the equator, where flies are common, but they don't swarm over you when you are walking. I can really think of a few occasions when they are prevalent, such as:
a) when my mother put dinner on the table
b) at the fishmarket
c) behind the back of cows and cattles

willamos

Ooooh, we can't even read, can we?! I was talking about the use of the term 'troll' being lazy, cheap and empty. Nothing to do with Australia. So your comment about 'stressed, expensive and crowded' is entirely irrelevant.

In any case, 'stressed, expensive and crowded' depends entirely on where you are and what you want to do. And I would describe Sydney at least as all of those anyway.

willamos

Interesting though how people assume that their positive experiences of Australia (his/her kids could be at the best school in the state for all we know) are universally applicable.