How long before one feels "Australian"
#106
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Re: How long before one feels "Australian"
Thats about 30,000 Australians headcases a year.
#107
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Re: How long before one feels "Australian"
Originally Posted by Superior
Aimed at no one in particular. Delta, Kylie, all of you living here...........
If you want to live here, be a local or piss off.
Same goes for the headcases who left Australia who went to live in that toilet called UK.
If you want to live here, be a local or piss off.
Same goes for the headcases who left Australia who went to live in that toilet called UK.
btw - I'm sure Ceri will join me in wishing you a Happy St Davids Day !
#108
Re: How long before one feels "Australian"
Originally Posted by RichS
If being a local equates to lowering my behavioural and linguistic standards to those which you so eloquently portray then I'll be standing by my George Cross thanks very much all the same.
btw - I'm sure Ceri will join me in wishing you a Happy St Davids Day !
btw - I'm sure Ceri will join me in wishing you a Happy St Davids Day !
At least it's to the point, I wouldn't use the term Lowering ones standards more like shifting.
Yehp have a fosters/VB/or even a coopers for St Davids day, May your leeks stay firm and white
#109
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Re: How long before one feels "Australian"
[QUOTE=RichS]I was asked to comment (about 3 pages back) on why I think Australia is racist. I think I'd be best served directing you to threads on that topic in general, but will say that one mans 'up front aussie attitude' is anothers racism.
My rule of thumb is that if you look at the comment made, imagine you are in England and imagine directing the same comment at a black person substituting the term nigger or coon in the apppropriate place, would they react favourably. I suspect not. In my mind racism is hugely endemic in this society. Not saying the UK is any better, just that to pretend this is some sort of cosmopolitan utopia is on what I've seen a bit short of the mark.
Why imagine yourself in England when commenting about Australia? What you have to realize is that Italians were termed as "daygos" and Greeks as "wogs" in the past but are now assimilated and accepted as Aussies. This is a totally different culture to that which you find in England. We are not as politically correct. Is that a bad thing? I think not! We accept people for what they are not for what their back ground is. We like or dislike them for what they are as people not for their cultural background
My rule of thumb is that if you look at the comment made, imagine you are in England and imagine directing the same comment at a black person substituting the term nigger or coon in the apppropriate place, would they react favourably. I suspect not. In my mind racism is hugely endemic in this society. Not saying the UK is any better, just that to pretend this is some sort of cosmopolitan utopia is on what I've seen a bit short of the mark.
Why imagine yourself in England when commenting about Australia? What you have to realize is that Italians were termed as "daygos" and Greeks as "wogs" in the past but are now assimilated and accepted as Aussies. This is a totally different culture to that which you find in England. We are not as politically correct. Is that a bad thing? I think not! We accept people for what they are not for what their back ground is. We like or dislike them for what they are as people not for their cultural background
#110
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Re: How long before one feels "Australian"
Originally Posted by Gibbo
Why imagine yourself in England when commenting about Australia? What you have to realize is that Italians were termed as "daygos" and Greeks as "wogs" in the past but are now assimilated and accepted as Aussies. This is a totally different culture to that which you find in England. We are not as politically correct. Is that a bad thing? I think not! We accept people for what they are not for what their back ground is. We like or dislike them for what they are as people not for their cultural background
Nowadays there is an Australian/Italian and Australian/Greek culture which is accepted by most but it has not been plain sailing. The Vietnamese and Lebanese are still trying to fight misconceptions about their communities. I'd prefer PC over the hate, abuse and isolation that the cruel words of the so called Politically Incorrect can produce.
#111
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Re: How long before one feels "Australian"
Originally Posted by bondipom
I'd prefer PC over the hate, abuse and isolation that the cruel words of the so called Politically Incorrect can produce.
#112
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Re: How long before one feels "Australian"
Originally Posted by Quinkana
Ta. It's also a two way street - immigrants (as distinct from "guest workers" waiting for another passport) need to make an effort to learn the culture - and most do.
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Re: How long before one feels "Australian"
Originally Posted by Ceri
not true, how many languages do you speak Badge? I don't expect you to understand, most army boys are very brainwashed. They obey orders and not taught to independently think.
Let me tell you about a little Rule in my household when growing up - "ever join up ( Army), don't come back to this house ever again" ( mum's rule, funnily enough her siblings had the same rule in their homes too - all their children went with the Air force, and Navy , and other forces such as fire and police). This is coming from a family who have a long history in the Army, where we have seen it wrecked ties/life first hand.
Perhaps you should take a tip from the ethnic races. Even if they have no political state , and have no plans for returning to their homeland , most of them are very proud of their nationality and identity
PS I do not want your karma Badge.
Let me tell you about a little Rule in my household when growing up - "ever join up ( Army), don't come back to this house ever again" ( mum's rule, funnily enough her siblings had the same rule in their homes too - all their children went with the Air force, and Navy , and other forces such as fire and police). This is coming from a family who have a long history in the Army, where we have seen it wrecked ties/life first hand.
Perhaps you should take a tip from the ethnic races. Even if they have no political state , and have no plans for returning to their homeland , most of them are very proud of their nationality and identity
PS I do not want your karma Badge.
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#114
Re: How long before one feels "Australian"
Originally Posted by Merlot
Agree with this statement but I have really realised how Australian I have become since returning to the UK to live last year. The longer I am here in the UK, the more I feel like I belong in Australia, my husband feels the same.
We love being back but find it hard to relate to the Brits, there seems to be an underlying aggression and inability to have a pleasant chat, not all of course so please don't jump on my case, I realised I felt more relaxed with strangers in Australia.
M
We love being back but find it hard to relate to the Brits, there seems to be an underlying aggression and inability to have a pleasant chat, not all of course so please don't jump on my case, I realised I felt more relaxed with strangers in Australia.
M
#115
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Re: How long before one feels "Australian"
[QUOTE=bondipom]Do you think the Italians and Greeks enjoyed the prejudice, abuse and discrimination the Anglos inflicted on them?
I was not in Australia immediately after the second world war when the largest influx of these nationalities occurred but since arriving here in the mid sixties I have met many of these people and have not heard one complain of their treatment. In fact they have a good laugh about their early days in Australia, if the subject arises. As for the other nationalities you mentioned, my experience, and that is all I can comment on, is that they are accepted or not for the people they are not because of their culture. The only racism it has been my misfortune to encounter was that directed at one of my sons by one of the other nationalities you mentioned. This was in high school. If he had said one syllable of what was said to him to the other party he would have been in all sorts of trouble but although a complaint was made, he was told simply to forget it. I do not believe that Australia is the racist country that some on this site would have people believe.
I was not in Australia immediately after the second world war when the largest influx of these nationalities occurred but since arriving here in the mid sixties I have met many of these people and have not heard one complain of their treatment. In fact they have a good laugh about their early days in Australia, if the subject arises. As for the other nationalities you mentioned, my experience, and that is all I can comment on, is that they are accepted or not for the people they are not because of their culture. The only racism it has been my misfortune to encounter was that directed at one of my sons by one of the other nationalities you mentioned. This was in high school. If he had said one syllable of what was said to him to the other party he would have been in all sorts of trouble but although a complaint was made, he was told simply to forget it. I do not believe that Australia is the racist country that some on this site would have people believe.
#116
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Re: How long before one feels "Australian"
Originally Posted by Quinkana
Ta. It's also a two way street - immigrants (as distinct from "guest workers" waiting for another passport) need to make an effort to learn the culture - and most do.
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