ozzieeagle

Originally from a station on the outskirts of Parkes NSW, which is basically as outback as civilisation goes. Then she moved to Bendigo and was mostly raised there.

Beoz

You responded to this post.

The 80's 30-40 years ago?

None the less, London is still very much working class.

Which was in reference to London.

Beoz

Of course ..... the Black Lion was never a place the locals from Studholme Court or Watling Gardens would drink.

I spent a good 6 months living in Kilburn in the 90's and drinking in West Hampstead so you picked the wrong area to talk more lies about.

the troubadour

Six months in Kilburn and think a full bottler on London? Repeat after me Hampstead is not working class. Kilburn is a bit run down but hardly cheap. Being London, for now anyway, though in decline to times past, one is never too far from 'working class' social housing in both 'traditional areas' and within areas that have been renovated, in the process largely pushing out working class people from those localities. No use ageing about it as I was living there when the process was under way in the late eighties. Poor and rich in the same area has long been living in close quarters of one another. Made London special. Far less in these times though than in the past. Far fewer working class jobs for one thing.


Afraid Bruce and Sheila not doing much better in modern Australia these days. Perhaps you've got something to say about that instead of commenting on far away places with limited knowledge?

Beoz

Yes Kilburn. Then I moved south of the river for many years.

But which are you talking about? Hampstead, West Hampstead, Kilburn, the constituency of Hampsted and Kilburn? You keep shifting depending on the amount council estates it throws up.

the troubadour

No I don't keep on shifting. I spoke about Hampstead. You mentioned Kilburn, not me, while that and West Hampstead are in the same constituency it was Hampstead the location that celebrated in 92 Glenda Jackson's Labour win with considerable delight when I lived there. I suppose you would term those 'luvvies' or Champaign socialists.
What I know is many in that neck of the woods detested Thatcherism and neo liberal policies and didn't like one little bit what they had witnessed over proceeding years. I imagine more in Kilburn, quite possibly voted Tory .....but the thread is not about those times, nor that country.


Poor Bruce and Sheila could do with a bit of a leg up, in these times of woe, much closer to home.

Beoz

Well done the working class of that constituency.

I am sorry to hear that about Perth. It was such a shame to walk through that central mall (what ever its called) and see so many homeless.

Oh the joy's of a one trick pony Perth economy.

the troubadour

Well not exactly. As proved to be the case the working class were sold a lemon in London, which the good burghers of Hampstead could see, if too few in Kilburn could but enough to obviously get Glenda Jackson over the line, to a position she held until bowing out if memory serves me right, as I had long moved on. London could certainly do with more good socialists to right the wrongs committed by neo capitalism, but another story.


Perth is in rather bad shape, worse than they are letting out for rather obvious reasons, but nothing that couldn't have been predicted with the spending of the last Coalition WA government and obvious outcomes, with a too much one trick pony as I have always stated.
WA has the greatest mortgage stress of the states but hardly anything unusual with a history of cycles in booms and crashes. This one likely more severe than previous...


No the shame is not walking past so many homeless folk on the streets, but the fact that there are so many there under such circumstances. We have just come out of perhaps our biggest boom.....more an example of welfare failure and a lack of concern generally in that area.

Beoz

None of the above applies anywhere else in Australia.

Just so you know and don't get caught up in the hog wash.

ozzieeagle

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I've seen plenty in fact heaps of homeless sleeping rough around Central.... Plenty in Melbourne as well. Not just begging but sleeping out.

However I dont think it's anything or really related to the economy more a mental health or drug issue.

Closing down the institutions had a lot more to do with homeless on the streets than anything else.

Beoz

Maybe it's just more noticable in Perth. Or maybe they are parked all over town. Or maybe the Perth boom and bust cycle has left more casualties in Perth.

But I do agree on the mental health part. There is no need to be homeless because of lack of money. Even if you can't work in McDonalds, the government provides enough Newstart and Rent Assistance to provide a roof and meals.

the troubadour

You obviously know little about London, nor read what has been written. The fact being an earlier post I did mention with the exception of West Hampstead. You are obviously attempting to pull out straws as once again knocked out the ring . Hampstead is not West Hampstead nor is it Kilburn. If you ever get to London take a walk in all three locations then tell me what you think. Don't feel to shy coming over to Hampstead, the numerous socialists of the area are usually too refined to inflict pain on body or limb. Probably best, if needing to speak, do so in hushed tones and don't go near politics, nor ask where the nearest McDonalds is....

Although your preference to discuss the Black Lion in a far away city is rather indicative of your loss for words at the plight of Bruce and Sheila living closer to home and doing it increasing tough. Really Black Lion indeed.

Beoz

You mentioned the vote. I told you where it came from. Bit of a silly move on your behalf.

Hampstead to Leederville. No wonder you have such resentment about life.

the troubadour

Well no it is not enough as I have mentioned on previous occasions. While you may be of similar disposition as that ridiculous Liberal MP , whose contribution to parliament has been 'her' ability to be able to live on just under $39 a day, other conservative outfits like Chamber of Commerce and Business Council know darn well it is near impossible if paying rent especially as well.
Just another Robin Hood in reverse tactic used by government . Down grade welfare payments and pensions (note Australians look like soon to ne longest working in the world, with the attempt to push the age of pension to 70) The cutting of education budgets along with one of the lowest pensions in developed world. Meanwhile reward Big Business with tax cuts, bring in ever more foreign students with the carrot of PR and maintain immigration at historically high levels.

What could possibly go wrong?

the troubadour

The silliness remains on your part. I expect the Hampstead burghers would not be the sort that would be found in your company. You see being rich, as many, if not most in that area are, does not mean turning the back on social justice and true Liberal values. Alien stuff but true. Difference between cultural/artistic/creative types I suppose and former barrow boys that , no doubt like yourself, whose only cultural barometer is the making of money and the ostentatious display of it. All rather sad, when life can be so match more......

The only resentment is from you after being constantly slugged around the ring and obviously wobbly on the toes, to come up with stupidly as such. I trust Kilburn didn't traumatise you too much? You do appear to be carrying chips on both shoulders, to write as such.