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Old Mar 3rd 2010, 1:00 am
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Originally Posted by coolshadows
Yeah, you can sell the house whenever you like, but the key fact is that you can not do it without the direct involvement of the bank. It's not like you can sell the house then pay off the loan yourself with the proceeds. The bank gets their money directly without it getting anywhere near you. That's because their interest is directly tied into the house (that bit you don't really OWN yet ).
That's because they hold on to YOUR deed of ownership, the paperwork that proves the owner of the house is the name on the deed, until the loan is paid off.
 
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That's because they hold on to YOUR deed of ownership, the paperwork that proves the owner of the house is the name on the deed, until the loan is paid off.
So the only proof that you OWN the house, someone else has??
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Ok, here's a question.

Some people here think that there is a "housing bubble" that will soon "burst". How exactly will we know that this event is occurring ? how do we quantify it?

Is it a 30% decline in 12 months? A 3% decline over 2 years?


A long time ago, the South Sea bubble burst. That was a proper bubble, a lot of people lost a lot of money.
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Ok, here's a question.

Some people here think that there is a "housing bubble" that will soon "burst". How exactly will we know that this event is occurring ? how do we quantify it?

Is it a 30% decline in 12 months? A 3% decline over 2 years?


A long time ago, the South Sea bubble burst. That was a proper bubble, a lot of people lost a lot of money.
if there is a bubble, doesn't mean it will burst.
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Old Mar 3rd 2010, 2:06 am
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So the only proof that you OWN the house, someone else has??
No. A rates notice is also classed as proof of ownership.
 
Old Mar 3rd 2010, 2:10 am
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Originally Posted by coolshadows
if there is a bubble, doesn't mean it will burst.
This one did....

 
Old Mar 3rd 2010, 2:12 am
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Originally Posted by asprilla
Ok, here's a question.

Some people here think that there is a "housing bubble" that will soon "burst". How exactly will we know that this event is occurring ? how do we quantify it?

Is it a 30% decline in 12 months? A 3% decline over 2 years?


A long time ago, the South Sea bubble burst. That was a proper bubble, a lot of people lost a lot of money.
The problem with spotting a bubble is that you don't know you're in one until after the event, then it becomes obvious.

I'm going for a slow deflating of the bubble (which I believe we're in, rightly or wrongly) rather than a 'burst'. A slow deflating bubble will be less catastrophic for the Australian economy and will not be noticed. But there again, if people start geting scared with small house price falls and word is out that property isn't such a good investment after all then the speed of property falls will increase as fear hits the market. It's difficult to tell how human nature will react.
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No. A rates notice is also classed as proof of ownership.
Doesn't that prove you OWN the LAND?
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Doesn't that prove you OWN the LAND?
Nope. Have a look into the definitions of Land, Real Estate and Real Property.
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So the only proof that you OWN the house, someone else has??
It's the best proof that you own the property, but it's not the only proof available. You can also use any legal documents involved in the purchase, such as correspondence from a solicitor or settlement agent.
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Originally Posted by ABCDiamond
Bullsbrook ?? I had to look that one up - never heard of it !
A population of approx 3,900 people.
In a population sample size that small, small changes will cause huge trend deviations. So that graph would not be unusual on that basis surely ?
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Old Mar 3rd 2010, 3:22 am
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Bullsbrook ?? I had to look that one up - never heard of it !
A population of approx 3,900 people.
In a population sample size that small, small changes will cause huge trend deviations. So that graph would not be unusual on that basis surely ?
You should have seen the boom the month before

 
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and the FULL picture

 
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the way you doctor the look of statistics, are you sure you don't work for Rismark?
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I've seen the house price charts for 2003 - present (with a continual, but moderate increase above inflation, wages etc...), but was wondering how prices had changed before that...

Sourced from ABS:


I'd have to agree that it appears to be a bubble that has shown signs of a gradual deflation. But I'm no expert.
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